Video: Is Marty B griping about his role on Cowboys?

[dcfanatic]

thanks.

I was capturing some stuff this morning and I have some stuff from 1990 and came across that shot of babe....So I had to use it.

http://img13.*************/img13/481/babebig.jpg

He looks like Brooking with the uni on.

 

[Four]

I see a lot of jealous groupies in this thread.

 

[Bleu Star]

http://dcfanatic.com/2010/03/08/you-decide-is-marty-b-griping-about-his-role-on-cowboys.aspx

(Thanks to Theebs for the video on this.)

For the last two seasons I have been trying to like Martellus Bennett as a fun loving kid who sometimes sticks his foot in his mouth and doesn't realize ALL of his actions whether on or off the field reflect on the Cowboys organization.

I think it's reasonable to say I go back and forth with him. For a while I like him and he's just silly. Other times he will Tweet something that is so ignorant or tasteless that it makes me wish I didn't see it.

Recently the latter happened. So before I even saw this interview with him I was about ready for the Cowboys to trade him away for some draft value and not think twice about it.

Now after seeing this interview I am all for the trade and I hope it gets done ASAP...

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It would suffice to say that I feel exactly the same way about MartyB. I'm cringing and haven't even watch the video yet. I'm afraid that watching it will destroy the little bit of respect I had for him... Damn. What a waste of talent. You make your opportunities. They're not handed to you on a silver platter... He is where he is right now because that's where he chooses to be... I'm not going to watch the video. I'll take the word of you and theebs. Hopefully they trade him while the value is still reasonable.

 

[Hostile]

FWIW, I know I read it from Hostile.

He can drop in and give his spin.

The rumors about a trade for Bennett have been all over the place. I can tell you this, Jerry was NEVER offered a 1st round pick for him. Jerry himself described the offer as "a player who could contribute immediately and a mid round pick." Someone I trust told me the actual offer was Chris Henry (pre-injury) and a 4th round pick. I don't believe we were ever offered anything else. Maybe we were, but a 1st was never offered. I think if it had been Jerry would have jumped all over it.

 

[Jon88]

The rumors about a trade for Bennett have been all over the place. I can tell you this, Jerry was NEVER offered a 1st round pick for him. Jerry himself described the offer as "a player who could contribute immediately and a mid round pick." Someone I trust told me the actual offer was Chris Henry (pre-injury) and a 4th round pick. I don't believe we were ever offered anything else. Maybe we were, but a 1st was never offered. I think if it had been Jerry would have jumped all over it.

I think Jerry finally wised up. As much as he loves trading for wide receivers, especially when there was an idiot involved in Bennett, he didn't bite.

 

[NeonNinja]

The rumors about a trade for Bennett have been all over the place. I can tell you this, Jerry was NEVER offered a 1st round pick for him. Jerry himself described the offer as "a player who could contribute immediately and a mid round pick." Someone I trust told me the actual offer was Chris Henry (pre-injury) and a 4th round pick. I don't believe we were ever offered anything else. Maybe we were, but a 1st was never offered. I think if it had been Jerry would have jumped all over it.

Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Randy White]

I saw the count at 7, but even worse was that he only caught about 50 percent of the balls thrown at him.

Nope. Not even close.

This are the guys at the bottom of the most dropped passes list in the NFC alone, with Vernon Davis leading the NFC with the most drops with 11:


16 players tied with 5 dropped passes:

16t Miles Austin, Dal
16t Earl Bennett, Chi
16t Michael Clayton, TB
16t Fred Davis, Was
16t DeSean Jackson, Phi
16t Brandon Jacobs, NYG
16t Greg Jennings, GB
16t James Jones, GB
16t LeSean McCoy, Phi
16t Santana Moss, Was
16t Dennis Northcutt, Det
16t Brandon Pettigrew, Det
16t Steve Smith, Car
16t Steve Smith, NYG
16t Roddy White, Atl
16t Kellen Winslow, TB

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=

If you click on that link, guess who's name you're not going to find on that list ?

Ps: Look at who's #2 on the list

 

[Randy White]

is that, at most, Martelleus Bennett had 4 dropped passes in the entire year.. At most/worst case scenario.

Likely number ? Probably either 2 or 3 drops.

And it also shows how easy myths and legends are created without checking for facts.

