Video: Watkins says Romo laughing at T.O. in meetings - 1/20/09
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Romo kinda stood up to Owens and told him straight up "No your not!"
Wow...Does Romo really like Owens? I guess we'll see when TO is cut!
Wow...Does Romo really like Owens? I guess we'll see when TO is cut!
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Stupid of Watkins to just report TO's side of the story. I wonder if he bothered to look into the instances where TO said things like this that weren't true?
I can say that Tony Casillas was reporting last week on that lousy Gamenight show on 103.3 (just happend to catch part of it) that people on the team have told him that TO will jump up and almost take over meetings, presumably WR meetings.
Casillas is yet another one who says TO is more of a distraction than we even hear about, and that he sets a very poor example for the younger players on the team.
But yes, let's bash Romo because Romo dared to laugh at him during a meeting.
I can say that Tony Casillas was reporting last week on that lousy Gamenight show on 103.3 (just happend to catch part of it) that people on the team have told him that TO will jump up and almost take over meetings, presumably WR meetings.
Casillas is yet another one who says TO is more of a distraction than we even hear about, and that he sets a very poor example for the younger players on the team.
But yes, let's bash Romo because Romo dared to laugh at him during a meeting.
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Chocolate Lab;2592246 said:Stupid of Watkins to just report TO's side of the story. I wonder if he bothered to look into the instances where TO said things like this that weren't true?
I can say that Tony Casillas was reporting last week on that lousy Gamenight show on 103.3 (just happend to catch part of it) that people on the team have told him that TO will jump up and almost take over meetings, presumably WR meetings.
Casillas is yet another one who says TO is more of a distraction than we even hear about, and that he sets a very poor example for the younger players on the team.
But yes, let's bash Romo because Romo dared to laugh at him during a meeting.
You are absolutely correct CL - however, this is NOT the first time we have heard about Romo's poor practice habits. Now I am not saying that the stories are true, but if they are, this team will not go anywhere until Romo takes his game to the next level. The last thing this team needs is a quarterback who thinks and feels invincible. I have been nothing but supportive of Tony Romo ever since he took over the starting job but I am a firm believer that this team goes as he goes and I am not happy to hear these types of stories negative stories about his bad habits. As far as the product that we see on the field - I think it is safe to say that there are plenty of players that dont take practice seriously because it shows on sundays.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Romo left the reservation. I think I would have too.
And don't talk about leadership because it doesn't matter if someone won't follow you. TO isn't following anybody. Tony can't lead that guy, and neither can anyone else.
As for Ton'y relationship with Garrett, I don't know enough to say. I thought Garrett was about to get Tony killed in several games by calling all of those shots down the field. I don't know if Garrett is that bad at his job, or if he was feeling pressure to throw those deep bombs to TO. I just don't know. It was strange, to say the least. For all I know, Jason Garrett wouldn't say a bad word to Romo because he felt the same way about this mess that Romo did...
I know that if I was Tony Romo, I would have more confidence in Jason Witten than anyone else on that offense.
And I know from what I have seen of Tony Romo that his work ethic is not a problem. He might be frustrated and doing things his own way, but I don't think he's a "celebrity QB" now.
If the QB position is the mos important position in football, you've got to give him a chance to succeed. Get rid of TO. If play-calling is still a problem, you can blame Garrett. If Romo isn't a hard-worker in practice, it has more credence after TO and his cronies are out of the locker room.
All I know is that this reeks of TO talking about how hard he works while pointing to someone else and saying, "See, that guy doesn't work as hard as I do. That's why we aren't getting the balls, receivers..." And is there any doubt that these sources about Romo are TO guys?
And don't talk about leadership because it doesn't matter if someone won't follow you. TO isn't following anybody. Tony can't lead that guy, and neither can anyone else.
As for Ton'y relationship with Garrett, I don't know enough to say. I thought Garrett was about to get Tony killed in several games by calling all of those shots down the field. I don't know if Garrett is that bad at his job, or if he was feeling pressure to throw those deep bombs to TO. I just don't know. It was strange, to say the least. For all I know, Jason Garrett wouldn't say a bad word to Romo because he felt the same way about this mess that Romo did...
I know that if I was Tony Romo, I would have more confidence in Jason Witten than anyone else on that offense.
And I know from what I have seen of Tony Romo that his work ethic is not a problem. He might be frustrated and doing things his own way, but I don't think he's a "celebrity QB" now.
If the QB position is the mos important position in football, you've got to give him a chance to succeed. Get rid of TO. If play-calling is still a problem, you can blame Garrett. If Romo isn't a hard-worker in practice, it has more credence after TO and his cronies are out of the locker room.
All I know is that this reeks of TO talking about how hard he works while pointing to someone else and saying, "See, that guy doesn't work as hard as I do. That's why we aren't getting the balls, receivers..." And is there any doubt that these sources about Romo are TO guys?
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Posters are likely to argue over which player shoulders the greater onus of blame, but it seems the reality is this:
Yes, TO is a distraction, and he is eroding team chemistry.
Yes, Romo has poor practice habits, and seems unable to take criticism.
Both players are wrong. Neither one seems willing to change. Therefore, the Cowboys are doomed to failure.
Yes, TO is a distraction, and he is eroding team chemistry.
