Video Proof... Glenn dropped pass. NO SAFETY

[SultanOfSix]

Yeah, I'm still waiting on an answer to the question on how this play is different from Polamalu's "incomplete interception" last year in the Colt's game besides the fact that in the latter case, the ball didn't even touch the ground!

 

[Established1971]

haha how is that not a catch? he catches it, holds the ball slips, he doesnt want to drop the ball as he slips. he stops himself with the ball on the turf, but he still has controll. he then gets up and makes a move going forward(this is where its a completion). the defensive player hits the ball as glenn is making his progress forward. FUMBLE

because he used the ground to get control, its the ground that actually is what he uses to get a solid grip on the ball, until then (in that 1/2 second) he does not have a grip on the ball

what he does after it hits the ground is irrelevant

 

[eduncan22]

because he used the ground to get control, its the ground that actually is what he uses to get a solid grip on the ball, until then (in that 1/2 second) he does not have a grip on the ball

what he does after it hits the ground is irrelevant

Exactly.

Incomplete pass.

 

[Rampage]

Exactly.

Incomplete pass.

get over it. terry lost us the game

 

[bbgun]

I'm not a fan of the refs. I realize they have a hard job and anyone who has called a game at any level knows it is a tough job. What I refuse to do is be a whinny fan who can't deal with a loss and looks for excuses because things did not go as I wanted them to go. You want to whine about it be my guest, but the blame lays with this team making mistakes and Glenn's play was a mistake on his part. Hell I thought San Fran fans and joe Gibbs were a bunch of whiners sorry to say we have our own.

Arguing with Sultan is like arguing with a single-cell organism. I've had more intelligent exchanges with people on respirators. He's a myopic, pro-Cowboy zealot who can't abide the notion that his team is flawed or that the refs did their job. In other words, a blind homer and Dallas' version of the "Ugly American." And now he's antagonizing the rest of you over this Glenn kerfuffle. Like I said, a loser.

 

[eduncan22]

Arguing with Sultan is like arguing with a single-cell organism. I've had more intelligent exchanges with people on respirators. He's a myopic, pro-Cowboy zealot who can't abide the notion that his team is flawed or that the refs did their job. In other words, a blind homer and Dallas' version of the "Ugly American." And now he's antagonizing the rest of you over this Glenn kerfuffle. Like I said, a loser.

For a member with over 4,000 posts, you are extremely unprofessional.

I'll respect your point of view.

Please show me the same respect.

 

[iceberg]

Arguing with Sultan is like arguing with a single-cell organism. I've had more intelligent exchanges with people on respirators. He's a myopic, pro-Cowboy zealot who can't abide the notion that his team is flawed or that the refs did their job. In other words, a blind homer and Dallas' version of the "Ugly American." And now he's antagonizing the rest of you over this Glenn kerfuffle. Like I said, a loser.

wow - for someone who goes off and whines they're being called names on the board, you sure do fire off your own share.

 

[superpunk]

This thread sucks. Big time. And it's getting worse.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

oh i grant you it's worse than something like "pelletboy" - but if you don't want to be called names, don't call people names and you have a much stronger case to stand on.

as it stands in the last ~3 threads from you, i've seen:
loser
idiot
stupid
rapist

you whine about pelletboy and dive a lot deeper on your own. that's the hypocracy that just gets to me. if you'd quit acting 12 people would likely in time quit treating you as such.

I find it funny that pawr bbgun feels persecuted, yet he feels the need to keep coming on the board

don't believe his 'plight', he's just trolling

btw, noone called him a racist, just accused him of being as ignorant as one

 

[iceberg]

I find it funny that pawr bbgun feels persecuted, yet he feels the need to keep coming on the board

don't believe his 'plight', he's just trolling

btw, noone called him a racist, just accused him of being as ignorant as one

he gets what he dishes out, he just can't take it so he needs to quit dishing it out. just that people like that seldom do.

oh well - after the tagline mods and his rapist commentary - he may not be long for the cbz world anyway.

 

[eduncan22]

Lets talk football.


It's unfortunate that this play was missed.

Although the play was reviewed, its clear that the officials did not look at Glenn's reception.

Most of the attention seems to have been placed on the Touchdown/endzone recovery.

 

[sonnyboy]

Can someone please explain this mentality:

"We lost, get over it, stop whinning about calls a be a man."

Unfortunately games aren't always won by the team that played better, or who deserved to win on merrit.

I'll be the first to admitt we should have won this game by 3 scores, as short handed as Seattle was.

