(Video) Pat Watkins no PI call on Calvin Johnson

[DallasCowpoke]

When a defender comes from behind the receiver and makes contact before the ball arrives, that's PI cut-n-dry.

Watkins came from upfield on Johnson w/o question, and arrived at the spot after Johnson.

The "he was playing the ball" excuse is moronic.

 

[theogt]

When a defender comes from behind the receiver and makes contact before the ball arrives, that's PI cut-n-dry.

No, it's not.

The "he was playing the ball" excuse is moronic.

You may think it's moronic, but my only suggestion is to petition the league to have the rule change, 'cause dem's da rules.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

No, it's not.

You may think it's moronic, but my only suggestion is to petition the league to have the rule change, 'cause dem's da rules.

You can't come from UP FIELD and RUN THROUGH a player who's established a spot on the field. Spin it in any fashion you like, but it was a missed call.

 

[dbair1967]

You can't come from UP FIELD and RUN THROUGH a player who's established a spot on the field. Spin it in any fashion you like, but it was a missed call.

and you can argue all you want, but that wasnt a PI...I'm sure if its one of those calls addressed by that Perirra guy (sp) that he'll agree with the no call, because Watkins did go for the pick

and it certainly wasnt a blatant example of PI, as that blooming idiot Buck cried out for

David

 

[theogt]

You can't come from UP FIELD and RUN THROUGH a player who's established a spot on the field. Spin it in any fashion you like, but it was a missed call.

He didn't "run through" the player. He hit his arms as he was going for the ball. That's 100% legal.

And Calvin had not established a spot on the field. Watkins got their first.

 

[kmd24]

You can't come from UP FIELD and RUN THROUGH a player who's established a spot on the field. Spin it in any fashion you like, but it was a missed call.

At the end of the play, the way Watkins sort of falls forward makes it pretty clear that Johnson hit Watkins in the back, not the other way around. Watkins didn't run through Johnson, he ran to a spot and just happened to (narrowly) beat Johnson there.

Also, if you watch the replay at the end, you'll see that Watkins is running parallel to the 50 yard line and Johnson is running upfield when they make contact. The most Watkins does to come upfield is to duck his shoulder underneath Johnson, to avoid contact and try to intercept the pass. This evidence suggests that Johnson ran into Watkins, not the other way around.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

He didn't "run through" the player. He hit his arms as he was going for the ball. That's 100% legal.

And Calvin had not established a spot on the field. Watkins got their first.

No, sorry, go look again, and pay special attention to the yard lines BOTH players converge from. You just established my point. Watkins came from a point FURTHER AWAY from the qb than the receiver.

If he "hit his arms as he was going for the ball", and "Watkins got their first" please explain how this is possible, when the receiver's between him and the ball?

 

[NextGenBoys]

I think anyone who says that is not pass interference is blinded with a Cowboys bias. That was pass interference. You can go for the ball, but you cant do what Watkins did. He made contact with the receiver before the ball got there. That is pass interference. We got away with one there.

 

[theogt]

No, sorry, go look again, and pay special attention to the yard lines BOTH players converge from. You just established my point. Watkins came from a point FURTHER AWAY from the qb than the receiver.

If he "hit his arms as he was going for the ball", and "Watkins got their first" please explain how this is possible, when the receiver's between him and the ball?

Watkins's body was in the position first, but in getting to the position first, he contacted Johnson's arms. That's completely legal if you're going for the ball.

 

[kmd24]

No, sorry, go look again, and pay special attention to the yard lines BOTH players converge from. You just established my point. Watkins came from a point FURTHER AWAY from the qb than the receiver.

If he "hit his arms as he was going for the ball", and "Watkins got their first" please explain how this is possible, when the receiver's between him and the ball?

Look at Watkins at the end of the live action in the video. He is at the DC 48 1/2 yard line. Then look at him in the replay. He breaks towards the middle of the field at the DC48 yard line. This means he is running essentially parallel to the line of scrimmage.

Johnson made his break at the DL 45 and had to run further (consult Pythagoras for details). That enabled Watkins to get to the spot (around the DC 48 1/2) before Johnson. More importantly, Watkins never came up the field.

 

[kmd24]

He made contact with the receiver before the ball got there. That is pass interference. We got away with one there.

That's not how the rule is written.

 

[Achozen]

When I saw it, I was almost sure Watkins was gonna get flagged. It was pretty blatant IMO.

I bet if a Lions player did that to one of our players, this place would be singing a different tune.

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Watkins's body was in the position first, but in getting to the position first, he contacted Johnson's arms. That's completely legal if you're going for the ball.

Seriously man, are you that blind? WATKINS IS BEHIND JOHNSON.

Go stop and start it from the 0:33 through the 0:36 mark on the first link. You see Johnson stumble as Watkins comes THROUGH HIS RIGHT SHOULDER FROM BEHIND, AS the ball gets there.

AGAIN, explain to me how this magic ball, gets to a player FURTHER away from the point it was released, w/o GOING THROUGH a player who's running on his right hip, obviously closer to that release point?

 

[NextGenBoys]

Seriously man, are you that blind? WATKINS IS BEHIND JOHNSON.

Go stop and start it from the 0:33 through the 0:36 mark on the first link. You see Johnson stumble as Watkins comes THROUGH HIS RIGHT SHOULDER FROM BEHIND, AS the ball gets there.

AGAIN, explain to me how this magic ball, gets to a player FURTHER away from the point it was released, w/o GOING THROUGH a player who's running on his right hip, obviously closer to that release point?

Agreed. We can make all the excuses we want to because he's a Cowboy, but that was pass interference. If it isnt please give me one example, just one, of a similar scenario like that where pass interference wasn't called.

 

[kmd24]

If it isnt please give me one example, just one, of a similar scenario like that where pass interference wasn't called.

Just about any slant that is intercepted.

 

[NextGenBoys]

Just about any slant that is intercepted.

Ok, and Johnson wasnt running a slant, and Watkins didnt intercept the ball did he? No, he hit Johnson causing an incomplete pass. Aikman even said it, Watkins wasnt playing the ball, he was playing the receiver.

 

[DBoys]

Watkins was making a play on the ball and he got there first. If anything it is offensive PI

 

[kmd24]

Ok, and Johnson wasnt running a slant, and Watkins didnt intercept the ball did he?

Irrelevant. It's the same principle. Are you saying that you've never seen a slant broken up where the receiver and DB make contact before the ball arrives?

No, he hit Johnson causing an incomplete pass.

No, Johnson ran into Watkins when Watkins beat him to the spot.

Aikman even said it, Watkins wasnt playing the ball, he was playing the receiver.

Aikman was wrong. The ball hit Watkins in the hands, so it's hard to understand why anyone would think he wasn't playing the ball.

 

[Next_years_Champs]

I think anyone who says that is not pass interference is blinded with a Cowboys bias. That was pass interference. You can go for the ball, but you cant do what Watkins did. He made contact with the receiver before the ball got there. That is pass interference. We got away with one there.

You may think you understand the interference rules but its obvious you don't. Making contact with a receiver before the ball gets there is not in and of itself interference. You are wrong period.

 

[DBoys]

You may think you understand the interference rules but its obvious you don't. Making contact with a receiver before the ball gets there is not in and of itself interference. You are wrong period.