Wade will have as much control over things as Parcells did

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hey, i like the hire, our off was good last season and 3rd in scoring, the def failed toward the end of the season. wade will help that and id still like to see r, rivera as our DC. and our def should be no.1 next season
 

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Dave_in-NC;1367859 said:
All I needed to know. Campo claimed the same thing.:D

Campo claimed that he would have as much power as Parcells? :confused:

I know this fact doesn't fit your agenda, but I never heard Campo say anything that would leave me to believe that he had Parcells-type power. If I am wrong, please post your proof.
 

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Fernando Fernandez;1367943 said:
can you guys stop it with that banning crap?
verry, verry immature and not to mention disrespectful of the other posters.

Lighten up, Francis. I'm sure he meant it as a joke.
 

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AtlCB;1368020 said:
Campo claimed that he would have as much power as Parcells? :confused:

I know this fact doesn't fit your agenda, but I never heard Campo say anything that would leave me to believe that he had Parcells-type power. If I am wrong, please post your proof.

Im not comparing Campos power to Parcells. I thought it was a general statement that Phillips made about having power period. Campo did say he made the decisions all the time when prodded by the press.

Sorry to confuse.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1367896 said:
No, I would rather we signed Rivera. Phillips is the best of a bad bunch after that. He don't have it in him to even try to gain control from Jones.

What makes you think that Rivera would have any more power as HC than Phillips would. Wade Phillips has a history of not being a puppet.
 

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I think Parcells had too much power. Ireland should have been allowed to make the draft picks and this is especially true with Philips. Coaches tend to get over their head when given GM duties (Holmgren). Let coaches coach and let the personal departement do their job. I don't want Jones telling the coach who must start and what schemes to play, but I don't want Philips making the draft picks either.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1368028 said:
Im not comparing Campos power to Parcells. I thought it was a general statement that Phillips made about having power period. Campo did say he made the decisions all the time when prodded by the press.

Sorry to confuse.

Proof?

Sorry, but I don't remember Campo ever saying this.
 

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AtlCB;1368031 said:
What makes you think that Rivera would have any more power as HC than Phillips would. Wade Phillips has a history of not being a puppet.

I just think Phillips is a stop gap until Jones thinks Garrett is ready. He's not going to give him a ton of rope. Rivera being a younger guy might have made a better run. His not being a 34 guy is what hurt him.
 

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AtlCB;1368038 said:
Proof?

Sorry, but I don't remember Campo ever saying this.

Yeah Ill pull up PCs from eight years ago.:rolleyes: I remember Campo used to say he was a puppet
 

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neosapien23;1368037 said:
I think Parcells had too much power. Ireland should have been allowed to make the draft picks and this is especially true with Philips. Coaches tend to get over their head when given GM duties (Holmgren). Let coaches coach and let the personal departement do their job. I don't want Jones telling the coach who must start and what schemes to play, but I don't want Philips making the draft picks either.


This has got to be one of the best statements ever made on this board. Coachs should have some input, but there is a reason the scouts are out there doing their jobs.

:clap: :clap: :clap:
 

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RW Hitman;1367892 said:
I suppose you are a member of the H.A.N.D. group (How About Norv ******)?

I thought we were all part of P.O.O.N.T.A.N.G.? (Phillips Obviously On New Team As New God). After all, we are all Cowboys fans with a new Cowboys coach.
 

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If Phillips stated that he was to get as much control as Parcells then that measns that Jones told him that.

Now you can say that Jones is a liar or you can say that this was never said but unless you think Jones is a liar then its true.

The whole puppet scenario doesnt make sense. Wade Phillips is not a croney like Campo or a nobody like Gailey. He is an established well thought of member of the NFL coaches fraternity. This whole sentiment seems to come from a dislike for Jones and not a shred of logic or proof.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1368064 said:
If Phillips stated that he was to get as much control as Parcells then that measns that Jones told him that.

Hey, did you know gullible isn't in the dictionary? It is written on the ceiling, though.
 

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from reports Phillips is one of the most popular coaches within circles inside the league. other coaches like the guy...is very respected for his coaching...esp on defense. You dont spend as much time in the NFL as he has without having people's respect.

This guy is no chan Gailey puppet type. Jerry is always going to have some input as its HIS team and HIS money but I think the notion some seem to have that Wade will be some puppet with Jerry pulling all his strings and contolling everything he does is flat absurd. it makes no sense. Phillips isnt that kinda guy and isnt some push over type with how he wants to coach
 

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the DoNkEy PuNcH;1368084 said:
Hey, did you know gullible isn't in the dictionary? It is written on the ceiling, though.

ive known DizzG from Spurs message boards and i trust him. while i have not agreed with many of Jones' decisions i have never thought him a liar. and Phillips doesnt have the reputation of a liar.

So exactly how am i being gullible? because i dont agree with your illogical agenda?

hr got fired because he wouldnt fire dehaven in buffalo after that playoff loss so now all of a sudden hes a coward. sorry that your take makes no sense.
 

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I certainly "hope" that he does not turn out to be another puppet, we don't need to have another one of those around here again.
 

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Dave_in-NC;1368042 said:
I just think Phillips is a stop gap until Jones thinks Garrett is ready. He's not going to give him a ton of rope. Rivera being a younger guy might have made a better run. His not being a 34 guy is what hurt him.

Phillips will probably only coach for a few years, but that doesn't make him a puppet. Phillips has proven in Buffalo that he allow himself to be fired before having decisions dictated to him while HC of a team.
 

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AtlCB;1368119 said:
Phillips will probably only coach for a few years, but that doesn't make him a puppet. Phillips has proven in Buffalo that he allow himself to be fired before having decisions dictated to him while HC of a team.
I would agree if I didn't think much like Norv this is his last shot at any HC position. Did any one even interview Phillips besides the Cowboys for a HC spot?
 

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Dave_in-NC;1368129 said:
I would agree if I didn't think much like Norv this is his last shot at any HC position. Did any one even interview Phillips besides the Cowboys for a HC spot?

Al Davis didnt but he picked some college coordinator for the job. I wouldnt call that an indictment and the Vikings i think had an opening and didnt but i dont recall them interviewing anyone.
 
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