Very excited about the Cooper signing

[skinsscalper]

Leonard Davis wasn't a reclamation project, he was signed to a 49 Million dollar contract as a FA. If that's a resurrection project, I'd hate to pay full price.

He was for all intents and purposes a disappointing high round draft pick for the Cardinals (2nd overall) who ended up being an All Pro and went to the Pro Bowl for three consecutive years for us. The word reclamation has literally nothing to do with cost.

 

[lukin2006]

Seems like a good signing, and maybe the potential is there, even if he can just provide solid depth at the guard position ...

It also gives the coaches an opportunity to evaluate him over the remainder of the season to see if he is worth a long-term investment ...

 

[Macnalty]

Have to say I was a major proponent of drafting him and though he hasn't worked out in the league (mainly due to injury I believe) it was good to see that the team was as high on him as I was when he was in the draft. He just didn't fall to us.

Me saying that I'm excited about his signing isn't to suggest that he is going to be all pro tomorrow, but this is low risk high reward. He could really fit in here.

I agree he is no Alex Barron, hope most of you do not remember him.

 

[skinsscalper]

I agree he is no Alex Barron, hope most of you do not remember him.

The only player on the planet that you can trade Barbi Carpenter for and get the raw end of the deal.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Worth kicking the tires but folks need to be realistic; Cooper on his third team in a year. It's quite possible he's not very good.

OR perhaps it means he cannot SAVE an OL And as a Guard with a top 10 pick price tag...people expected a Savior...a Larry Allen. But this would be a major coup if he can look like a Pro Bowler while being surrounded by All Pro's. I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on this forum...but if Collins can play RT....and yes...I think he can...having Cooper play inside would make the best OL in the NFL even better.

 

[conner01]

Have to say I was a major proponent of drafting him and though he hasn't worked out in the league (mainly due to injury I believe) it was good to see that the team was as high on him as I was when he was in the draft. He just didn't fall to us.

Me saying that I'm excited about his signing isn't to suggest that he is going to be all pro tomorrow, but this is low risk high reward. He could really fit in here.

This signing gives us a few weeks to see the guy on the practice field and get a feel for the player
If we like what we see we can sign him for next year, if someone else signs him for big money we get a comp pick
Very smart move to get a few weeks to workout a former first rnd pick

 

[dfense]

Alice just hasn't been the same since 79.

 

[Doc50]

I did a little research and I know the know on Martin in the draft of "best fit" on the OL as a OG/OT was his short arms. I was unaware that they measure less than 33" and I don't like an OT less than 34". I agree, moving a future HOF from his position is a poor decision. Emmit Cleary - I have not been disappointed with as a backup... SMITH - LEARY - FREDBEARD - MARTIN - COLLINS

COLLINS does have the length to play OT, but can he? .... Honestly, I'd like to see all this young talent stick in DAL, Collins, Cooper, Leary, Green, Cleary

I guess we can call him T-Rex, 'cause he's a short-armed beast.

 

[Doc50]

Alice just hasn't been the same since 79.

School's out, man.

 

[Sandyf]

Waiting and hoping that Cooper can get over the mental issues of the injury he had, that is what has held him back. There was a reason he was drafted so high and he does have All-Pro potential. If he can spend the off season with us then with our support staff, he could easily turn the corner. If he does then with Leary almost surely gone in free agency then what about looking at this for our O Line next year --- Smith LT, Cooper LG, Frederick OC, Martin RG, Collins RT, Free and Green swing tackles, Cleary backup OG/OC, and then maybe a draft pick for a OG/OT type in late rounds. That O line would boost arguably the best ever with really 5 1st round choices, don't think that has ever been. Zeke could be the 1st back to get 2500 yards with hardly being touched. Just a thought, hope and prayer.

 

[Satchel89]

Leary doesn't get enough credit by this fanbase. He is the nasty dude on this line, and he can block a Mack truck.
While it's nice to kick the tires on Cooper and he's had some injuries. I never thought he was a "nasty" dude like Leary. I see him being decent depth but he will not be out the other 3 OGs if they re-sign Leary. Where does he play? They won't move Collins to RT, nor will they move Martin there. So that leaves him as what? Just a backup, and who knows if he's better than what we have there now. Maybe those injuries robbed him of some skill.

But at the end of the day there is nothing wrong with kicking the tires on a former first rounder.

