Video sums up Dak/Wentz debate

[cern]

I like dak. He's improving weekly. But if given the choice between dak and wentz, I'd take wentz. He does everything better than dak with the possible exception of running the ball.

 

[Nav22]

I stopped listening after Whitlock cited Dak’s 14 Pass TD without including his 5 Rush TD.

That’s 19 total for Dak, not 14. Nice try, Fat Man With An Agenda.

Wentz is on 18 total.

Dak’s also 7-5 while Wentz is 5-5 this season.

 

[ClintDagger]

agreed. If Dallas has to overpay for Dak its messes this up completely & Dallas will be hand-cuffed in head-head match-up for years against Philly.

First as others have said Wentz is clearly the better player. You won’t find a single respectable nfl scout that would tell you otherwise. Wentz has been shaky this year but that’s not surprising given the injury. He will rebound (unfortunately for us) and get back to where he was last year and probably better.

But to your point, the only advantage to having Dak as your QB is that he’s a bargain. Yeah you’re getting #22 rated QB in the league production but that can work when you spend the savings on your supporting cast. The minute you pay Dak like a franchise QB the whole thing will slowly crumble apart. He will never produce or perform like that, and the supporting cast will decline as well. We’ve seen the OL ranked in the top third for most of this year yet we are told Dak needs better than that to succeed. What happens to him when he’s got a bad OL? A bad D? A journeyman RB? Dak is far from a terrible QB, but he is clearly outside the top 20. But you can make that work with the proper resource allocation.

 

[Idgit]

Only thing dumber than trotting out the quarterback “W/L” record are the fans that use it.

It drives me nuts when fans do that, and act like it's a reasonable way to look at the production of an entire NFL team. More than half the plays the QB isn't even on the field.

 

[Nav22]

Only thing dumber than trotting out the quarterback “W/L” record are the fans that use it.

What an amazing coincidence that almost all of the best QBs in NFL history have great W/L records!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Well let's also take note that Jason Whitlock doesn't like black quarterbacks and has made a career of dogging them from McNabb to Kapernick to Cam Newton among others. Not shocking he's now making a career of talking about how Dak is Blake Bortles.

 

[sbark]

What an amazing coincidence that almost all of the best QBs in NFL history have great W/L records!

Archie manning might be the exception.....might be others

 

[Nav22]

It drives me nuts when fans do that, and act like it's a reasonable way to look at the production of an entire NFL team. More than half the plays the QB isn't even on the field.

It’s not an individual stat but it matters.

There’s a strong correlation between successful QBs having a great W/L record.

Yes, the team around you matters, of course. But when you’re an elite QB, chances are it’ll show up in your career W/L record at the end of the day.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Wow...who would've thought Deangelo Hall would've been the voice of reason. RESPECT.

 

[Ken]

Take that Dak-supporters!

Take what? Stupidity?

Dak gets dinged for having a defense and running game but it is ok gor Wentz lol .

Notice Deangelo said he didn't see a difference...

This is as uninformed a discussion as a lot of you partake in on here.

 

[pugilist]

my god the excuses for Wince LMAO.. unreal

 

[Nav22]

Archie manning might be the exception.....might be others

He’s the only exception I can think of as well.

Sample size matters, of course. One season can go awry for any number of seasons. But elite QBs find ways to win more often than not over the course of their careers. That’s why they make the big bucks.

 

[Nav22]

Yeah, Wentz is totally better than Dak, except for when it comes to actually winning close football games.

That’s when you need the confident gamer from Mississippi State and not the North Dakota dork who chokes in the clutch.

Dak’s stats are also right on par with Wentz, but (insert excuse for Wentz here).

 

[GenoT]

Like Hall said, as long as Dallas gets Dak for about $15 million...

Keep rubbing that lamp, Aladdin...you got two wishes left.

 

[BoysForLife]

Only thing dumber than trotting out the quarterback “W/L” record are the fans that use it.

Preach!

 

[sbark]

Yeah, Wentz is totally better than Dak, except for when it comes to actually winning close football games.

That’s when you need the confident gamer from Mississippi State and not the North Dakota dork who chokes in the clutch.

Dak’s stats are also right on par with Wentz, but (insert excuse for Wentz here).

Country boys will survive.....

 

[America's Cowboy]

Take that Dak-supporters!

Take what? The opinion from some steroid using ex-JAG DE nobodies and some fat analyst over a 3 time All Pro ex-CB?

I'll take DeAngelo Hall's opinion all day.

 

[Little Jr]

So let me get this straight.

Dak had a great rookie year because of everything around him. Wentz rookie year wasnt as great because he didn't have the weapons and team Dak had.

Dak 2nd year he took a step back because that's who he is and they had film on him and had nothing to do with what was happening around him. Wentz got his weapons and a better team around him and was a mvp candidate because that's who he is and he's just that good, forgetting about his rookie year.

Daks 3rd year he starts off with OL issues and no TE or WR and his play wasn't as good but its on him. He gets a little help with a new WR and some better OL play and the D is dominating and starts ti play a bit better but his play had nothing to do with it, it's the D and the players around him. Wentz loses his run game, good D and wr aren't as good and that's the reason he's not playing as well, plus his knee.

What I get from all this is, Wentz has proven he needs players around him but he gets credit for it when they play well and no blame when they dont. Dak has shown he needs player's around him but gets not credit for it when they have success and it's everyone else that gets credit. Its his fault when they dont have the player's around him and the don't have success.

Wentz: doesn't have players and success drops off but not his fault .

Wentz : does have players and had success but it's all him.

Dak: doesn't have player's and success drops off but he can't carry a team and isn't a good QB.

Dak: does have players and has success but that's not him, that's the team winning, nothing to do with Dak .

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

I leave for 4 days, come back, and y’all are still on this ****.

More than anything else, it delegitimizes a lot of the points offered by Dak detractors

 

[America's Cowboy]

Preach!

Both of you need to go follow your iggles in their forum!