Yes, Romo has poor practice habits, and seems unable to take criticism.
Both players are wrong. Neither one seems willing to change. Therefore, the Cowboys are doomed to failure.
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Bold--> Agreed, but if push comes to shove, one will be out the door and one shall remain. Should that happen, which will be labeled as the worst of the two?ScipioCowboy;2592309 said:
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Am I missing something here? I always thought that Romo was known for his diligent preparation and willingness to do whatever it takes to improve his game (according to former coaches and BP), the notorious trip to Mexico notwithstanding.
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Sasquatch;2592338 said:
Aikman was wondering the same thing today...
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144464
I think it has to do with Parcells, Sparano and David Lee all leaving the team.
Romo isn't fearing anyone any more just like the rest of the team.
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I don't care about Romo being a terrible practicer, TO being a jerk who takes over meetings, any of this crap.
I think the real issue is where is all this information coming from? Do we have Coach joe calling up radio stations drunk and shooting his mouth off again? Jesus H....somebody shut this thing down already.
I think the real issue is where is all this information coming from? Do we have Coach joe calling up radio stations drunk and shooting his mouth off again? Jesus H....somebody shut this thing down already.
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Oh, I know Tony Romo's not going anywhere. Even after 20 years of Jerry Jones decisions, he's not about to throw $60+ million down the toilet.wileedog;2592353 said:
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Sasquatch;2592338 said:
I think that Mexico trip, which many including myself defended as no big deal, was just the first sign of things to come.
I don't ever remember hearing about a QB of all people skipping town on a vacation during the playoffs, and their coach getting in front of a mike and defending it. That had to be the moment right there where Romo probably realized he had carte blanche here.
We'll see what tomorrow's round of anonymous squeelers brings to shed more light on the subject. :bang2:
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I am curious if Witten, Bennett or Crayton go into meetings saying...I was open when Romo threw it into double coverage trying to force the ball to TO and if they do does TO say...hey I was open, does romo say no you were not and do either laugh when they show the film of Romo throwing to TO in double coverage trying to force the ball to TO.
I am not saying this to get into a TO is evil blah blah blah rant.
What I am wondering is do they show that in film studies and if so does TO get mad or do other players get mad because they are forcing the ball to TO?
Seems I have seen many times last year and this year where they seemed to force the ball to TO when he was covered, when he ran the wrong route, when he quit on a route or he just dropped it when it got to him...so I have to wonder if the same scrutiny is thrown his way if they see it on film and I wonder if he laughs it off or gets mad.
Honestly I never got it when TO was complaining about Witten getting the ball too much when there were just as many times I thought they were forcing it to TO too much resulting in missed plays for other players or turnovers or drops.
Personally I think Romo should just throw the ball to whoever is open and if you happen to have two players open you might then decide which guy you will go to depending on where on the field they are or if you trust someone to make the catch in certain situations.
Sounds like some of the WRs need to shut their mouths as far as who is getting the ball and it seems like the coaches need to take control of the WRs' QB's TEs and the offense as a whole.
Sounds like Romo needs to have a swift kick in the butt to get back hungry like he used to be cause the more and more I hear it seems like he is gone soft or not doing as much as before. There is a fine line between a laid back type of demeanor and not being hungry. You don't have to be a rah rah or screaming guy to be hungry and want to win but you don't have to not take things serious anymore either.
Oh well...maybe they get things turned around, maybe the don't.
One thing that seems I will say is that I don't know if TO and Romo will be able to work things out.
I think Romo could with TO easier than TO could with ROMO (assuming all of these things are true).
TO is the type that once you make him mad, he never forgives or forgets...will he may say he forgives once he is on another team but I don't even think he does then either.
I am not saying this to get into a TO is evil blah blah blah rant.
What I am wondering is do they show that in film studies and if so does TO get mad or do other players get mad because they are forcing the ball to TO?
Seems I have seen many times last year and this year where they seemed to force the ball to TO when he was covered, when he ran the wrong route, when he quit on a route or he just dropped it when it got to him...so I have to wonder if the same scrutiny is thrown his way if they see it on film and I wonder if he laughs it off or gets mad.
Honestly I never got it when TO was complaining about Witten getting the ball too much when there were just as many times I thought they were forcing it to TO too much resulting in missed plays for other players or turnovers or drops.
Personally I think Romo should just throw the ball to whoever is open and if you happen to have two players open you might then decide which guy you will go to depending on where on the field they are or if you trust someone to make the catch in certain situations.
Sounds like some of the WRs need to shut their mouths as far as who is getting the ball and it seems like the coaches need to take control of the WRs' QB's TEs and the offense as a whole.
Sounds like Romo needs to have a swift kick in the butt to get back hungry like he used to be cause the more and more I hear it seems like he is gone soft or not doing as much as before. There is a fine line between a laid back type of demeanor and not being hungry. You don't have to be a rah rah or screaming guy to be hungry and want to win but you don't have to not take things serious anymore either.
Oh well...maybe they get things turned around, maybe the don't.
One thing that seems I will say is that I don't know if TO and Romo will be able to work things out.
I think Romo could with TO easier than TO could with ROMO (assuming all of these things are true).
TO is the type that once you make him mad, he never forgives or forgets...will he may say he forgives once he is on another team but I don't even think he does then either.