Video Proof... Glenn dropped pass. NO SAFETY

[Doomsday101]

BS. I thought it was in incomplete pass when I first saw it, regardless of the outcome. If Glenn ran 98 yards for the TD, I would have said the same thing.

The ironic thing is if this happened, and the Cowboys won the game, I'm almost 100% certain the media would be questioning the legitmacy of the refs because the Cowboys would be on the positive side of the outcome. Just look at idiot Schefter and how he defended the pathetic excuse for reffing in this game. They are a bunch of hypocrites.

Fine in your mind it was a catch and the NFL is just out to get us. I saw the play as well and saw him make a clean catch of the ball. I refuse to be some whinny fan who looks for excuses any time my team loses. Replay looked at it and the call never changed, bottom line they got it right and some do not want to deal with it because it is easier to make lame excuses than to deal with the facts.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Replay did look at the play, he caught the ball cleanly, he then tried to run and slipped then regained balance and was stripped of the ball. Had he made a big run on the play no one here would dispute the catch at all.

That's fine, I was just suggesting that from the view behind the end zone it looks like he is reaching for the ball as it goes to the ground and not actually falling.

Like I said I can't really say for sure either way.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Fine in your mind it was a not a catch and the NFL is just out to get us. I saw the play as well and saw him make a clean catch of the ball. I refuse to be some whinny fan who looks for excuses any time my team loses. Replay looked at it and the call never changed, bottom line they got it right and some do not want to deal with it because it is easier to make lame excuses than to deal with the facts.

Fine in your mind it was a catch and the NFL is just saintly and the reffing is always correct. I saw the play as well and saw him not make a clean catch of the ball. I refuse to be some accepting fan who looks to tow the NFL's company line any time its officiating is horrid. Replay looked at it and the call never changed because they are consistently inconsistent in how they call things. Bottom line is they got it wrong and some do not want to deal with it because it is easier to make lame excuses for horrid officiating than to deal with the facts.

See how easy that was?

 

[Doomsday101]

Fine in your mind it was a catch and the NFL is just saintly and the reffing is always correct. I saw the play as well and saw him not make a clean catch of the ball. I refuse to be some accepting fan who looks to tow the NFL's company line any time its officiating is horrid. Replay looked at it and the call never changed because they are inconsistently ********. Bottom line is they got it wrong and some do not want to deal with it because it is easier to make lame excuses for horrid officiating than to deal with the facts.

Bottom line is your making excuses and they did look at the replay and they got it right. This boo hooing by some of our fans is flat out pathetic, by those who can't handle seeing the team lose a game so they blame everyone else. This ideal that the NFL is out to get us is a joke. Yes and refs do make mistakes however they did not make one here. glenn made a clean catch of the ball and as he is trying to advance he slipped as he got up he was stripped of the ball and that is the plain and simple truth so stop the excuses and deal with it.

 

[Doomsday101]

That's fine, I was just suggesting that from the view behind the end zone it looks like he is reaching for the ball as it goes to the ground and not actually falling.

Like I said I can't really say for sure either way.

He made a clean catch before slipping at that point the ball is on the ground but that is after the fact he did catch the ball and the slip is no different than a so called football move.

 

[DCBoysfan]

It's best to just let it go and move on, I think it was a fumble but thats football.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Bottom line is your making excuses and they did look at the replay and they got it right. This boo hooing by some of our fans is flat out pathetic, by those who can't handle seeing the team lose a game so they blame everyone else. This ideal that the NFL is out to get us is a joke. Yes and refs do make mistakes however they did not make one here. glenn made a clean catch of the ball and as he is trying to advance he slipped as he got up he was stripped of the ball and that is the plain and simple truth so stop the excuses and deal with it.

Bottom line is you're making excuses for horrid officiaiting because they did look at the replay and still didn't get it right. This rationalizing of poor officiating by some of our fans is flat out pathetic, by those who can't handle the team lose a game because of poor officiating, so they blame only the team. This ideal that the NFL is out to get us an invented fantasy, ala "conspiracy hysteria", projected on fans who are only blaming horrid officiating, to dismiss their argument. Yes and refs do make mistakes, and this is an obvious example where one took place. Glenn didn't make a clean catch of the ball and as he is trying to advance he slipped without having full control of the ball and used the ground the leverage its possesion. After this he was stripped of the ball and that is the plain and simple truth so stop the excuses and deal with it.

