VIDEO: Harris Legit Strip of TO with Picture Proof

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If you look closely at the replay, Harris did indeed strip the ball.....but he never had control of the ball before he went out of bounds. You can see the ball still moving around in his hands well after he was pulled out by TO.
 

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DBoys;1804286 said:
This is so hilarious people taking offense to this thread. I have a guy sending threating PM's saying "shut the **** up do you want us to lose?". hahahahah the game is already over.

As if those of us saying it was a strip will some how change the results of the game lol.

As Nav22 already pointed out, Mike reveiwed the play on NFLN and said it was a turnover.

Consider it a make-up call for Chicago......I still to this day do not understand how you can sack the QB on 4th down and the refs run the last 4 seconds off the clock. It was either inexcusable lack of knowledge of the rules or it was intentional attempt to help Chicago since we were in FG range.

A 10 yr old playing Pee Wee Football knows that the clock stops on change of possession, so I am not buying that an NFL OFFICIATING CREW didnt know the rule. That leave us with only 1 logical conclusion.

IT WAS INTENTIONAL GUYS, HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT WAS:mad:
 

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DBoys;1804308 said:
I wonder why "if you don't care" you bother to question why another fan would have a problem reviewing a play. Simple fact is I do not have a problem. The thread was started because I am a football fan and it was an interesting play that sparked a lot of debate in the game chat.



I still fail to see why the past has anything to do with this. We are football guys discussing a football play. If you don't care then stay out of it.

It just seems kinda strange that you are harping on this one play, thats all. The board is just kinda confused why you are posting TV images of the play to prove a point. (Audio would be nice so we can actually hear the whistle, kinda hard to hear the whistle from a frame shot).

Why are you not also posting the "Ware offside BS call", that clearly shows Ware WAS NOT OFFSIDES.

Where is the outrage over that bad call???
 

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underdark;1804524 said:
You have to be an over the top homer to deny it. The Packers got robbed on that call and we got lucky.

You have to be a Cheese-Head homer to deny we got totally screwed on the Ware offside-sack-fumble.

Gave the Pack 3pts right there. If this so-called strip and pick stands, then the Pack still have to drive for points.

The bogus offside call gave the ball back to GB to kick FG. That had alot more impact on the game then this one play did.
 

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PJTHEDOORS;1805256 said:
Come on guys! Michael Jordan PUSHED OFF for the game winning shot in the 1998 finals against the Utah Jazz! You can CLEARLY see it! Jazz got screwed! Just as the Pack should have won against Dallas, the Jazz should have been champs not the Bulls! Refs wanted the Bulls...uh...Cowboys to win!

You are saying that Harris not getting the strip call there cost the Pack the game?

You are saying this one play led to Dallas scoring 37 points?

Wow, that is the biggest homer statement I have ever heard, Did you even watch the game?

WOW:eek:
 

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DBoys;1804003 said:
Oh I know but it blew when Harris had the ball. You can see it between the Harris has posession and Harris right foot down. Right foot down pic is a few frames after and the whistle begins to go to the refs mouth but Harris already has the ball.

It was a bad call in my opinion.

doesn't matter if he got his right foot down, what does that have to do with forward progress being stopped?

And even if that wasn't the case, it is about time TO got a call his way that close to sideline. How many times did the refs burn a good catch by him this year calling him out????

That was close call, but the right one. No one would dispute Harris getting the ball inbounds, and no one has. What was being disputed was forward progress of TO was stopped before the ball was stripped. Plain and simple.
 

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RW Hitman;1805557 said:
doesn't matter if he got his right foot down, what does that have to do with forward progress being stopped?

And even if that wasn't the case, it is about time TO got a call his way that close to sideline. How many times did the refs burn a good catch by him this year calling him out????

That was close call, but the right one. No one would dispute Harris getting the ball inbounds, and no one has. What was being disputed was forward progress of TO was stopped before the ball was stripped. Plain and simple.

Yea, there have been at least 3 or 4 times this year TO was shoved out of bounds after making a great catch.

Every time he was rulled out of bounds, even though replay shows it should have been a force-out.

Even Mke, head of officiating, talked about 1 of the plays and how the ref made a mistake.

Where is the outrage over those bad calls???
 