Just because some sportscaster somewhere said that Benette dropped alot passes, someone else picked up on it, post it on an internet board, and when Bennett dropped another pass in some game ( even though it might have been 5 games in between drops ) it became a " fact ".

The truth of the matter is that Bennett wasn't nearly enough involved in the passing offense as a receiver to drop alot of passes. He was targeted just 34 times in the entire year, barely twice per game. In order for him to " drop alot of passes ", they'd have to be thrown to him first.

 

[big dog cowboy]

a 1st was never offered. I think if it had been Jerry would have jumped all over it.

Of course he would. It amazes me anyone would think we were offered a first and Jerry turned it down. Please!

 

[Randy White]

Of course he would. It amazes me anyone would think we were offered a first and Jerry turned it down. Please!

Another perfect example how myth/legends are form.. I hope I'm reading your sarcasm right, because if I am, you're right on the money.

 

[theebs]

Of course he would. It amazes me anyone would think we were offered a first and Jerry turned it down. Please!

Another perfect example how myth/legends are form.. I hope I'm reading your sarcasm right, because if I am, you're right on the money.

I dont think it is myth or legend. I think we simply turned it down because the team likes martellus bennett and he is a big part of what we do up front and it would be difficult to replace him 5 weeks into the season.

 

[jobberone]

Nope. Not even close.

This are the guys at the bottom of the most dropped passes list in the NFC alone, with Vernon Davis leading the NFC with the most drops with 11:


16 players tied with 5 dropped passes:

16t Miles Austin, Dal
16t Earl Bennett, Chi
16t Michael Clayton, TB
16t Fred Davis, Was
16t DeSean Jackson, Phi
16t Brandon Jacobs, NYG
16t Greg Jennings, GB
16t James Jones, GB
16t LeSean McCoy, Phi
16t Santana Moss, Was
16t Dennis Northcutt, Det
16t Brandon Pettigrew, Det
16t Steve Smith, Car
16t Steve Smith, NYG
16t Roddy White, Atl
16t Kellen Winslow, TB

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?range=NFC&type=Receiving&rank=232&year=

If you click on that link, guess who's name you're not going to find on that list ?

Ps: Look at who's #2 on the list

Interesting. Thanks for the post and link.

 

[Randy White]

I find it hard to believe Jerrah would turned down a #1 draft choice for Bennett. Especially knowing who we have as the 3rd TE.

Remember that Bennett himself was plan B in the 2nd round of that year's draft. Plan A was Sweed and when the Steelers took him, they had to change directions, so it's not as if they are completely attached to him..

 

[theebs]

I find it hard to believe Jerrah would turned down a #1 draft choice for Bennett. Especially knowing who we have as the 3rd TE.

Remember that Bennett himself was plan B in the 2nd round of that year's draft. Plan A was Sweed and when the Steelers took him, they had to change directions, so it's not as if they are completely attached to him..

Thats fine. I just happen to believe what I believe.

Fasano was plan b also in 06, We were all set to take greg jennings and the packers took him one spot in front of us. Norm hitzges had been talking all morning about how his sources with the team said the cowboys loved jennings...

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Thats fine. I just happen to believe what I believe.

Fasano was plan b also in 06, We were all set to take greg jennings and the packers took him one spot in front of us. Norm hitzges had been talking all morning about how his sources with the team said the cowboys loved jennings...

We seem to miss out on alot of guys.

 

[Randy White]

Thats fine. I just happen to believe what I believe.

Fasano was plan b also in 06, We were all set to take greg jennings and the packers took him one spot in front of us. Norm hitzges had been talking all morning about how his sources with the team said the cowboys loved jennings...

I don't doubt that and it furthers my point.. When Jerrah found an opportunity to turn Fasano into a draft pick, he did.

I don't see why he would turn down a #1 pick for Bennett. There's no emotional attachment there, and Jerrah IS known to get emotionally attached to some players.

 

[theebs]

I don't doubt that and it furthers my point.. When Jerrah found an opportunity to turn Fasano into a draft pick, he did.

I don't see why he would turn down a #1 pick for Bennett. There's no emotional attachment there, and Jerrah IS known to get emotionally attached to some players.

the fasano trade is entirely different.

He was evaluated by a new offensive coaching staff
He had two full seasons.
He had a couple of surgeries.
It was the night before the draft, not the 5th week of the season.

and we had the staff and gm who drafted him wanting him.