Once again, I ask, tell me how this is any different than Polamolu's ruled "incomplete interception" in last year's Colts game, and his ball didn't even touch the ground.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Bottom line is your making excuses and they did look at the replay and they got it right. This boo hooing by some of our fans is flat out pathetic, by those who can't handle seeing the team lose a game so they blame everyone else. This ideal that the NFL is out to get us is a joke. Yes and refs do make mistakes however they did not make one here. glenn made a clean catch of the ball and as he is trying to advance he slipped as he got up he was stripped of the ball and that is the plain and simple truth so stop the excuses and deal with it.

Gosh Dooms, not everybody is whining or making excuses, we are just discussing the play. Not everybody is boo hooing, or claiming conspiracy.

Maybe they did get it right, but after watching all of the replays it is not cut and dried.

As a matter of fact, if you do go back and watch the 2nd video in this thread in slow motion, one could ask why he didn't have the ball tucked up against his body if he actually had made the catch, ... why is he using the ball to try to catch himself ? That seems odd.

Seems that if he had posession he would have had the ball against his body with one hand and would be reaching for the ground to catch himself with the other.

We lost for many a number of reasons, not just this play.

But it can be discussed after looking at that replay that he was reaching for the ball out in front of himself because he didn't have full posession.

My suggestion is if you don't want to discuss the play, find a different thread.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

HE NEVER CAUGHT THE COCKA-DOODY BALL!!

 

[Doomsday101]

Bottom line is your making excuses for horrid officiaiting because they did look at the replay and still didn't get it right. This rationalizing of poor officiating by some of our fans is flat out pathetic, by those who can't handle the team lose a game because of poor officiating, so they blame only the team. This ideal that the NFL is out to get us an invented fantasy, ala "conspiracy hysteria", projected on fans who are only blaming horrid officiating to dismiss their argument. Yes and refs do make mistakes, and this is an obvious example where one took place. Glenn didn't make a clean catch of the ball and as he is trying to advance he slipped without having full control of the ball and used the ground the leverage his possesion. After this he was stripped of the ball and that is the plain and simple truth so stop the excuses and deal with it.

Once again, I ask, tell me how this is any different than Polamolu's ruled "incomplete interception" in last year's Colts game.

I'm not a fan of the refs. I relize they have a hard job and anyone who has called a game at any level knows it is a tough job. What I refuse to do is be a whinny fan who can't deal with a loss and looks for excuses because things did not go as I wanted them to go. You want to whine about it be my guest, but the blame lays with this team making mistakes and Glenn's play was a mistake on his part. Hell I thought San Fran fans and joe Gibbs were a bunch of whinners sorry to say we have our own.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Bottom Line....mediocre teams find a way to lose.

 

[SultanOfSix]

I'm not a fan of the refs. I relize they have a hard job and anyone who has called a game at any level knows it is a tough job. What I refuse to do is be a whinny fan who can't deal with a loss and looks for excuses because things did not go as I wanted them to go. You want to whine about it be my guest, but the blame lays with this team making mistakes and Glenn's play was a mistake on his part. Hell I thought San Fran fans and joe Gibbs were a bunch of whinners sorry to say we have our own.

Since when did complaining about horrid officiating become "whining"?

If you get stopped by a cop for "speeding", and you know you weren't speeding, you go to the court, the cop uses the rationalization that he was "pacing you with his eyes from the opposite direction", does the judge tell you to stop your "whining", pay the fine and move on?

No one is blaming the loss on this one play. What they are pointing out is another example of horrid officiating that takes place on a consistent basis in the NFL. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. But, in an age of parity, teams aren't good enough to overcome consistently bad officiating, as well as officiating that appears to be one sided. Seattle got away with three holdings on their 4th quarter scoring drive, yet our line is consistently called for the same thing? Please.

