Video sums up Dak/Wentz debate

[Corso]

Whoa... This is so true.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Look at his passer rating

meaningless.....well in a way..... given Dak is 20 something in passing yards and pass attempts, etc...and breaking down his game and passes... 22% of which were to Zeke as screen passes. again explains that Das is a safe QB. make no mistake QB. minimize his mistakes. don't take chances. make a few plays here and there....we don't need a good passer in this offense to win. we have Zeke. And Das does his part....play it safe. no Ints.... make a few play here and there....drive the bus.....the only thing he has to kind of learn and control is his fumbles that are becoming worrisome. it cost us one game already. could have easily cost us another if not for the defense.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I could be wrong, but over the last 5 games, Dak's passer rating would be in the Top 7. It's like 105 since we acquired Cooper and crap canned our OL coach.

passer ratings doesn't take into account passing yards and passing attempts. its geared towards Abs that play it safe, not those who pass a lot and make plays. which as I explained explains Dak as being the bus driver.....

plus cooper has helped him, of course. cooper has been great in getting separations, sometimes ridiculous ones which helps Dak who is not good in anticipating throws and has to have a wide open WR to make throws.....

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Dak is a top 7 qb since he got a wr core

and still 2o something in passing and pass attempts..... its like getting a high average going to an easy school. not all averages are the same....

 

[Willfreedom909]

meaningless.....well in a way..... given Dak is 20 something in passing yards and pass attempts, etc...and breaking down his game and passes... 22% of which were to Zeke as screen passes. again explains that Das is a safe QB. make no mistake QB. minimize his mistakes. don't take chances. make a few plays here and there....we don't need a good passer in this offense to win. we have Zeke. And Das does his part....play it safe. no Ints.... make a few play here and there....drive the bus.....the only thing he has to kind of learn and control is his fumbles that are becoming worrisome. it cost us one game already. could have easily cost us another if not for the defense.

Dak throws almost 20% less attempts than most qbs since the cowboys are a run first offense.

He averages 30ATT compared to 35-36 league average.

Yet he’s averaging 250 yards a game. If you added 20% to that that he’d be averaging 300yds a game. Hardly a bus driver.

 

[Willfreedom909]

Dak throws almost 20% less attempts than most qbs since the cowboys are a run first offense.

He averages 30ATT compared to 35-36 league average.

Yet he’s averaging 250 yards a game since he got a real WR core. If he threw 36ATT A GAME he’d be averaging 300yds a game. Hardly a bus driver.

 

[Willfreedom909]

and still 2o something in passing and pass attempts..... its like getting a high average going to an easy school. not all averages are the same....

He doesn’t pass that much because we run more. If you look at his stats where he throws over 30 times his passer rating is 110. But that doesn’t eat up the clock.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Have you ever considered that there are many QBs that could do much better at executing the offense? Scoring 13 points was an embarrassment considering the opportunities in that game. Dak is comparable to Blake Bortles. I have higher expectations for the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys. At your age, you should expect more too. You have seen the Cowboys when they was winners every year.

Dak still managed to put up better numbers than Wentz did against the Saints. Iggles only got 7 points and where was Wentz to score more points or put the team on his back and make the game closer, if he's supposed to be much more of a franchise QB than Dak is.

 

[Roadtrip635]

meaningless.....well in a way..... given Dak is 20 something in passing yards and pass attempts, etc...and breaking down his game and passes... 22% of which were to Zeke as screen passes. again explains that Das is a safe QB. make no mistake QB. minimize his mistakes. don't take chances. make a few plays here and there....we don't need a good passer in this offense to win. we have Zeke. And Das does his part....play it safe. no Ints.... make a few play here and there....drive the bus.....the only thing he has to kind of learn and control is his fumbles that are becoming worrisome. it cost us one game already. could have easily cost us another if not for the defense.

Wentz averages 7.7 air yards/attempt and Dak averages 7.6 air yards/attempt, not much of a difference. The truth is most NFL fans think their team doesn't pass down field enough. Brees is only at 7.2 air yards/attempt, their whole passing game is predicated on short passes, especially to RBs. Brees longest completed pass in air yards this season is almost identical to Dak's, 45.3yds vs 45.5. I'm not trying to say that Dak is Bree's equal or even close in ability, but sometimes fans get too caught up in raw numbers. While I would like to see more deep passes, it's more important to be efficient in the passing game. We have to be able to hit the deep balls when they're there, but it's the short passes that move the sticks and keep drives alive.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Have you ever considered that there are many QBs that could do much better at executing the offense? Scoring 13 points was an embarrassment considering the opportunities in that game. Dak is comparable to Blake Bortles. I have higher expectations for the starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys. At your age, you should expect more too. You have seen the Cowboys when they was winners every year.

