Video: Awesome play by Reeves!

[hmcorp]

The speed of the game may have made it appear as if Reeves grabbed the receiver's arm and swatted at the ball at the same time, but in reality (if you desired to view the replay for yourself) it is that Reeves grabbed first and swatted the ball afterwards. Again, it is clearly shown at the :19 and :15 marks of the video.

The... video... doesn't... lie...

If an NFL referee doesn't have a clear view of the play, I agree, but if the play was challenged and reviewed by instant replay..?

I'll defer to you in continuing any argument if that were the case. Gumbell is an idiot of the highest order, but even he was right after viewing the replay.

well yeah but we dont review. it is what is classically called a bang bang play. and you just dont call those.
if carter had tried to go TO THE BALL and he was HALTED by the love tap by reeves then so be it. but he didnt. he waited on the ball and reeves has a right to the ball. i have seen other CBs do the SAME THING and it was a non call. that means thats how the NFL calls it.

so good non call.

 

[DallasEast]

well yeah but we dont review. it is what is classically called a bang bang play. and you just dont call those.
if carter had tried to go TO THE BALL and he was HALTED by the love tap by reeves then so be it. but he didnt. he waited on the ball and reeves has a right to the ball. i have seen other CBs do the SAME THING and it was a non call. that means thats how the NFL calls it.

so good non call.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1852722&postcount=40

"it is what is classically called a bang bang play. and you just dont call those."



Okay, now you're killing. Quit it.

Seriously. Stop.

 

[hmcorp]

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1852722&postcount=40

"it is what is classically called a bang bang play. and you just dont call those."



Okay, now you're killing. Quit it.

Seriously. Stop.

hahahaha. ok. i am half awake. i had to drive 4 hours after the game. got home aroudn 4 am. im just saying it looked like a typical play to me.

 

[Rampage]

hey eduncan, got a vid of henry's 6th interception of the year?

 

[Hostile]

hahahaha. ok. i am half awake. i had to drive 4 hours after the game. got home aroudn 4 am. im just saying it looked like a typical play to me.

I don't think it is at all. In real time I thought it was a great play by Reeves. He clearly makes contact with the WR before the ball arrives. By definition that is PI.

Yes, he is playing the ball, but contact is still made. PI is subjective. Trust me on this, if a CB for an opposing team got away with the same play people would be up in arms about it.

 

[hmcorp]

I don't think it is at all. In real time I thought it was a great play by Reeves. He clearly makes contact with the WR before the ball arrives. By definition that is PI.

Yes, he is playing the ball, but contact is still made. PI is subjective. Trust me on this, if a CB for an opposing team got away with the same play people would be up in arms about it.

and those people up in arms about it....would be wrong. you just shouldnt call crap like that.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't think it is at all. In real time I thought it was a great play by Reeves. He clearly makes contact with the WR before the ball arrives. By definition that is PI.

Yes, he is playing the ball, but contact is still made. PI is subjective. Trust me on this, if a CB for an opposing team got away with the same play people would be up in arms about it.

Good luck, Hos. Gooooooood luck.

 

[Bleu Star]

wow... to think you took the time out of your life to upload a pass interference penalty and then call it awesome... Don't you feel a little less cerebral? Just a tad?

P. Anthony Henry said to tell you hi.

 

[gbrittain]

If that was not a PI then there is no such thing as PI.

That was text book. We got away with one.

 

[Hostile]

Good luck, Hos. Gooooooood luck.

Yeah, based on his response I wasted my time. Live and learn.

 

[FLcowboy]

Actually, it made up for that blown PI call on Owens that killed a drive in the 1st.

That's right. T.O. was hosed.

 

[eduncan22]

Merry Christmas to everyone!

 

[el_chevo]

I have watched the video several times, and I believe it was a good "no call." I understand some of you are Reeves haters - that's your problem. But, I think the play was so close that it did not warrant a flag.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I guess you've forgetten him getting beaten like a drum when Newman came out of the game for the Steve Smith touchdown...

 

[AdamJT13]

Reeves didn't make any contact until a fraction of a fraction of a second before he knocked the ball away. Judging by my Tivo (30 frames per second), he touched Carter .10 to .17 seconds before touching the ball (three to five frames -- can't tell exactly when his hand hit the arm after reaching around him). If a referee makes that call, he's basically guessing, because there's no way the naked eye can tell whether his left hand interfered with the receiver before his right hand knocked the ball away.

And regardless of whether Reeves touched Carter early, the question is whether he was restricting Carter's ability to make the catch. In other words, if Reeves didn't knock the ball away -- if he merely did the same thing with his left arm but didn't do anything with his right arm --- would Carter have caught the ball? I'd say he would have (unless he dropped it). Carter had both hands up to make the catch, and Reeves' wasn't holding Carter's left arm down. And if Reeves' hand didn't restrict Carter's chance to make the catch, then it's not interference anyway. To quote the rule book, "Laying a hand on a receiver that does not restrict the receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball" is not interference.

Personally, I just think it was too close of a call in both respects to throw the flag.

 

[superpunk]

Was this before or after Newman left the game and Moore Balled out of control by just lobbing a pass in Reeves' general direction?

 

[dallasfan]

Reeves didn't make any contact until a fraction of a fraction of a second before he knocked the ball away. Judging by my Tivo (30 frames per second), he touched Carter .10 to .17 seconds before touching the ball (three to five frames -- can't tell exactly when his hand hit the arm after reaching around him). If a referee makes that call, he's basically guessing, because there's no way the naked eye can tell whether his left hand interfered with the receiver before his right hand knocked the ball away.

And regardless of whether Reeves touched Carter early, the question is whether he was restricting Carter's ability to make the catch. In other words, if Reeves didn't knock the ball away -- if he merely did the same thing with his left arm but didn't do anything with his right arm --- would Carter have caught the ball? I'd say he would have (unless he dropped it). Carter had both hands up to make the catch, and Reeves' wasn't holding Carter's left arm down. And if Reeves' hand didn't restrict Carter's chance to make the catch, then it's not interference anyway. To quote the rule book, "Laying a hand on a receiver that does not restrict the receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball" is not interference.

Personally, I just think it was too close of a call in both respects to throw the flag.

I agree that in real time it would've been tough to call that PI, but after looking at the replay, you have to call that (fortunately PI in non reviewable)

 

[the kid 05]

Yeah, based on his response I wasted my time. Live and learn.

and you thought i was dense at times

 

[el_chevo]

You know, some of you "experts" just can't cut the guy a break. He is a young player that can develop into a quality 3rd CB. Some of you just can't be happy about anything regarding the cowboys. Get a life.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Meh, it could have gone either way and I wouldn't have argued. My beef is that he didn't try to come down with the ball but knocked it away instead.