Video: Mort thinks Cowboys get a quick slot WR

[juck]

Shipley will be a top wr in this league in time. Great hands,tuff,selfless and nice speed. He can also return punts.

 

[Hostile]

It is all nice to have versatility. Eventually at the end of the day, he has to be used however. We have had a hard enough time getting carries for our two backup tailbacks and receptions for second string tight end. Adding a jack-of-all-trades master of none type leads me to wonder what bang for the buck would be received.

If he were more experienced with special teams, I would feel much better about the prospects of adding him. Even Felix Jones was more experienced, yet struggled fielding punts when we tried. There is no assurance McCluster would be any better. Then you are stuck with a second/third round choice who might be limited in what they can contribute.

Gilyard and Ford could grow into being starting WRs eventually. What would McCluster's eventual niche be? He's not going to be a starting running back ever in this league. He might end up being a Metcalf/Gerald McNeil/Reggie Langhorne type.

I am not completely against the idea, I just need to be convinced he not only would be used appropriately, but that he could also contribute enough in a meaningful way to justify the second or third round choice he would likely cost.

Well, I am not sure what I could do to convince you of this. It is funny you mentioned Metcalf because that is exactly who he reminds me of.

I am never opposed to trying things that have a high potential reward. That is where I see McCluster. Is the 2nd round a risk? Of course it is. Only a fool would think otherwise and I am not a fool. We could always hedge our bets by taking a UDFA like Trindon Holiday or Brandon Banks strictly as a KR/PR. Or draft guys like Javier Arenas or Akwasi Uwusu-Ansah. They are primarily CBs as opposed to a RB or WR like McCluster.

The reason I look at a McCluster over them is because of the slot. This guy on a WR screen could be dynamite. He might even do well running the gimmick offense I hate.

I never grouse about going for potential weapons.

 

[Alexander]

Is the 2nd round a risk? Of course it is.

If we had multiple second round choices (like say N.E.) this would be a mimimal risk high reward choice.

 

[JBS]

Golden Tate is the answer for a slot WR who can make big plays and work that gimmic offense.

 

[speedkilz88]

Taylor Price

 

[jobberone]

I haven't seen anyone with the quicks like McCluster has in awhile.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It is all nice to have versatility. Eventually at the end of the day, he has to be used however. We have had a hard enough time getting carries for our two backup tailbacks and receptions for second string tight end. Adding a jack-of-all-trades master of none type leads me to wonder what bang for the buck would be received.

If he were more experienced with special teams, I would feel much better about the prospects of adding him. Even Felix Jones was more experienced, yet struggled fielding punts when we tried. There is no assurance McCluster would be any better. Then you are stuck with a second/third round choice who might be limited in what they can contribute.

Gilyard and Ford could grow into being starting WRs eventually. What would McCluster's eventual niche be? He's not going to be a starting running back ever in this league. He might end up being a Metcalf/Gerald McNeil/Reggie Langhorne type.

I am not completely against the idea, I just need to be convinced he not only would be used appropriately, but that he could also contribute enough in a meaningful way to justify the second or third round choice he would likely cost.

There's evidence that McCluster could become a slot WR. He runs good routes, has good hands, and is smart. He doesn't have to be a RB.

What if he's like Wes Welker? That would be worth a second.

 

[Alexander]

There's evidence that McCluster could become a slot WR. He runs good routes, has good hands, and is smart. He doesn't have to be a RB.

What if he's like Wes Welker? That would be worth a second.

He cannot be like Wes Welker. That honor has now been passed from Amendola to Jordan Shipley.

 

[CATCH17]

Golden Tate is the answer for a slot WR who can make big plays and work that gimmic offense.

But do you spend a 1st rounder on a slot receiver? Or even a 2nd on just a pure slot receiver?

I say no unless the guy in the 2nd is a heck of a return man.


I think Gilyard in the 2nd would be our best option because of overall upside and return potential.

I can't say i've seen enough of McCluster to say he can or can't be a slot receiver / return guy but I just dont have faith in this coaching staff to actually use him and if they do use him I have a feeling it will be obvious to the world he is about to get the rock.

 

[speedkilz88]

Do you use a 2nd round pick on a 5-8 165 rb, possible slot receiver? I say heck no!

 

[SLATEmosphere]

The only issue is that he is not all that experienced in special teams, despite all of these reports that he is a fit there. Mississippi just never used him that way very much. He had a grand total of eight punt returns and nineteen kick returns in four seasons at Ole Miss.

If special teams is the primary concern, then players like Gilyard are far more experienced.

The only reason his number of returns were down because he was already getting alot of touches on offense.

Similiar to what we did with Felix, we took him off KR duties because he was becoming a focal point in our offense.

McCluster has all the tools to be a difference maker on ST.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

He cannot be like Wes Welker. That honor has now been passed from Amendola to Jordan Shipley.

yep people are still crazy about Welker clones.. I just want a guy who can put pressure on a defense and get behind the DB's so there is more room on the field for Romo to work with in passing situations, but when it comes to that Shipley isn't the player, not sure who is in this draft.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

But do you spend a 1st rounder on a slot receiver? Or even a 2nd on just a pure slot receiver?

I say no unless the guy in the 2nd is a heck of a return man.


I think Gilyard in the 2nd would be our best option because of overall upside and return potential.

I can't say i've seen enough of McCluster to say he can or can't be a slot receiver / return guy but I just dont have faith in this coaching staff to actually use him and if they do use him I have a feeling it will be obvious to the world he is about to get the rock.

If he can impact field position and give us some touches on offense then I would say he's well worth the second rounder.

Having a shifty slot guy is nice to have.

 

[JBS]

I am all for Mccluster, that kid is sick..Where is Mccluster projected to go? Will he be available come our pick in the 2nd round?

I would have no issues with trading back with 27 and acquiring additional 2nds or 3rds

 

[mperfection]

I don't know anything about college players, but if any of these guys isn't one hell of a returner as well as a quick slot guy I don't want him.

We need a great return guy who can also contribute to the offense.

Darren Sproles - FIXED!

 

[ZeroClub]

Shipley's age puts me off some. As a rookie, he'll be only about 4 months younger than T-New was as a rookie.

 

[Hostile]

If we had multiple second round choices (like say N.E.) this would be a mimimal risk high reward choice.

I can't argue with that at all. I like the 2nd round of this draft a lot. I like it far better than the 1st round. Iupati or Thomas are really the only guys I like in round 1.

 

[RS12]

Carlton Mitchell South Florida is the guy I like. Has the size and speed to create mismatches.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Ok I get the ST thing that people would like to have some of these guys for. But as far as a speedy slot guy are we just not going to give Kevin any shot to get some extra work there? Why can't he be the speedy slot guy for this offense? The kid seemed pretty quick to me when he got a shot last year, seemed to have really good hands.

I'd hate to draft a guy, just because he's a potential return threat, where we'd have to use him in the slot and then, in return, not give KO any chance to up his touches on this team.

 

[Hostile]

Ok I get the ST thing that people would like to have some of these guys for. But as far as a speedy slot guy are we just not going to give Kevin any shot to get some extra work there? Why can't he be the speedy slot guy for this offense? The kid seemed pretty quick to me when he got a shot last year, seemed to have really good hands.

I'd hate to draft a guy, just because he's a potential return threat, where we'd have to use him in the slot and then, in return, not give KO any chance to up his touches on this team.

I think he is more suited to be out wide.