Vick permanent starter *until further notice*/Skins release L.Johnson RB

[JustDezIt]

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[InmanRoshi]

yep he is. If he averages 200-250 YPG and another 50-100 on the ground and 2-3 total TD's that's not great? Please. Based on his past 2 performances his still got it.

Yep, he's still got "it" when he's playing a Packers team in garbage time that didn't prepare or gameplan for him. He's still got "it" when he's playing the worst secondary in the NFL in the Lions. He'll still probably have "it" this week when he plays the second worst secondary in the NFL in the Jaguars. But as soon as he faces a real NFL defense that game plans against him and forces him to play on his weaknesses and exploits his limitations, he'll still be the same old crappy Vick he was with the Falcons, except a step slower.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

All I know is that Kolb looked like a deer in the headlights against GB. Throwing off his back foot, rushing everything, absolutely no poise. I was really looking forward to a year of his struggles.

With Jamaal Jackson gone for the season, they are going to have a lot of trouble with the OL. I think Vick probably gives them the best short-term shot at winning.

I hate that the players asked for this, if that's true. I'd much rather see a rift over who should start than solidarity and belief in the guy.

I didn't see the GB game until he was already hurt, but I saw the same things from Kolb in preseason -- very skittish and lots of throwing off his back foot.

And yeah, it would be weird if the players asked for Vick. The talk all offseason was that the young receivers like Jackson, Maclin, and Celek had been huge Kolb fans.

 

[pjtoadie]

Yep, he's still got "it" when he's playing a Packers team in garbage time that didn't prepare or gameplan for him. He's still got "it" when he's playing the worst secondary in the NFL in the Lions. He'll still probably have "it" this week when he plays the second worst secondary in the NFL in the Jaguars. But as soon as he faces a real NFL defense that game plans against him and forces him to play on his weaknesses and exploits his limitations, he'll still be the same old crappy Vick he was with the Falcons, except a step slower.

 

[Bleu Star]

NFLN just reported the the eagles announced they will Start Vick for the next game.
Also announced that the skins have released Larry Johnson.

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: Adios Kolb! I knew Andy couldn't hold his usual hard line after that performance by Vick.... So hilarious.

 

[InmanRoshi]

The Eagles OL is in tatters and horrendous at the moment. Kolb has a concussion that shows he had every right to feel skittish behind them. Still, most Eagle fans were conceeding that this was a bit of a rebuilding year, so they were ready to take their knocks with Kolb's learning pains. Wait until the wheels fall off the Vick wagon once he gets exposed. They've built a foundation of quicksand under Kolb. I think this is the decision that could get Andy Reid fired in Philly.

 

[Bleu Star]

The Eagles OL is in tatters and horrendous at the moment. Still, most Eagle fans were conceeding that this was a bit of a rebuilding year, so they were ready to take their knocks with Kolb's learning pains. Wait until the wheels fall off the Vick wagon once he gets exposed. They've built a foundation of quicksand under Kolb. I think this is the decision that could get Andy Reid fired in Philly.

Vick is playing for escalators and incentives. He will have an all pro comeback season!!!! Mark my words......

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Yep, he's still got "it" when he's playing a Packers team in garbage time that didn't prepare or gameplan for him. He's still got "it" when he's playing the worst secondary in the NFL in the Lions. He'll still probably have "it" this week when he plays the second worst secondary in the NFL in the Jaguars. But as soon as he faces a real NFL defense that game plans against him and forces him to play on his weaknesses and exploits his limitations, he'll still be the same old crappy Vick he was with the Falcons, except a step slower.

You sound stupid, no offense... Mike Vick won games in ATL virtually without an offensive line or a legit go to WR.

 

[superonyx]

Anyone who thinks Vick wont feel the pressure in Philly to be the man like he did in Atlanta doesnt know Philly very well.

Also people like to bring up how he took Atlanta to a NFC championship game. Well McNabb took the Eagles to 5 NFC Championship games and 1 SuperBowl but he was sent packing and deemed replaceable.

Vick was never a great pocker passer. He was a good improviser.

But he is a fumbler. Look at his stats. He will lay the ball down way too much. I am not the least bit worried about either Kolb or Vick. Vick will force passes into coverage.

It's amazing how little values some fans have. Vick is and always will be a disgusting waste of human life. Dont give me second chance BS. People deserve a second chance when they make a mistake. What he did wasnt a mistake it was a lifestyle choice that he committed again and again for a few years. He would still be doing it today if he didnt get caught. Lets not forget the brutality he inflicted on these innocent animals. After they served his desire for blood he would beat them to death, electrocute them, drown them, slam them into the ground until they were dead. Anyone that can do this to an animal that is just trying to win your love is a disgusting person. That fan base and organization are disgusting as well.

If you dont like to hear this then come on over to my place. I have a few dogs that are getting hungry.:laugh1:

Also lets not forget what Mora said about him. He called him a coach killer.
Look at the coaches that he got fired with his erratic play.
He wasnt great then and he wont be now.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Well, it didn't take long for the "My morals are better than yours" crowd to show up.

 

[superonyx]

Well, it didn't take long for the "My morals are better than yours" crowd to show up.

It actually took 5 pages of replies.

What didnt take long is the "lets try to call out the guy with the morals" crowd to respond.

