W/L Record: QB stat or not?

[Brax]

You can’t even define your terms. You keep it vague by design so that you can adjust as you go.

Define “games that are critical.”

Was the 2018 Wild Card game vs Seattle “critical”? How did Dak play in that game?

Are ANY regular season games “critical”? Or just the ones he lost?

He was excellent against Green Bay in the playoffs as a rookie, but because we were behind early you’ll blame him for the loss.

You say we have to hold teams to “less than 14 points” but that’s dishonest as well.

We put up 31 vs the Packers and we put up 22 vs the Rams in the playoffs. So holding the Packers to 30 and holding the Rams to 21 would’ve resulted in wins. But you resort to “14 points or less” because it makes Dak look worse.


Just say you’re a Dak hater and be done with it. Stop trying to pretend you’re objective.

Meaningful full games, you know the ones he chokes in, that’s not vague. I don’t “hate” Dak that’s your baggage and your unwillingness to accept what you see. As for 2018 against a sub par Seattle team he won one , thanks to the good D and Zeke. Last I checked he got a W but where was he the first 3 quarters.

 

[Brax]

53-32 in the regular season, and the ONLY reason we may repeat as division champs is because we have Dak Prescott as our QB and the other 3 teams don’t.

So yeah, it’s going pretty well. QB isn’t our issue.

Let me know at the end of the season how well it’s going.

 

[Brax]

You have no chance to go anywhere if you don’t make the playoffs. If the Cowboys went with some of the low priced scrubs many of you want at QB they would never make the playoffs.

I never said scrubs, that’s your spin, take the top 5 QBs and replace Dak with them the does more. You enjoy 1 and done with all that brilliant play from # 4 that’s great most don’t and the excuses all stink but unfortunately that’s what you get from a average to good QB when the pressure is on.

 

[Brax]

As long as Jerry continues to pick yes men as head coaches and gives them little control we’re going to continue to be stuck in a rut. The number one problem with the team is the way it’s run. It doesn’t matter who the HC is we see the same results. Jerry continues sounding like the same broken record year after year after year.

We totally agree on the number one problem and that isn’t changing anytime soon.

 

[Brax]

As long as Jerry continues to pick yes men as head coaches and gives them little control we’re going to continue to be stuck in a rut. The number one problem with the team is the way it’s run. It doesn’t matter who the HC is we see the same results. Jerry continues sounding like the same broken record year after year after year.

Thanks for a conversation without name calling and vitriol, have a good night and enjoy the game.

 

[KJJ]

I never said scrubs, that’s your spin, take the top 5 QBs and replace Dak with them the does more. You enjoy 1 and done with all that brilliant play from # 4 that’s great most don’t and the excuses all stink but unfortunately that’s what you get from a average to good QB when the pressure is on.

There’s no QB out there that would have any more success with the Cowboys than Dak or Romo did. Our QB isn’t the problem!

 

[KJJ]

We totally agree on the number one problem and that isn’t changing anytime soon.

That’s not changing anytime soon which means nothing will change with the team regardless of the HC or QB.

 

[KJJ]

Thanks for a conversation without name calling and vitriol, have a good night and enjoy the game.

I don’t call anyone names unless they call me names. Have a good one!

 

[JJHLH1]

Wins and losses are a legitimate QB stat for starting QBs.

Kinda similar to starting pitchers in baseball, although they can get a no decision as well.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Win, loss is a QB stat and has been for decades.

Rodger 94-37
Danny 62-30
Tony 92-64
Dak 54-35

 

[Nav22]

Meaningful full games, you know the ones he chokes in, that’s not vague. I don’t “hate” Dak that’s your baggage and your unwillingness to accept what you see. As for 2018 against a sub par Seattle team he won one , thanks to the good D and Zeke. Last I checked he got a W but where was he the first 3 quarters.

Hahahahahahahaahaha

So the Seattle game (a win) doesn’t count because Dak didn’t put up huge numbers. Oh, and Seattle was “subpar” for some reason.

And the Packers game (a loss) doesn’t count because we lost, despite Dak’s great numbers.

Nice consistency. So there’s literally nothing Dak can do to please you. Even when he wins, he still lost in your eyes.


Care to establish the fact that you either LIED or grossly exaggerated when you said we need to hold teams to “14 points or less” to win?

As if Dak’s Trent Dilfer and not the guy who led the #1 offense in terms of yards and points last year?

Of course not. This is why you people get laughed at.

 

[Nav22]

Let me know at the end of the season how well it’s going.

LOLLLLL

So how well was it going at the end of the 2021 regular season?

“NO THAT DOESN’T COUNT!”

