Vultures everywhere

[LocimusPrime]

I heard this very topic discussed on the radio. Dallas is a winners city. When you do great, we ( the city) will support you, but if you are mediocre or failing, the city will turn on you. They where discussing why the Rangers tickets sales where so bad the last month before post season play. The general consensus from the hosts and callers is if you don't win and win a lot we'd rather be doing other things like going to the lake, playing golf, watch movies ect.

 

[Cowboysfan1975]

2-0, before the QB went down.

Nobody said we'd win very many without Romo.

And I was on record saying not improving on Weeden was our biggest offseason mistake. He's looking like he's proving me wrong. If you're unhapoy with Weeden these last three games, you've got unrealistic expectations for your backup QB.

Backups are backups for a reason. Weeden does what most backups do. He can come in the middle of a game and get you a win. When teams have a week to prepare for him he struggles. That is why he is a backup in the first place.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

Misery loves company. The fact is that many people on this board are on this board because they don't really have anything in their lives they are happy or passionate about so they live vicariously through football. Dallas having issues gives them a reason to express their misery. The fact that they are nameless and faceless allows them the keyboard privacy and courage to amp their misery up as high as possible. They see no personal ramifications and it makes them feel better for the time they are doing it.

Definitely. Those kind of fans distort the mainstream Cowboy fans for the worse. Wasn't concerned about the Atlanta loss but NO is different.

Dallas just has a rash of injuries that would bring any team down. Period.

 

[iceberg]

Man, it seems like a lot of fans have been circling around waiting for that right moment to swoop in with the things they hate about this team: Marinelli sucks, Garrett sucks, get rid of the whole team.

Where were you guys last year when we were healthy and everything was going well?

I can't believe this many are so surprised or upset that we've lost the last two games without Romo and Dez and several other important players. This is a game of inches and we're giving up a mile without stars like that. It either says good things about our team or bad things about our opponents that we've actually been competitive with Weeden at QB, Williams as our lead receiver, players like Jack Crawford and Ryan Russell having to play significant snaps, a rookie linebacker who had played only a few snaps having to step in for Lee, etc.

When things fall apart like they have this year, you hope and pray for a win knowing that you should lose to teams that have a better QB starting, better No. 1 receiver, etc. The expectation around here are just unbelievable. Even if we were starting Cassel instead of Weeden, we could expect to go no better than .500 with Romo out because these guys are backups for a reason.

cause that's unfortunately, what "fans" do. some of them anyway. someone coined it "emotional insurance" and i've clung onto that term like a sucker fish to a shark, only leaving it to feed from time to time. great analogy and stupid, all at the same time. go figure.

anyway - there's a set of people that just whine. my guess would be in the "real world" they do the same. as soon as something happens whine worthy, that's what they do. i know people like this where it doesn't matter what you do or say, it's wrong. i just learn to deal with those people differently cause they ain't gonna change no matter how many times you rub their nose on the wet carpet.

just frustrates you and upsets the dog.

these days i just let 'em whine and when i've had enough, i turn it off and move on. i will admit it's a bit odd sometimes seeing a reply from someone i like reading posts from who's talking to alexander, risen or someone else who i already know the answer so the questions no longer surprise me. but outside that that feature has been the best thing for me and this board.

 

[iceberg]

Backups are backups for a reason. Weeden does what most backups do. He can come in the middle of a game and get you a win. When teams have a week to prepare for him he struggles. That is why he is a backup in the first place.

when he sees defensive numbers anywhere near him, he struggles.

 

[Jarv]

Take Brady and Gronkowski off the Pats.

Take Rodgers and Cobb off the Packers.

Take Wilson and Lynch off the Seahawks.

Neither of those teams win without that much star power on offense.

Don't for Julio and Ryan from the Falcons, do we win that game if they're not there?

 

[Clarkson]

many fans here have the emotions of a 15-year old girl angry at her parents, with the intelligence of a 7-year old.
for some reason it shocks me how pathetically dumb some people are here. you ain't got the answers fools!

 

[Clarkson]

I guarantee you Super Bowl teams (that's what was sold to us in the offseason) find a way to win at least one vs ATL/NO.

oh, if you guarantee it, does it somehow make it a fact?
not in your mind, in real life.

 

[Clarkson]

Was right here saying Garrett sucks and offers nothing.

THIS GUYS KNOWS FAM

 

[Boyzmamacita]

exactly. And the only one I said I was disappointed in is Marinelli. Never said he "sucks". But when your back-up QB drives the team 90 yards to tie a game late, and then your defense gags it up with one minute to go and lets a team stroll into easy FG range, that's disappointing. And that's on Marinelli.

Marinelli isn't missing tackles. Scheme will only get you so far. The players have to do their jobs. The defense we're fielding right now isn't cutting it.

 

[CATCH17]

Marinelli isn't missing tackles. Scheme will only get you so far. The players have to do their jobs. The defense we're fielding right now isn't cutting it.