I'm with you. I love the way Leary plays and you're right about him playing nasty. I know Collins is going to be a good player but I was happy that Leary got to start again when Collins got hurt. I understand that Cooper might be good for depth but I just don't see him making that much of a difference

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

OR perhaps it means he cannot SAVE an OL And as a Guard with a top 10 pick price tag...people expected a Savior...a Larry Allen. But this would be a major coup if he can look like a Pro Bowler while being surrounded by All Pro's. I know this has been discussed ad nauseam on this forum...but if Collins can play RT....and yes...I think he can...having Cooper play inside would make the best OL in the NFL even better.

Cooper doesn't have a Top 10 price tag.

 

[xwalker]

Leonard Davis wasn't a reclamation project, he was signed to a 49 Million dollar contract as a FA. If that's a resurrection project, I'd hate to pay full price.

He was playing LT in AZ and struggling. The Cowboys put him at RG and he immediately went to his 1st Pro Bowl and 3 Pro Bowls in a row. He was also 2nd team All-Pro his first season in Dallas.

I have no idea why AZ thought he could play LT.

 

[xwalker]

Martin is a lock for the HoF if you keep him at guard and he stays healthy. You don't move him.

Leary is gone, unless he signs a friendly contract, which he won't because someone will overpay him ala Parnell.

Cooper can probably play Center and Guard, and if he can't get right in Dallas, then he's probably not ever going to get there.

We're going to get good look at him, so that's exciting. I think they'd be much more apt to check Collins at Tackle if they had a guy like Cooper flashing at LG

Parnell's contract only averages 6.4M. If the Cowboy can sign Leary for 6.4M per, they should consider doing it.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

Cooper doesn't have a Top 10 price tag.

poor choice of words on my part. My point was...this was a Guard....that a top 10 pick was used on...and a top 10 pick is a huge investment for that position. So "somebody" thought he was special...considering the investment of draft resources.

 

[Kaiser]

He was playing LT in AZ and struggling. The Cowboys put him at RG and he immediately went to his 1st Pro Bowl and 3 Pro Bowls in a row. He was also 2nd team All-Pro his first season in Dallas.

I have no idea why AZ thought he could play LT.

Exactly, Davis was no more a reclamation than signing Brandon Carr or moving La'el Collins to RT would be.

 

[Kaiser]

Parnell's contract only averages 6.4M. If the Cowboy can sign Leary for 6.4M per, they should consider doing it.

Agree with the average for Leary being around 4MM per season. The first year cap hit would likely be a lot less.

 

[gmoney112]

Parnell's contract only averages 6.4M. If the Cowboy can sign Leary for 6.4M per, they should consider doing it.

Hey, I like Leary. But they'd have to be crazy to sign him to that amount when they have Collins who, at worst in his actual second year healthy, will be a little worse.

By the end of the year, people would have forgotten about Leary. Collins is going to be good. I think people forget he was one of the top ranked offensive lineman in the entire country that year. He has All-Pro potential. And that 'mean streak' everyone gives Leary is one of Collins' most talked about attributes. You saw it on display in Seattle too when he ran over Wagner, then he tossed Thomas into the bleachers.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the Pro Bowl next year, in his second fully healthy season. He's that good.

Btw how funny is it that Jerry was so proud of getting Leary, then was mocked a ton for rating him a "3rd rounder", and it turns out he was right?

 

[xwalker]

Hey, I like Leary. But they'd have to be crazy to sign him to that amount when they have Collins who, at worst in his actual second year healthy, will be a little worse.

By the end of the year, people would have forgotten about Leary. Collins is going to be good. I think people forget he was one of the top ranked offensive lineman in the entire country that year. He has All-Pro potential. And that 'mean streak' everyone gives Leary is one of Collins' most talked about attributes. You saw it on display in Seattle too when he ran over Wagner, then he tossed Thomas into the bleachers.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the Pro Bowl next year, in his second fully healthy season. He's that good.

Yes, it would only make sense to re-sign Leary if Collins could play RT.

Personally, I think Collins could play RT. If he can, then moving him there and re-signing Leary would be cheaper than trying to sign an OT in free agency.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

poor choice of words on my part. My point was...this was a Guard....that a top 10 pick was used on...and a top 10 pick is a huge investment for that position. So "somebody" thought he was special...considering the investment of draft resources.

I got what you're saying now. That said, I wouldn't hold my breath, the are an endless number of draft busts that the same could be applied to.

If we were the first team to work with him after his original team (Cardinals) I'd be more hopeful we may have found a reclamation project. But he's now been cut by the Pats and Browns within the past year.