Videos: Steve Dennis piece from the locker room tonight.

[The30YardSlant]

If we go 0-4, it'll be due to some abnormal cause and will have absolutely nothing to do with you being right or wrong.

How bold of you

 

[theogt]

I'm not sure how many "prophets" start threads about eating crow about the team not having a chance against an opponent.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166242

 

[The30YardSlant]

Great. So what happened four years ago is more predictive than what happened in the past two months. Glad that we have your position out on the table so we can fully examine it in the light of day.

A culture of losing is tough to shed. Never underestimate the power of inherent deficiencies.

No, winning 8 of the past 12 games makes them not losers.

Winning 8 of their last 12 isnt going to matter when they lose 2 or 3 of the next 4 and blow the division lead. I'm sure you'll still call them winners at 9-7 or 10-6, though.

I predicted 3-2 over these last five games, actually. But you have no idea who I am or what I think, so I'm not sure why you'd even hazard a guess as to what the difference is between you and I. Rest assured the differences are numerous, however.

Thinking yourself superior to me in some way won't help you cope with another December collapse

 

[theogt]

When everyone was confident of a turnaround from past years, that a statement win was on the way, I was quick to bring up our past failures in this glorious month. I was scoffed at for doing so. 6-5 New York then proceeded to have their way with us.

Now, while everyone scrambles to figure out what went so very wrong, I'm still being scoffed at for saying this trend will continue, that SOMEHOW we won't beat a team that has won 7 straight and hasnt lost in December in 4 years.

We'll see what happens

Take out the Brandon Jacobs play and Eli has a sub-60 QB rating. They had a below average rushing YPC. Romo had a career day. We dominated them for 90% of the game. Unfortunately, a few quick scores and you can win a game in the NFL.

But let's please put away the revisionist history. I know you fancy yourself a prophet, but let's work on you getting your history right before you get your predictions down.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I'm not sure how many "prophets" start threads about eating crow about the team not having a chance against an opponent.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166242

The team proved me wrong. I hope they prove me wrong again.

But the bottom line is I showed up and acknowledged I was wrong.

I know you won't do the same when December is done.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Take out the Brandon Jacobs play and Eli has a sub-60 QB rating. They had a below average rushing YPC. Romo had a career day. We dominated them for 90% of the game. Unfortunately, a few quick scores and you can win a game in the NFL.

But let's please put away the revisionist history. I know you fancy yourself a prophet, but let's work on you getting your history right before you get your predictions down.

Losers makes excuses and whine about trying their best, winners go home and **** the prom queen.

We lost in a big game in December. Period. More importantly, we lost because New York just wanted it more. We didnt lose because they out-schemed us, we lost because they tackled better, hit harder, blocked better and did what it took to win.

Why don't our guys ever make plays like that in the second half of big late-season games? Why does the first tackler always bring us down? Why does the ball slip through our fingers? Why are the passes just slightly off? It goes back to the culture of losing. Do something wrong long enough, you even you start thinking you'll keep doing it

 

[theogt]

A culture of losing is tough to shed. Never underestimate the power of inherent deficiencies.

I guess they shed that culture of losing over the last 12 games then.

Winning 8 of their last 12 isnt going to matter when they lose 2 or 3 of the next 4 and blow the division lead. I'm sure you'll still call them winners at 9-7 or 10-6, though.

I agree that it isn't going to matter IF (not when) they lose three of the next four.

But that's neither here nor there. The question was whether they are winners. And having won more than they lost, they are.

Let's try and stay on topic, please, and not change the subject.

Thinking yourself superior to me in some way won't help you cope with another December collapse

You're absolutely right that it is such a low bar one shouldn't expect much benefit from crossing.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm just waiting for Brooking to start running up steps lol

 

[theogt]

The team proved me wrong. I hope they prove me wrong again.

But the bottom line is I showed up and acknowledged I was wrong.

I know you won't do the same when December is done.

I guess you're one of those hit or miss prophets.

Losers makes excuses and whine about trying their best, winners go home and **** the prom queen.

We lost in a big game in December. Period. More importantly, we lost because New York just wanted it more. We didnt lose because they out-schemed us, we lost because they tackled better, hit harder, blocked better and did what it took to win.

Why don't our guys ever make plays like that in the second half of big late-season games? Why does the first tackler always bring us down? Why does the ball slip through our fingers? Why are the passes just slightly off? It goes back to the culture of losing. Do something wrong long enough, you even you start thinking you'll keep doing it

There's always the "no excuses" line to protect people from actually analyzing what happened.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I guess they shed that culture of losing over the last 12 games then.