However, I can't see how any objective viewer of this game would not conclude that we got the shaft. I'm not saying this is some silly conspiracy. Just bad luck and a little hometown officiating.

As you may remember our D came out firing. Shut Seattle down on three consecutive drives to start the game.
What does our D get for it's trouble....... THREE YES THREE defensive holding callls on two consecutive Seattle scoring drives.
All three of these penalities occurred on a 3rd down stop and continued the drives. All three of these calls were wrong. They weren't close or boderline. They were incorrect.
When you get Al Micheals taking the Cowboys side, you know you're getting screwed!
These three penalties gave seatlle thier first 10 points and kept them in the game. Without these penalities Dallas would have had command of the game in the second half.

Glenn's drop was a drop. 10-15 years ago it was a catch, however the NFL changed the rule on this. Based on my interpretation of this rule I thought this was a drop the second it hit the ground. Wasn't even concerned with the fumble because I was sure it was a drop. I thought it would be ruled a drop on the field and if not, certainly reversed in the booth.

Glenn caught the ball and in one continuos motion brought the ball to the ground. Some of you may remember this as the Cris Carter Rule.
This was put in after a controversial catch of his.

My problem with the Newman call was that the pass was not catchable. The correct call should have been a five yard DEFENSIVE holding since he did grab his arm. HOW IRONIC IS THAT!

I've seen a few muffed FG/Extra point snaps in my day. Most of the time it's due to a bad snap. On a rare occassion you see a holder muff a good snap.
I can honestly say I've never seen a holder catch a good snap clean, and then have the ball simply slip out of his hand.
It's sureal. I've never seen that happen and I've never seen a ball that shinney. Ya, I have a problem with that ball. That's right, I'm taking Romo off the hook somewhat. I think he was a sad victim of some very very cleaver gamesmanship.

 

[iceberg]

Lets talk football.


It's unfortunate that this play was missed.

Although the play was reviewed, its clear that the officials did not look at Glenn's reception.

Most of the attention seems to have been placed on the Touchdown/endzone recovery.

you're right - it's a conspiracy and we need to petition the NFL front office and demand head roll and replay the game.

not gonna happen? no. it's not.

so why keep at this? what is your end goal if not to whine more?

 

[superpunk]

what is your end goal if not to whine more?

Trolls measure success by the length of the threads they create and the amount of discord they sow. Keeping this thread going is vindication.

 

[percyhoward]

Every receiver in the league tries to make non-catches look like catches all the time. Even if he thought he didn't catch it, most receivers try to make it look like they did.

Right up until they fumble the ball and the opposing team recovers, yes. Then it becomes, "I never had it. Coach, challenge that. I never had control of the ball." Glenn didn't do that.

Put it this way, have you ever seen a receiver fumble the ball away, then it gets ruled incomplete, and he says, "No, I caught that ball and fumbled it. Their ball!"

 

[superpunk]

Right up until they fumble the ball and the opposing team recovers, yes. Then it becomes, "I never had it. Coach, challenge that. I never had control of the ball." Glenn didn't do that.

Put it this way, have you ever seen a receiver fumble the ball away, then it gets ruled incomplete, and he says, "No, I caught that ball and fumbled it. Their ball!"

Have you ever seen Glenn speak out about anything? Did they show him on the sideline while they were showing 8 billion angles and going to commercial?

These questions are pertinent if we're going to read minds.

 

[percyhoward]

Have you ever seen Glenn speak out about anything? Did they show him on the sideline while they were showing 8 billion angles and going to commercial?

If he didn't catch it, then either Glenn is so dense that he didn't notify Parcells that it was actually an incompletion, or Glenn did tell Parcells, and Parcells is so dense that he ignored him.

 

[eduncan22]

If he didn't catch it, then either Glenn is so dense that he didn't notify Parcells that it was actually an incompletion, or Glenn did tell Parcells, and Parcells is so dense that he ignored him.

You play until the whistle.


This was a horrible play and it should have been ruled an incomplete pass.

The video evidence clearly shows the ball hitting the ground.

 

[percyhoward]

You play until the whistle.

Which has nothing to do with what I said.

Why, if it wasn't a catch, didn't we challenge that part of it?

 

[Kilyin]

Which has nothing to do with what I said.

Why, if it wasn't a catch, didn't we challenge that part of it?

Same reason we didn't challenge the Julius Jones safety against the Skins. Parcells can't see the whole field from the sidelines, whoever gives him the word to challenge screwed up alot this year.