Video Proof... Glenn dropped pass. NO SAFETY

[percyhoward]

Example:

WR makes a catch on the sideline,two feet in. Lands out of bounds and the ball hits the ground and moves.

Its an incomplete pass.

Two feet or not.

"Football move."

 

[bbgun]

Definitive proof that Crayton did not make the catch! After all, the ball's on the ground! *Plonk*

http://img136.*************/img136/2653/captsea11001070247aptoplq0.jpg

 

[eduncan22]

Example:
WR makes a catch. Runs forward two steps. Trips (untouched). The ball touches the ground. The WR gets up and keeps running.

This is exactly what happened, minus the "run forward two steps" part. The fact that he didn't run forward to steps doesn't change that it was a catch. All the player has to do is make a move common to the game of football. Terry did.

Not the same. The ball can touch, but it cannot move.

In Glenn's case, he only has one hand on the ball when it hits the ground. He then picks up the ball and tries to run.

Its a drop.

 

[theogt]

Definitive proof that Crayton did not make the catch! After all, the ball's on the ground! *Plonk*

http://img136.*************/img136/2653/captsea11001070247aptoplq0.jpg

Every now and then you come through with a real gem.

 

[Hostile]

Definitive proof that Crayton did not make the catch! After all, the ball's on the ground! *Plonk*

http://img136.*************/img136/2653/captsea11001070247aptoplq0.jpg

Post of the day.

 

[theogt]

Not the same. The ball can touch, but it cannot move.

In Glenn's case, he only has one hand on the ball when it hits the ground. He then picks up the ball and tries to run.

Its a drop.

Here's how the play happened.

(1) Ball is snapped.

(2) Ball is thrown.

(3) Glenn catches the ball.

(4) Glenn has both feet touch, while maintaining control.

(5) Glenn makes a "football move," while maintaining control.

(6) The ball touches the ground.

In between step 5 and step 6 the catch is completed. I can't make it any more clear. The fact that the ball touched the ground has nothing to do with the catch.

 

[percyhoward]

Definitive proof that Crayton did not make the catch! After all, the ball's on the ground! *Plonk*

http://img136.*************/img136/2653/captsea11001070247aptoplq0.jpg

¡brilliant!

 

[Boyzmamacita]

Example:
WR makes a catch. Runs forward two steps. Trips (untouched). The ball touches the ground. The WR gets up and keeps running.

This is exactly what happened, minus the "run forward two steps" part. The fact that he didn't run forward to steps doesn't change that it was a catch. All the player has to do is make a move common to the game of football. Terry did.

This is what happened:

WR makes a catch. Trips (untouched). The ball touches the ground. The WR gets up and keeps running.

The ball touched the ground after the catch. At the most it was a fumble which was recovered by Glenn.

He never fully secured the ball, never had control. He used the ground to gain control. Incompletion.

 

[bbgun]

Here's how the play happened.

(1) Ball is snapped.

(2) Ball is thrown.

(3) Glenn catches the ball.

(4) Glenn has both feet touch, while maintaining control.

(5) Glenn makes a "football move," while maintaining control.

(6) The ball touches the ground.

In between step 5 and step 6 the catch is completed. I can't make it any more clear. The fact that the ball touched the ground has nothing to do with the catch.

Forget it. He will not concede 3-5.

 

[eduncan22]

Here's how the play happened.

(1) Ball is snapped.

(2) Ball is thrown.

(3) Glenn catches the ball.

(4) Glenn has both feet touch, while maintaining control.

(5) Glenn makes a "football move," while maintaining contorl.

(6) The ball touches the ground.

In between step 5 and step 6 the catch is completed. I can't make it any more clear. The fact that the ball touched the ground has nothing to do with the catch.

I don't believe he has control of the football at anytime. Otherwise it would not have bounced off the ground.

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

He does not, since the ball bounces off the ground and he only has one hand around the ball.


http://i89.***BLOCKED***/albums/k215/eduncan22/GLENNDROPSBALLV.jpg

Its a drop.

 

[theogt]

He never fully secured the ball, never had control. He used the ground to gain control. Incompletion.

I don't believe he has control of the football at anytime. Otherwise it would not have bounced off the ground.