December losing. December.

We're really good at beating the Oaklands and Tampa Bays of the league in September, October and November, and have been for the last 4 years.

The whole December thing is in our heads. The players can deny it all they want, it's there, telling them they just can't do it, and with a coach as soft as Wade, they buy into it. The play on the field is a testement to this.

 

[The30YardSlant]

I guess you're one of those hit or miss prophets.

The discussion was with regards to what I said would likely happen in December

There's always the "no excuses" line to protect people from actually analyzing what happened.

There isnt a column in the morning paper that reads "almost" next to wins and losses.

We outplayed Pittsburgh last year, and that "almost" win would have put us in the playoffs.

The fact that we outplayed them and still lost is more a testement to our December block than a blowout IMO. That was a game we win in October.

 

[Idgit]

We outplayed Pittsburgh last year, and that "almost" win would have put us in the playoffs.

The fact that we outplayed them and still lost is more a testement to our December block than a blowout IMO. That was a game we win in October.

No it wasn't. Key turnovers in tight defensive games beat you in any month.

The same with this December loss to the Giants. It was basically the September game all over again. There are reasons we got beat, and they're the same reasons that keep getting us beat by good teams the last two years, but it's hilarious that you and so many like you really think they have something to do with the calendar month.

 

[Rampage]

No it wasn't. Key turnovers in tight defensive games beat you in any month.

The same with this December loss to the Giants. It was basically the September game all over again. There are reasons we got beat, and they're the same reasons that keep getting us beat by good teams the last two years, but it's hilarious that you and so many like you really think they have something to do with the calendar month.

we each turned the ball over once. Idfail

 

[The30YardSlant]

No it wasn't. Key turnovers in tight defensive games beat you in any month.

That's the point. We typically avoid those turnovers in the earlier months, and when we commit them we usually find ways to overcome them (Philly this year, for example)

The same with this December loss to the Giants. It was basically the September game all over again. There are reasons we got beat, and they're the same reasons that keep getting us beat by good teams the last two years, but it's hilarious that you and so many like you really think they have something to do with the calendar month.

The Giants game in September was an anomaly for this group. Our two other losses were due to us just getting beat (especially in the second half). I still maintain that loss had more to do with the grandest opening in sports history than anything else. There was so much pressure on us that it almost canceled out any advantage our homefield gave us. Over the past few years, these guys have played well and overcome mistakes more times than not early in the season

If you don't think something like this can get into your head, then you've likely never played organized athletics. I don't care if it is a 3rd string high school or QB or the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys, you fail enough times and it effects you.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

December losing. December.

We're really good at beating the Oaklands and Tampa Bays of the league in September, October and November, and have been for the last 4 years.

The whole December thing is in our heads. The players can deny it all they want, it's there, telling them they just can't do it, and with a coach as soft as Wade, they buy into it. The play on the field is a testement to this.

Dude you made a thread about never *****ing and whining any more after we beat the Eagles.

Now you come here after we lose a close game?

Get a ****ing grip. It's the NFL. Sometimes you lose!

Afterall, we are going 0-4 right? I mean, why even watch the games!? You already know what's going to happen

 

[superpunk]

I remember philo and the prophet.

 

[adbutcher]

Okay, so define this for me.

They are not losers. They are not winners.

Then what are they? Tiers? Or is it tires?

Why can't he provide a definition rather than a riddle?

Thank you, you just made my brain hurt. I will send you a bill because you are compromising my ability to do my job.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I think it depends on what your definition of a "winner" is.

Personally, I think a team may be classified as winners if they have had fantastic success in their sport.

Right now, I don't think you can call the Cowboys winners or losers because nothing of any real value has been won or lost this season.

I think why some in the media and fandom jump all over Wade's comments is because has made some really strange statements (like trying to insinuate that we won a Playoff Game in 2007 because we had a bye) and statements that some take as making excuses and really reaching to try to show that the team improved.

 

[tomson75]

I remember philo and the prophet.

Misty water-colored memories?

 

[daschoo]

Okay, so define this for me.

They are not losers. They are not winners.

Then what are they? Tiers? Or is it tires?

Why can't he provide a definition rather than a riddle?

average? above average?
theres only going to be one team that comes out of the season as winners depending on how strictly you're going to define it and i think its a bit harsh to call the other 31 teams losers.
to me what parcells was saying was that people are too quick to put a label on it and then file it away under that but maybe thats just my interpretation?