Wade Said No Receivers In First Round, Interesting

Beast_from_East

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Hey guys, Wade said he believes that you should never draft WRs in the first round because in college the passing game is watered down so much compared to the complexities of the NFL.

Jerry said we need a "wow" player on offense, but said QB and O-line set. Pretty safe to say TE is set also along with FB. Thus, it leaves WR and RB. Now Wade says not to draft WR in the first.

Well, a "wow" player is going to be selected in the first and if the 2 positions available are WR and RB and head coach says no to drafting WR, that pretty much leaves RB.

I think it is safe to say the "wow" player from this draft will be a RB and there is only 1 RB that is really considered a "wow" player.

I think yall know who I am talking about.:D
 

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he didn't say not too, he said the way he was taught from Reeves, that getting a WR in the first round isn't always good, because of the complexity of the NFL.

Never said not too.
 

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Beast_from_East;1814131 said:
Hey guys, Wade said he believes that you should never draft WRs in the first round because in college the passing game is watered down so much compared to the complexities of the NFL.

Jerry said we need a "wow" player on offense, but said QB and O-line set. Pretty safe to say TE is set also along with FB. Thus, it leaves WR and RB. Now Wade says not to draft WR in the first.

Well, a "wow" player is going to be selected in the first and if the 2 positions available are WR and RB and head coach says no to drafting WR, that pretty much leaves RB.

I think it is safe to say the "wow" player from this draft will be a RB and there is only 1 RB that is really considered a "wow" player.

I think yall know who I am talking about.:D

McFadden is a wow RB, but he isnt the ONLY wow RB in the draft imo.
 

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it usually takes WRs 2, 3 years, before they're ready to contribute much to your squad, so I can see the thought process going behind it
 

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dargonking999;1814134 said:
he didn't say not too, he said the way he was taught from Reeves, that getting a WR in the first round isn't always good, because of the complexity of the NFL.

Never said not too.

Taught 25 years ago, the college game has changed alot.
 

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I think we are in a GREAT position to draft a stud RB like Darren McFadden due to the fact that Dallas has such a young and talented team. Even this year there were only a certain amount of roster spots up for grabs in training camp. The only REAL competition in training camp was fullback, #4 and #5 WR's, 3rd TE, etc. Due to the great depth of our team, can we afford to package some picks to draft that "WOW" player from Arkansas. I'm almost 100% positive Julius won't be back, and I think Jerry regrets not trading up for Adrian Peterson this year, so I think he'll make the move for McFadden this year. Does anyone know what it would take to move up to lets say, #5 overall? Maybe our two 1st rounders, a 2nd and a 4th?
 

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That's been a longtime draft philosophy -- wide receivers aren't a good bet in the first round and can be had later in the draft.

Of course, you can make exceptions if the right player is available. Wade said he got the philosophy from Dan Reeves, and Reeves' teams twice drafted wide receivers in the first round. And of course, they both were busts.
 

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Beast_from_East;1814131 said:
Hey guys, Wade said he believes that you should never draft WRs in the first round because in college the passing game is watered down so much compared to the complexities of the NFL.

Jerry said we need a "wow" player on offense, but said QB and O-line set. Pretty safe to say TE is set also along with FB. Thus, it leaves WR and RB. Now Wade says not to draft WR in the first.

Well, a "wow" player is going to be selected in the first and if the 2 positions available are WR and RB and head coach says no to drafting WR, that pretty much leaves RB.

I think it is safe to say the "wow" player from this draft will be a RB and there is only 1 RB that is really considered a "wow" player.

I think yall know who I am talking about.:D


I love all this Arkie/Texas love for McFadden. You can completely move on and forget that pipedream.....


Not to mention we have MB3 a stud RB ready to take full time role next year. And this may be the deepest RB draft class in recent history.

Wow guy? remains to be seen, and we have two picks in 20 to 30 range....
 

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AdamJT13;1814243 said:
That's been a longtime draft philosophy -- wide receivers aren't a good bet in the first round and can be had later in the draft.

Of course, you can make exceptions if the right player is available. Wade said he got the philosophy from Dan Reeves, and Reeves' teams twice drafted wide receivers in the first round. And of course, they both were busts.


And most of us remember Bill and Jerry saying the same thing. Bill's not a fan of #1 WRs and I've heard Jerry echo that sentiment.
 

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Nors;1814264 said:
I love all this Arkie/Texas love for McFadden. You can completely move on and forget that pipedream.....


Not to mention we have MB3 a stud RB ready to take full time role next year. And this may be the deepest RB draft class in recent history.

Wow guy? remains to be seen, and we have two picks in 20 to 30 range....
i agree...Dallas has two first rounders and they should be careful with their selections...it'll cost too much moving up for MAC...the consensus is two firsts and a third for him...
 