 

[Bleu Star]

Well, it didn't take long for the "My morals are better than yours" crowd to show up.

Timely.

 

[Zman5]

Anyone who thinks Vick wont feel the pressure in Philly to be the man like he did in Atlanta doesnt know Philly very well.

Also people like to bring up how he took Atlanta to a NFC championship game. Well McNabb took the Eagles to 5 NFC Championship games and 1 SuperBowl but he was sent packing and deemed replaceable.

Vick was never a great pocker passer. He was a good improviser.

But he is a fumbler. Look at his stats. He will lay the ball down way too much. I am not the least bit worried about either Kolb or Vick. Vick will force passes into coverage.

It's amazing how little values some fans have. Vick is and always will be a disgusting waste of human life. Dont give me second chance BS. People deserve a second chance when they make a mistake. What he did wasnt a mistake it was a lifestyle choice that he committed again and again for a few years. He would still be doing it today if he didnt get caught. Lets not forget the brutality he inflicted on these innocent animals. After they served his desire for blood he would beat them to death, electrocute them, drown them, slam them into the ground until they were dead. Anyone that can do this to an animal that is just trying to win your love is a disgusting person. That fan base and organization are disgusting as well.

If you dont like to hear this then come on over to my place. I have a few dogs that are getting hungry.:laugh1:

Also lets not forget what Mora said about him. He called him a coach killer.
Look at the coaches that he got fired with his erratic play.
He wasnt great then and he wont be now.

That was me who said he doesn't have the same pressure. I lived around Philly area for 10 years so I am very familiar with Philly attitude. He doesn't have the same pressure because he is no longer the franchise QB and he is no longer the poster boy of NFL like he was before he went to jail. He is not expected to win games all on his own. He went into the season as the backup QB of a team that was not expected to do much this year. That's a huge difference. And even the dumb Philly fans know the difference.

 

[superonyx]

That was me who said he doesn't have the same pressure. I lived around Philly area for 10 years so I am very familiar with Philly attitude. He doesn't have the same pressure because he is no longer the franchise QB and he is no longer the poster boy of NFL like he was before he went to jail. He is not expected to win games all on his own. He went into the season as the backup QB of a team that was not expected to do much this year. That's a huge difference. And even the dumb Philly fans know the difference.

I have lived in the philly area for 35 years and still live in the Philly area. Try listening to 610WIP online for a few hours and see what expectations the philly fans have of Vick. These fans will destroy their own mothers without remorse. Look how long it took them to turn on Kolb. 30 minutes. They saw him play for 30 minutes and they were ready to send him out.

I understand the media didnt have great expectations of Philly this year. Even some fans didnt. But lets not pretend they are a rebuilding team. They are a younger team not than 5 years ago. But the eagles are not rebuilding. They have a talented enough team to win enough games this year with or without Vick. The Eagles were a playoff team last year. We only played one more game than they did.

But i do see your points. And we will have to see how it plays out. But the fans will turn on him quick. Let him struggle for 1 game and they will be looking for Kolb to come back.

 

[Zman5]

I have lived in the philly area for 35 years and still live in the Philly area. Try listening to 610WIP online for a few hours and see what expectations the philly fans have of Vick. These fans will destroy their own mothers without remorse. Look how long it took them to turn on Kolb. 30 minutes. They saw him play for 30 minutes and they were ready to send him out.

I understand the media didnt have great expectations of Philly this year. Even some fans didnt. But lets not pretend they are a rebuilding team. They are a younger team not than 5 years ago. But the eagles are not rebuilding. They have a talented enough team to win enough games this year with or without Vick. The Eagles were a playoff team last year. We only played one more game than they did.

But i do see your points. And we will have to see how it plays out. But the fans will turn on him quick. Let him struggle for 1 game and they will be looking for Kolb to come back.

I never said Philly was rebuilding. I said they weren't expected to do much this year. Big difference. Fans will always moan and ***** regardless of who is playing. But my main point was that Vick himself will not feel it as much being a backup of team that wasn't expected to do anything vs being a Franchise QB and a main star of the NFL. I'm sure Philly fans will be screaming all over him if he sucks but I doubt he gives a rat's ***. He isn't even sure if he'll be there next year.

 

[CanuckCowboysFan]

Yep, he's still got "it" when he's playing a Packers team in garbage time that didn't prepare or gameplan for him. He's still got "it" when he's playing the worst secondary in the NFL in the Lions. He'll still probably have "it" this week when he plays the second worst secondary in the NFL in the Jaguars. But as soon as he faces a real NFL defense that game plans against him and forces him to play on his weaknesses and exploits his limitations, he'll still be the same old crappy Vick he was with the Falcons, except a step slower.

LOL this post is full of garbage. That crappy QB in Atlanta had no receivers or o line and still managed to get them to the playoffs, better then what Romo has done for this franchise. He's still got 'it'. We'll talk again at the end if the year. Laughable post.

P.s, Don't worry, I own puppies too, but I'm not THAT ignorant.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Wow, there are actually people who think Vick is a good NFL QB.

LOL.

 

[superonyx]

Wow, there are actually people who think Vick is a good NFL QB.

LOL.

Thats because he was good in Madden.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Sounds to me like the locker room changed Andy's mind for him. That was always the risk with bringng Vick in.

 

[LowTech]

Dog Killer