 

[Brax]

Hahahahahahahaahaha

So the Seattle game (a win) doesn’t count because Dak didn’t put up huge numbers. Oh, and Seattle was “subpar” for some reason.

And the Packers game (a loss) doesn’t count because we lost, despite Dak’s great numbers.

Nice consistency. So there’s literally nothing Dak can do to please you. Even when he wins, he still lost in your eyes.


Care to establish the fact that you either LIED or grossly exaggerated when you said we need to hold teams to “14 points or less” to win?

As if Dak’s Trent Dilfer and not the guy who led the #1 offense in terms of yards and points last year?

Of course not. This is why you people get laughed at.

I gave Dak the W it’s on his record, 2016 he played a good game for a quarter but like most must win games he disappears for 3 quarters. The only one being laughed at is you and your Dak homer view. How did that # 1 O do in the PO? I didn’t lie about the 14 points it appears that’s the type D he needs to feel he doesn’t have to win the game on offense and maybe he doesn’t keep choking based on his history and the talent of the team he plays. See you at the end of the season whining about everything but the most important player on the team that was a no show yet again. We shall see I hope for better things but expect more of the same from Dak the magician and his disappearing act, only time tell.

 

[Nav22]

I gave Dak the W it’s on his record, 2016 he played a good game for a quarter but like most must win games he disappears for 3 quarters. The only one being laughed at is you and your Dak homer view. How did that # 1 O do in the PO? I didn’t lie about the 14 points it appears that’s the type D he needs to feel he doesn’t have to win the game on offense and maybe he doesn’t keep choking based on his history and the talent of the team he plays. See you at the end of the season whining about everything but the most important player on the team that was a no show yet again. We shall see I hope for better things but expect more of the same from Dak the magician and his disappearing act, only time tell.

Hahahahahahaha

“Keeps choking in the playoffs” so he needs a defense to hold teams to “fewer than 14 points”...

Can you care to point out the Dak playoff games that this would apply to?

Psst... besides the 49ers game (in which we scored 17 points against a tough D and despite 14 penalties), Dak’s offense has put up 31, 22 and 24 points in each of his other 3 playoff games.

Those are the facts. This is why you guys are laughingstocks.

 

[Brax]

Hahahahahahaha

“Keeps choking in the playoffs” so he needs a defense to hold teams to “fewer than 14 points”...

Can you care to point out the Dak playoff games that this would apply to?

Psst... besides the 49ers game (in which we scored 17 points against a tough D and despite 14 penalties), Dak’s offense has put up 31, 22 and 24 points in each of his other 3 playoff games.

Those are the facts. This is why you guys are laughingstocks.

Every game,Math not your strong point, nor football,would Dak have won those games if the D gave up 14 points? Just stop you are looking like a fool who keeps spinning drivel. It’s a clown like you that gives the zone a good laugh with every post.lmao.

 

[DFWJC]

It’s pretty simple, but I see CZ members struggle with this mightily on a regular basis.

IF YOU BELIEVE W/L RECORD IS A QB STAT:

Dak is 53-32 in the regular season and 1-3 in the playoffs. Those are his records, period. You don’t get to take away his great regular season record and only blame him for the playoff record. Nor can you credit him for the regular season record without blaming him for the playoff record.

IF YOU DON’T BELIEVE W/L RECORD IS A QB STAT:

You can’t blame Dak for the 1-3 playoff record, just like you can’t credit him for the 53-32 regular season record. Those are TEAM stats.

Thanks, and go Bills tonight!

It should never be a QB stat
Its something you look at, but within an overall team concept

 

[Kevinicus]

More than any other sport...team stat.

 

[Nav22]

Every game,Math not your strong point, nor football,would Dak have won those games if the D gave up 14 points? Just stop you are looking like a fool who keeps spinning drivel. It’s a clown like you that gives the zone a good laugh with every post.lmao.

Slow Guy,

You said Dak’s warts could only be covered up if the defense holds opponents to “14 points or less” in the playoffs.

Dak’s teams have put up 31, 22, 24 and 17 points in the playoffs.

So no, he didn’t NEED the defense to hold teams to 14 or less, clown.

30 points allowed would’ve been fine vs Green Bay.

21 points allowed would’ve been fine vs the Rams.

You’re incredibly dense and a complete laughingstock. Typical anti-Dakker.

 

[Nav22]

There is no debate. W/L is a team stat.

it’s a 100% fact.

people simply use it for agenda purposes.

Doesn’t really matter to me either way.

The point is if you’re blaming him for the playoff losses, you’d better credit him for the regular season success.

And if you’re dismissing his strong regular season record, you’d better not be blaming him for the playoff losses.

 

[DogFace]

Man. Most of the Dak “dislikers” stayed away from this thread.

@Nav22 pretty much pinned them down with logic.