Marinellis scheme is great when you have a lead.

I just have always worried about this scheme getting stops in crucial situations.

Even in the Mike Zimmer days it seemed like we would just let teams chip away at us even with the game on the line.

 

[cajuncocoa]

Man, it seems like a lot of fans have been circling around waiting for that right moment to swoop in with the things they hate about this team: Marinelli sucks, Garrett sucks, get rid of the whole team.

Where were you guys last year when we were healthy and everything was going well?

I can't believe this many are so surprised or upset that we've lost the last two games without Romo and Dez and several other important players. This is a game of inches and we're giving up a mile without stars like that. It either says good things about our team or bad things about our opponents that we've actually been competitive with Weeden at QB, Williams as our lead receiver, players like Jack Crawford and Ryan Russell having to play significant snaps, a rookie linebacker who had played only a few snaps having to step in for Lee, etc.

When things fall apart like they have this year, you hope and pray for a win knowing that you should lose to teams that have a better QB starting, better No. 1 receiver, etc. The expectation around here are just unbelievable. Even if we were starting Cassel instead of Weeden, we could expect to go no better than .500 with Romo out because these guys are backups for a reason.

Amen.

 

[Roadtrip635]

Personally, I'm just glad we decided to carry 4 TE's on the roster. I hate to think where this team would be without the production of all our TE's.

 

[gimmesix]

1. We've been complaining about the safeties for years.
2. We've been complaining about Marinelli's stubbornness regarding the DT position for years.
3. Many of us were perplexed why they decided to play with fire by bringing back Weeden. 0-10 his last 10 starts. He's a loser.

All three are biting us in the butt. There is good reason to be upset with this organization right now. This doesn't even touch on the lack of gameday imagination and in-game adjustments from our coaches.

Let me ask you this: How many teams could succeed with their top two players on offense out.

Do you think Atlanta would be winning without Matt Ryan and Julio Jones?

How about New England without Tom Brady and Gronk?

Philadelphia without ... wait, do the Eagles have a top two?

You're complaining because you have an opportunity to complain built on the fact that we are losing with the backup QB in there and minus our Pro Bowl receiver. Most teams are going to struggle in that situation if those players mean as much to them as ours do.

That doesn't mean I'm happy about every decision Dallas makes. (I've been harping on the RB position since Murray left.) It just seems silly to disparage the whole organization now after almost everyone was dreaming of Super Bowls last season and heading into this season.

 

[gimmesix]

when your players talk all off season about good things for this year then the fans get up beat and have expectation then your team plays like crap then yes they are very disappointed

The players were basing those hopes on the same thing we were: health. You can't hold the team to the same standard after losing key players like Bryant and Romo. I'm disappointed, too, but my disappointment has everything to do with this season being derailed by injuries and little to do with backups playing like backups.

 

[gimmesix]

I did not follow the training camp very closely but it felt like we had kind of "camp cake" with the sole goal of not getting anyone hurt. Keeping players out longer than necessary so that injuries are healed "completed" by regular season, just walk though preseason as if it is not important. Basically what happened since end of last year to beginning of this year? OL should be more dominant? DLaw improvement? scheme improvements? I know injuries are key part but am I the only one feeling that we didn't take the offseason as seriously as we should?

Did you feel that way after we started the season 2-0?

 

[Doomsday101]

when your players talk all off season about good things for this year then the fans get up beat and have expectation then your team plays like crap then yes they are very disappointed

Of course fans are upset but that is no excuse for how many act. Face reality, star QB out, top 3 WR in the NFL out, top FA and great pass rusher suspended and a number of other injuries forcing the team to play backups. This team is fighting to stay in it and what does the fan base do? kick them in the teeth while they are down. I'm sure should things turn around fans will once again sing their praise but that is a pretty lousy fan base.

 

[gimmesix]

Personally, I'm just glad we decided to carry 4 TE's on the roster. I hate to think where this team would be without the production of all our TE's.

Yes, carrying four tight ends is killing us this year.

 

[DallasDomination]

Vultures only come out when something is either dead or about to die.

Just saying.

 

[gimmesix]

Of course fans are upset but that is no excuse for how many act. Face reality, star QB out, top 3 WR in the NFL out, top FA and great pass rusher suspended and a number of other injuries forcing the team to play backups. This team is fighting to stay in it and what does the fan base do? kick them in the teeth while they are down. I'm sure should things turn around fans will once again sing their praise but that is a pretty lousy fan base.

We knew we were going to be without Hardy and McClain, but I think all of us felt pretty good about being able to weather it ... until we lost Dez and Romo. Losing them meant we needed to lean on a short-handed defense, so not having Hardy and McClain is definitely being felt more than we could have expected it to.

This is a hurtful season so far not because the coaches suddenly got stupid after going 12-4 last year, not because any player suddenly sucks after playing well, but simply because we had cautious reason to expect success and it has been ripped out from under us by injury.

My only hope is that we still have something to play for this year when Romo gets back.