Video: Awesome play by Reeves!

[aikemirv]

Correct me if I am wrong Adam, but the DB is not allowed to wrap around the Receiver. Reeves left hand is clearly across Carter's back and his hand is on his left arm and he is going over his back.

I will be very surprised if this play doesn't get the Panthers an apology from Mike Pereira (sp?) when the league discusses calls.

I think if the uniforms were switched we'd be talking about the fact he is "all over him." I know I would be. The contact with his left arm has to be before the ball arrives or he could not get all the way around his back and onto his arm. It's easy to say his left arm is not impeded, but pretty hard to prove that. I don't care how strong you are that hand on your arm is a restriction.

I'm sorry but there is no way that if I am the league that I offer an apology for a no call that could not be determined by the naked eye. When you hve to break down slow mo to prove that he hit him before the ball got there there is no reason for an apology.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

we just got one back for the no-call on TO

 

[Boysboy]

we just got one back for the no-call on TO

Or the sloppy, unprepared field conditions the Panthers presented-pt being that this is what the Pats, among many of their other cheating ways, have been accused of doing at Gillette Stadium. Who knows? Those injuries to Owens and Newman likely wouldn't have happened.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Nobody is a bigger homer than I am but even I had to admit that was a blatantly missed call.

With that having been said, I still believe that it's a fair statement to call Reeves a good player.

He's coming a long quite nicely.

 

[Ben_n_austin]

Reeves didn't make any contact until a fraction of a fraction of a second before he knocked the ball away. Judging by my Tivo (30 frames per second), he touched Carter .10 to .17 seconds before touching the ball (three to five frames -- can't tell exactly when his hand hit the arm after reaching around him). If a referee makes that call, he's basically guessing, because there's no way the naked eye can tell whether his left hand interfered with the receiver before his right hand knocked the ball away.

And regardless of whether Reeves touched Carter early, the question is whether he was restricting Carter's ability to make the catch. In other words, if Reeves didn't knock the ball away -- if he merely did the same thing with his left arm but didn't do anything with his right arm --- would Carter have caught the ball? I'd say he would have (unless he dropped it). Carter had both hands up to make the catch, and Reeves' wasn't holding Carter's left arm down. And if Reeves' hand didn't restrict Carter's chance to make the catch, then it's not interference anyway. To quote the rule book, "Laying a hand on a receiver that does not restrict the receiver in an attempt to make a play on the ball" is not interference.

Personally, I just think it was too close of a call in both respects to throw the flag.

You make excellent points.

 

[burmafrd]

That was a good play by reeves. ASadly, he just does not have enough of them.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I think he responded well this year despite all that was asked of him. I like Reeves, much more so as a #3 or #4. Hopefully we can resign him and then pick up a stud in the draft to round out our secondary.

 

[eduncan22]

I think he responded well this year despite all that was asked of him. I like Reeves, much more so as a #3 or #4. Hopefully we can resign him and then pick up a stud in the draft to round out our secondary.

We can only hope...

 

[YosemiteSam]

This is what I'm talking about...

Speed + Technique = Awesome play by Reeves!

Bonus: We get to here "Gumball" gripe about the no call on PI.

Enjoy!

Getting away with PI is about Speed + Technique?

 

[YosemiteSam]

Here's the second part of the rule, where it indicates what is allowed

Way to much to quote.

Reeves clearly influenced the receiver's entire body prior to the ball arriving. (noting that it happen .1 or .2 seconds before hand doesn't change the fact) You can fire out all the rules of the game and display them anyway you want to make it appear a certain way. What you cannot do is interfere with the receiver's ability to catch the ball with contact prior to the ball arriving unless you yourself are making a play for the ball also. (ie, Watkins bumping shoulders a few games ago) Reeves attempt at the ball was not to catch it, but to knock it away.

It's a valid PI that wasn't called. Reeves interfered before the ball arrived. The tape shows the receivers body shift from body to body contact even before the ball enters the frame of the video. Since Reeves was in fact leaping forward to bat the ball down, it cannot even be considered incidental contact.

So:

1. Contact prior to the balls arrival
2. No attempt to catch the ball by Reeves
3. An intentional jump towards the ball which resulted in contact with the receiver.

It's absolutely undeniably pass interference. Any attempt to say otherwise is pure homerism.

 

[ZeroClub]

IMO, in real time it looked like a great play by Reeves.

If you need to analyze a video clip (as if it were the Zapruder film) to determine whether interference did or didn't actually occur, in light of lengthy league rules on the subject -- well, I just put those play into the "close calls that could have gone either way" category -- and move on.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

I cant believe this thread is still alive...

 

[coach316]

I'm gonna chime in on this at the risk of being labeled an edunce supporter or a homer....

When I was watching the game and first saw the play I thought it was PI. Then watching the replay that NFLN showed I wasn't so sure. The reason being at the last second Carter adjusts to the ball and moves into the space occupied by Reeves while he was in the air making a play on the ball.

I tend to agree with Adam on the arm, there was no hindrance of the receiver to make a play on the ball.