Nope. Dak is plenty of good, highly durable, still learning and a dual threat. Exactly the type of QB needed to run this Offense, and the results are proving it. Glad the Cowboys see this. Get used to it because Dak is going to be here to stay for a very long time.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Dak still managed to put up better numbers than Wentz did against the Saints. Iggles only got 7 points and where was Wentz to score more points or put the team on his back and make the game closer, if he's supposed to be much more of a franchise QB than Dak is.

BOOM! That should silence the Wince lovers, but it won't.

 

[jnday]

Dak still managed to put up better numbers than Wentz did against the Saints. Iggles only got 7 points and where was Wentz to score more points or put the team on his back and make the game closer, if he's supposed to be much more of a franchise QB than Dak is.

Wentz didn’t have a defense to win the game for him. Wentz will be an elite WB in s couple of years.

 

[jnday]

Nope. Dak is plenty of good, highly durable, still learning and a dual threat. Exactly the type of QB needed to run this Offense, and the results are proving it. Glad the Cowboys see this. Get used to it because Dak is going to be here to stay for a very long time.

Yes, a lot of wasted years and wasted careers for the Cowboys.

 

[America's Cowboy]

If Dallas could sign Dak for under 20 million a year - like around the 18 million mark. He could be the right guy in Dallas. I do think these teams paying 25 million + a year for a QB struggle to put a good team on the field. Hopefully Dak understands that and doesnt ask for the sky. If he does ... then they need to let Dak walk. He isnt the type of QB that could carry a team.

I called it the other day. Dak should settle for no more than $18 million/season. Totally agree with everything you said. Dak must realize that accepting lesser actually helps him keep weapons around him. He grew up a Cowboys fan, so hopefully he works with Jerry, Stephen and the front office.

As for Dak not being able to carry a team? Well, honestly, no QB can carry a team if they don't have good blockers in front of him, along with enough weapons around him.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Yes, a lot of wasted years and wasted careers for the Cowboys.

Just like Romo and his bloviated contract, right?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Wentz didn’t have a defense to win the game for him. Wentz will be an elite WB in s couple of years.

But, IF Wentz is a franchise "put a team on his back" QB, that some are building him up to be, then that means he should be able to put a game on his shoulder's, when one side of the ball isn't playing well or when the offensive supporting cast around him is average. Because to me that is what defines a true QB, who can "carry a team on his back." Some assume that Dak wouldn't be able to keep up with a QB, who happens to end up scoring a bunch of points against the Cowboys in a particular game. When Wentz couldn't keep up with Brees.

Wentz did nothing to extend drives on offense or score more points, to help out his struggling Defense, by keeping the ball away from Brees and by scoring points. And actually ended up giving the ball to Brees for 3 more times, by throwing three INTs. Dak wasn't perfect in the Saints game, but actually had the chance to put the game away, if he connected with Gallup and he did his part of extend drives, to give the Cowboys win over the TOP and keep the ball away from Brees.

If Wentz is truly a franchise QB, who is going to be the next Brady, then he shouldn't need everything perfect around him.

 

[Aviano90]

It's insulting to Wentz to compare him to Dak.

We should stick with comparing him to Romo and quit insulting great QBs by comparing Romo to them.

 

[rags747]

I stopped listening after Whitlock cited Dak’s 14 Pass TD without including his 5 Rush TD.

That’s 19 total for Dak, not 14. Nice try, Fat Man With An Agenda.

Wentz is on 18 total.

Dak’s also 7-5 while Wentz is 5-5 this season.

14 td's is pretty pitiful for a 3rd year starter especially when comparing to a first yr starter who has 40 td's. 14 td's is like we are back in the Craig Morton days with 12 game seasons and it was purely a running game league.

 

[Nav22]

14 td's is pretty pitiful for a 3rd year starter especially when comparing to a first yr starter who has 40 td's. 14 td's is like we are back in the Craig Morton days with 12 game seasons and it was purely a running game league.

Rush TDs count. 19 TD, not 14.

 

[Sydla]

passer ratings doesn't take into account passing yards and passing attempts. its geared towards Abs that play it safe, not those who pass a lot and make plays. which as I explained explains Dak as being the bus driver.....

plus cooper has helped him, of course. cooper has been great in getting separations, sometimes ridiculous ones which helps Dak who is not good in anticipating throws and has to have a wide open WR to make throws.....

Passer rating does take into account passing yards and attempts.