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gollum;1805227 said:
When I saw the play live, and in slow motion during the game, I thought we got away with a break there. I didn't look to see if Harris was juggling the ball after he got his 2nd foot in bounds or not.

My question is that if the ruling that forward progress was stopped, that means that TO was still in bounds, thus the clock should have continued to run. Does anyone recall if that is what happened up until the point that McCarthy challenged the play? That would clarify if the refs really rulled in that manner or not.

yes, that is what the announcers pointed out saying exactly that, about the clock still running and the whistle was blown while TO was still in bounds calling forward progress as stopped.
 

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and like others have said, one play would not of changed this game. Everyone saw how GB could not stop Dallas' offense. GB would of still had to travel the field for a score, and they surely were not doing that with Favre in there.
 

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In other words...there is something like once the buzzer sounds, crying all you want still won't make it into a river. Like Morrison once said, "This is the End". If you want science instead of entertainment, then become the commissioner of the NFL and change it. Refs are human. To error is human. It is what it is.


Beast_from_East;1805554 said:
You are saying that Harris not getting the strip call there cost the Pack the game?

You are saying this one play led to Dallas scoring 37 points?

Wow, that is the biggest homer statement I have ever heard, Did you even watch the game?

WOW:eek:
 

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jbsg02;1805521 said:
one play wouldn't have changed the outcome. Cowboys win


well it all depends on when that play happens......if it were one of the final plays of the game, it could have been very influential on the outcome......

btw......the one play that took favre out, changed the game drastically......GB played better the rest of the game.
 

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DBoys;1803993 said:
http://files.filefront.com/Harris+Strip+on+TOavi/;9162683;/fileinfo.html

Harris Has Posession:
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Harris Right Foot Down:
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Harris Left Foot Down In Bounds:
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and this matters why exactly? even if it was the wrong call, we lost 3 pts...they got 3 on the opening drive they shouldnt have got

we won the game by 10, what difference does a FG make?

David
 

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Beast_from_East;1805544 said:
It just seems kinda strange that you are harping on this one play, thats all. The board is just kinda confused why you are posting TV images of the play to prove a point. (Audio would be nice so we can actually hear the whistle, kinda hard to hear the whistle from a frame shot).

Why are you not also posting the "Ware offside BS call", that clearly shows Ware WAS NOT OFFSIDES.

Where is the outrage over that bad call???

As I already said it was debated in the game chat. I posted the video in the first post.

We were robbed on the Ware call for sure.
 

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RW Hitman;1805557 said:
doesn't matter if he got his right foot down, what does that have to do with forward progress being stopped?

And even if that wasn't the case, it is about time TO got a call his way that close to sideline. How many times did the refs burn a good catch by him this year calling him out????

That was close call, but the right one. No one would dispute Harris getting the ball inbounds, and no one has. What was being disputed was forward progress of TO was stopped before the ball was stripped. Plain and simple.

The play was already reviewed on NFLN and it was said it was the wrong call. Dismissing the wrong call with other wrong calls is ********.
 

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duel posession goes to receiver. When does Harris have full posession?
 

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dbair1967;1807583 said:
and this matters why exactly? even if it was the wrong call, we lost 3 pts...they got 3 on the opening drive they shouldnt have got

we won the game by 10, what difference does a FG make?

David

Jimmy took my lollipop so I kicked him in the nads. You think your dad would buy that load of crap when you got suspended?

It has nothing to do with the outcome or the consequences from the play. It was debated in the game chat so a bunch of football fans reviewed a football play.

You guys need to take off the homer glasses and quit being so defensive.
 

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DBoys;1807653 said:
The play was already reviewed on NFLN and it was said it was the wrong call. Dismissing the wrong call with other wrong calls is ********.
He's just saying it's a wash. From what I can tell, the only reason one would care about the ruling at this point is to claim a "moral victory." So, recognizing that multiple bad calls negated each other isn't "********" in negating such a claim.

And by the way, Pereira didn't say that it was a bad call. He said the call on the field was correct. The play was stopped for forward progress, so therefore it wasn't a strip. The problem is that the forward progress call might have been made too early. That's debatable as there is no clear answer to whether it was or not.
 

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Bob Sacamano;1807713 said:
won't this thread ever die??

Between you and I I am sure we can tilt it a little bit off track...

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