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If we do any offense drafting, I want a young wideout, but not necessarily in the first round. I also want a good 3rd down back that would allow MB3 to step into the primary back role.

I still say we need secondary depth and you can never have too many lineman on both sides of the ball.
 

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WR is often one of the most drafted positions in the 1st round. Let's take a look at the WRs drafted Rd 1 from 2003-2005 (giving the WRs a chance to be in, at least, their 3rd season).

2005:
Braylon Edwards - 155 catches for 2439 yards and 21 TD
Troy Williamson - 74 catches for 1028 yards and 3 TD
Mike Williams - 44 catches for 539 yards and 2 TD
Matt Jones - 89 catches for 1186 yards and 10 TD
Mark Clayton - 145 catches 1758 yards and 7 TD
Roddy White - 121 catches 1872 yards and 7 TD

Of this class only Braylon Edwards is an unquestioned success, while Clayton and White are still working at making their mark. One would be suprised at this point to see anything out of the other three. Thats a 50% success rate.

2004:
Larry Fitzgerald - 305 catches for 4105 yards and 30 TDs
Roy Williams - 244 catches for 3650 yards and 28 TDs
Reggie Williams - 140 catches for 1779 yards and 11 TDs
Lee Evans - 223 catches for 3567 yards and 26 TDs
Michael Clayton - 151 catches for 2030 yards and 8 TDs
Michael Jenkins - 124 yards for 1492 yards and 13 TDs
Rashaun Woods - 7 catches for 160 yards and 1 TD

Fitzgerald, Roy Williams and Lee Evans are all legitimate #1 WRs in the NFL. After those three though none of the other WRs have put up better numbers than Patrick Crayton who was drafted the same year, out of a tiny tiny school, and who was a QB. Success rate of 43%

2003:
Charles Rogers - 36 catches for 440 yards and 4 TDs
Andre Johnson - 343 catches for 4488 yards and 22 TDs
Bryant Johnson - 202 catches for 2579 yards and 8 TDs

Only Andre Johnson has shown what it takes to be worth his 1st round pick to this point. Nothing needs to be said about Rogers, and Bryant Johnson has been a serviceable #3 WR, averaging 40 catches 516 yards and 2 TDs per season. Success rate of 33%.

Between 2003-2005 there was a success rate of Rd 1 WRs of 44%. Granted you'd need a larger sample size to pull any truly useful data out of all this, but I don't have the energy for that.
 

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I am looking for a Revis like Corner with Return skills

And a RB that may drop to bottom of 1.....Slaton/Rice
 

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I think the wow player Jerry could be talking about maybe Felix Jones. The guy is just as explosive as DMac and he should be there with the 1st pick. Our 2nd pick should be best CB left.
 

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Beast_from_East;1814131 said:
Hey guys, Wade said he believes that you should never draft WRs in the first round because in college the passing game is watered down so much compared to the complexities of the NFL.

Jerry said we need a "wow" player on offense, but said QB and O-line set. Pretty safe to say TE is set also along with FB. Thus, it leaves WR and RB. Now Wade says not to draft WR in the first.

Well, a "wow" player is going to be selected in the first and if the 2 positions available are WR and RB and head coach says no to drafting WR, that pretty much leaves RB.

I think it is safe to say the "wow" player from this draft will be a RB and there is only 1 RB that is really considered a "wow" player.

I think yall know who I am talking about.:D



I hate it when coaches and GMs get closed minded about certain things. I guess we should've never drafted Irvin in the 1st round. San Fran. should've never drafted Rice in the 1st round.:rolleyes: Teams shouldn't just limit themselves like that.
 

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Or maybe Wade is eluding that the wow player could be a WR that has already shown he can handle the NFL....
 

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I think the biggest mistake teams make is drafting a WR in the first round when they don't have a QB, WR is a position that is totally dependant on the QB.

Edwards is a perfect example, how could anyone expect him to live up to his draft status with Frye as his QB, now he has a solid one in Anderson and he is playing like one of the best in the game.
 

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tecolote;1814365 said:
I think the biggest mistake teams make is drafting a WR in the first round when they don't have a QB, WR is a position that is totally dependant on the QB.

Edwards is a perfect example, how could anyone expect him to live up to his draft status with Frye as his QB, now he has a solid one in Anderson and he is playing like one of the best in the game.


:hammer: :lions:
 

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Nors;1814264 said:
I love all this Arkie/Texas love for McFadden. You can completely move on and forget that pipedream.....

LOL... this from a guy who cuddles up to a Ricky Santos doll when he climbs into bed each night...


Not to mention we have MB3 a stud RB ready to take full time role next year. And this may be the deepest RB draft class in recent history.

Barber will get killed if you ask him to carry the ball 20 times a game... his running style is just too violent...
 
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