Either way, like I said its nothing to argue about I believe it was offered and I believe we said no.

 

[Randy White]

Got it..

But, I found this little nugget that might give you some pause about your belief. It's a story about Brandon Marshall, but it contains something about the Bengals that's relevant to our discussion:


As first reported by NFL Insider Adam Schefter, Brandon Marshall was in Seattle on Saturday for a visit. This one will take some time to develop, but it does make sense given that Jedd Fisch -- with whom Marshall has a relationship -- is the O-coordinator in the Emerald City. However, one possible issue here: if the Seahawks do tender an offer sheet to Marshall and the Broncos don't match, Seattle would send the sixth overall pick in the draft to Denver. Is he really worth it for a re-building franchise? See below for one opinion.

So who makes a little more sense? As Schefter tweeted on Sunday, the Bengals are having internal discussions on the matter. Cincy had been one of the teams we'd linked to Marshall for quite some time, but as is widely known, the team despises giving up first-rounders in trade (the team has picked in the first round every year since 1989). Bengals beat writer Joe Reedy tweeted on Sunday that "the rumors on Marshall to the Bengals are mostly a smoke screen" to drive up the price tag. But given the current first-round price tag, the Jets have also re-emerged as a possibility in the buzz we heard last week. There's still a need for a legit No. 1 WR, and Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum is not opposed to pulling off big deals using the No. 29 overall pick. No matter what, it seems like this one might come down to the last few days prior to the draft before anything happens.

Here's Schefter on the possibility of a trade for a lesser pick, and NFC West blogger Mike Sando with a vote against Seattle making the move, even for their second first-rounder

 

[theebs]

Got it..

But, I found this little nugget that might give you some pause about your belief. It's a story about Brandon Marshall, but it contains something about the Bengals that's relevant to our discussion:


As first reported by NFL Insider Adam Schefter, Brandon Marshall was in Seattle on Saturday for a visit. This one will take some time to develop, but it does make sense given that Jedd Fisch -- with whom Marshall has a relationship -- is the O-coordinator in the Emerald City. However, one possible issue here: if the Seahawks do tender an offer sheet to Marshall and the Broncos don't match, Seattle would send the sixth overall pick in the draft to Denver. Is he really worth it for a re-building franchise? See below for one opinion.

So who makes a little more sense? As Schefter tweeted on Sunday, the Bengals are having internal discussions on the matter. Cincy had been one of the teams we'd linked to Marshall for quite some time, but as is widely known, the team despises giving up first-rounders in trade (the team has picked in the first round every year since 1989). Bengals beat writer Joe Reedy tweeted on Sunday that "the rumors on Marshall to the Bengals are mostly a smoke screen" to drive up the price tag. But given the current first-round price tag, the Jets have also re-emerged as a possibility in the buzz we heard last week. There's still a need for a legit No. 1 WR, and Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum is not opposed to pulling off big deals using the No. 29 overall pick. No matter what, it seems like this one might come down to the last few days prior to the draft before anything happens.

Here's Schefter on the possibility of a trade for a lesser pick, and NFC West blogger Mike Sando with a vote against Seattle making the move, even for their second first-rounder

thanks for the link, but it doesnt give me any pause.

The bengals lost both their starting tight ends and were really poor there last year. They knew they were having a good season and needed someone to come in and catch the ball and make a play at that spot.

Most importantly to me, Marvin lewis and his staff were all on the hot seat and sometimes in that scenario you do things out of the ordinary to help yourself in the present time.

 

[dcfanatic]

is that, at most, Martelleus Bennett had 4 dropped passes in the entire year.. At most/worst case scenario.

Likely number ? Probably either 2 or 3 drops.

And it also shows how easy myths and legends are created without checking for facts.

Just because some sportscaster somewhere said that Benette dropped alot passes, someone else picked up on it, post it on an internet board, and when Bennett dropped another pass in some game ( even though it might have been 5 games in between drops ) it became a " fact ".

The truth of the matter is that Bennett wasn't nearly enough involved in the passing offense as a receiver to drop alot of passes. He was targeted just 34 times in the entire year, barely twice per game. In order for him to " drop alot of passes ", they'd have to be thrown to him first.

What's the percentage of drops?

Thank you.

What good QB is going to keep throwing passes to a TE who's wide open and drops passes. Never mind the fact that he's not consistent in his route running or in knowing his assignments.