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

He does not, since the ball bounces off the ground and he only has one hand around the ball.

Its a drop.

You guys can't be serious. He has control of the ball when (1) both feet touch, and (2) he makes a football move.

If he loses control after both of those happens, it's a fumble. He had both hands on the ball when both happened.

How could he possibly not have control of the ball when his left palm and right palm are clutching the ball?

 

[Juke99]

So we cant talk about anything that has happened in our past games?

Sooo... how bout them Yankees, I guess?

Since I made the original post...

Here's my feeling.

We stunk the joint out in the 4th quarter. Mostly on defense.

Catch or no catch, we would have figured out a way to lose.

I am upset about Romo dropping the snap but ya know, IMO, Seattle still would have won. So, it took alot of the edge off the loss.

By the time Romo dropped that snap, I was already so disgusted, it hardly mattered.

Fact of the matter is, what happened with Romo was a fluke.

The more telling truth happened on the very next play. The defense, which did a good job against Alexander most of the night, KNOWING the Seahawks were going to run....eight men in the box to stop the run...with a slim chance for a good outcome because we had all three time outs left...CHOKED again and gave up a 20 yard run....got BLOWN UP on the play...Ferguson got buried...Mr ALL PRO Roy Williams ran right past the play...and Bradie James, literally got blocked 7 yards off the play.

Glenn? Catch, no catch? I can't even have the discussion.

This team, specifically the defense, is the NFL's answer to ARod. When ya need a big play, it ain't gonna happen.

Oh, and that's what I think about the Yankees.

 

[percyhoward]

Then there's the question of, if Terry didn't think he caught the ball, why on earth is he trying to pick it up and run with it?

 

[Gibbs II]

I don't believe he has control of the football at anytime. Otherwise it would not have bounced off the ground.

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

He does not, since the ball bounces off the ground and he only has one hand around the ball.


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Its a drop.

Why dont you listen to some of your own people for God's sake!

He had control, tried to juke, stumbled, and used ball to keep himself upright.

And by the way, you can cry bloody murder all you want, but if you are complaining about that, you needed to watch the entire game...say you know when romo dropped the snap?

Give it up

 

[smarta5150]

I don't believe he has control of the football at anytime. Otherwise it would not have bounced off the ground.

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

He does not, since the ball bounces off the ground and he only has one hand around the ball.


http://i89.***BLOCKED***/albums/k215/eduncan22/GLENNDROPSBALLV.jpg

Its a drop.

Good frame.

I dont understand how people still say it was a catch.

His hands arent under the ball and it was juggled all the way down to the turf.

It must be becuase our WR wasnt wearing #81 maybe?

Other guys do the drop the ball.

 

[theogt]

Good frame.

I dont understand how people still say it was a catch.

His hands arent under the ball and it was juggled all the way down to the turf.

It must be becuase our WR wasnt wearing #81 maybe?

Other guys do the drop the ball.

It isn't juggled on the way down. If it were, it wouldn't have been a catch. He has firm control of the ball with both palms on it as he is moving forward.

 

[smarta5150]

As for the people saying its just 1 play and this and that...

Individual plays will be talked about forever so who cares if some of us want to discuss it a couple days later?

If you dont want to talk about it then stop posting.

We get the point. We know who you are and you "dont care" but apparently you do care enough to keep checking the thread and responding.

This is cheesy but dont talk the talk... walk the walk.

Actions speak louder than words...

Etc, etc, etc.

 

[eduncan22]

It isn't juggled on the way down. If it were, it wouldn't have been a catch. He has firm control of the ball with both palms on it as he is moving forward.

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

While he does have both feet down, he does NOT maintain control of the ball throughout the catch, as it bounces off the ground.

 

[smarta5150]

It isn't juggled on the way down. If it were, it wouldn't have been a catch. He has firm control of the ball with both palms on it as he is moving forward.

Because the refs never make a mistake?

That is a big IF you just used there and isnt every credible when you think of past calls by officials.

 

[theogt]

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

While he does have both feet down, he does NOT maintain control of the ball throughout the catch, as it bounces off the ground.

You have to maintain control of the ball while (1) both feet touch the ground (he does) and (2) he makes a football move (he does).

After he's started making the football move, the ball touches the ground. By that time the catch is completed.