 

[percyhoward]

... why is he using the ball to try to catch himself ? That seems odd.

It seems just as strange to me that he would be trying to advance a dead ball, that he didn't immediately complain when it was ruled a catch and fumble, and that he didn't say anything about it after the game.

 

[eduncan22]

He made a clean catch before slipping at that point the ball is on the ground but that is after the fact he did catch the ball and the slip is no different than a so called football move.

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

He doesn't because he drops the ball on the ground.

That is an incomplete pass.

 

[Doomsday101]

Since when did complaining about horrid officiating become "whining"?

If you get stopped by a cop for "speeding", and you know you weren't speeding, you go to the court, the cop uses the rationalization that he was "pacing you with his eyes from the opposite direction", does the judge tell you to stop your "whining", pay the fine and move on?

No one is blaming the loss on this one play. What they are pointing out is another example of horrid officiating that takes place on a consistent basis in the NFL. If you don't agree with it, that's fine. But, in an age of parity, teams aren't good enough to overcome consistently bad officiating, as well as officiating that appears to be one sided. Seattle got away with three holdings on their 4th quarter scoring drive, yet our line is consistently called for the same thing? Please.

One sided? this is so lame the officals do make questionable calls at time but overall they do a pretty decent job. Replay looked at the play as well and to this point Parcells is not out there whinning nor did Glenn complain about the call but you have it in your head that somehow they are out to get us. Dallas debated the TD being called and the replay over turned it so in the end they did get in right.

 

[WV Cowboy]

It seems just as strange to me that he would be trying to advance a dead ball, that he didn't immediately complain when it was ruled a catch and fumble, and that he didn't say anything about it after the game.

Are you saying that you see a lot of receivers say, "I didn't really catch that ball." when they get away with a reception that was not a catch ?

 

[Doomsday101]

You have to maintain control of the ball throughout the catch.

He doesn't because he drops the ball on the ground.

That is an incomplete pass.

He turned to Romo the ball came in chest high he caught the ball turned and slipped on the play. At that point the ball does touch the ground but only after the catch is made. As he gets up the ball is stripped. It was a catch, it was a fumble and it was a safety. You guys can keep on with this all you want but the only things the team disputed was the TD and replay corrected that.

 

[eduncan22]

He turned to Romo the ball came in chest high he caught the ball turned and slipped on the play. At that point the ball does touch the ground but only after the catch is made. As he gets up the ball is stripped. It was a catch, it was a fumble and it was a safety. You guys can keep on with this all you want but the only things the team disputed was the TD and replay corrected that.

The problem with the catch is that he never controls the ball.

While he does have two feet down, he doesn't control the ball.

If he had demonstrated control of the football, it's a clean catch.

He does pick it up. But it hits the ground [he only has one hand on the ball, also.]

 

[percyhoward]

Are you saying that you see a lot of receivers say, "I didn't really catch that ball." when they get away with a reception that was not a catch ?

No I'm not.

Are you saying that you see a lot of players say, "That was a good call you just made against me," when an official has just made the wrong call?

Not that I thought you were.

 

[WV Cowboy]

He turned to Romo the ball came in chest high he caught the ball turned and slipped on the play. At that point the ball does touch the ground but only after the catch is made. As he gets up the ball is stripped. It was a catch, it was a fumble and it was a safety. You guys can keep on with this all you want but the only things the team disputed was the TD and replay corrected that.

Why you continue to participate in a thread you don't even believe in I don't know, but ...

Like I said, I am not making a stand either way, but have you watched the 2nd video in this thread in slow motion ?

It looks like he did not slip, but is following the ball to the ground to regain posession of it. He pops up so quick it looks like he hadn't lost balance or anything, but that he only went down to get the ball.

If he had already caught it, (1)why does he not have it against his chest, or (2)why would he use the ball to catch his "slip?, instead of using one hand to hold the ball, and one hand to catch himself."

Players don't usually try to regain balance by reaching out with both hands while holding the ball to catch themselves.