WaPo: Commanders Dumbing Down Their Defense

[Bob Sacamano]

It may be simple to learn, but this defense isn't getting more simple.

but the defense needed to be simple to learn for most of our defenders to understand how to run it

and we all saw the struggle in the Parcells' read and react scheme

all in all, we have nothing to crow about because most of our defenders need a simple scheme to learn as well

 

[theogt]

but the defense needed to be simple to learn for most of our defenders to understand how to run it

It's not simple in order for a us to learn it. Where are you getting that?

and we all saw the struggle in the Parcells' read and react scheme

That had nothing to do with being too complex. In fact it had much to do with being too simple.

all in all, we have nothing to crow about because most of our defenders need a simple scheme to learn as well

No, they don't.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

It's not simple in order for a us to learn it. Where are you getting that?

it's a simple D to learn, what more is there to say? and the players are excited that it's simple and aggressive

 

[theogt]

it's a simple D to learn, what more is there to say?

That it makes no sense to say that we're going to a more simple defense. Much less that we're going to a more simple defense because our players can't handle a more complex defense.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

That it makes no sense to say that we're going to a more simple defense.

the players say the new scheme is easier to learn, Wade says his D is simple, Parcells said his D is mentally taxing on the OLBs

Much less that we're going to a more simple defense because our players can't handle a more complex defense.

our players couldn't handle a read and react scheme, meaning they weren't smart enough to read and respond to where the play was going, now we're going to a D that the new coach keeps emphasizing how easy it is to learn, and how it's less reading and reacting, idk, doesn't really inspire faith in our player's intelligence

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Suppose they want their owner to understand it.

 

[theogt]

the players say the new scheme is easier to learn, Wade says his D is simple, Parcells said his D is mentally taxing on the OLBs

They also say that it's more complex. There's more movement. There are a plethora of exotic personnel packages. The coverage schemes are more varied and complex. The blitz packages more varied and complex. The linemen have multiple assignments as opposed to playing 2-gap nearly every single down. We all know that it will be much less predictable. Please, stop trying to say it's more simple. That's just insane. Read through his 260 page playbook. It's not simple.

our players couldn't handle a read and react scheme, meaning they weren't smart enough to read and respond to where the play was going, now we're going to a D that the new coach keeps emphasizing how easy it is to learn, and how it's less reading and reacting, idk, doesn't really inspire faith in our player's intelligence

They couldn't handle it? Or it simply didn't work? The biggest problem was the simplicity of the defense. We ran the same coverage schemes over and over. Teams figured it out. We lined up in the same positions regardless of opposing packages. Teams figured it out. Why? It was so simple.

Our players knew exactly what to do(except for a few random blown coverage assignments by Bradie James and the other ILB whose name escapes me at the moment). And they did it. Either they weren't physical enough to play it, or it simply wasn't a good scheme. Regardless, it had nothing to do with their intelligence. Nothing at all.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

They also say that it's more complex. There's more movement. There are a plethora of exotic personnel packages. The coverage schemes are more varied and complex. The blitz packages more varied and complex. The linemen have multiple assignments as opposed to playing 2-gap nearly every single down. We all know that it will be much less predictable. Please, stop trying to say it's more simple. That's just insane. Read through his 260 page playbook. It's not simple.

they say it's easy to run for the D, but confusing for the O to figure out, it's a scheme that's easy to grasp

Regardless, it had nothing to do with their intelligence. Nothing at all.

so where does intelligence come into play? mistakes are due to mental breakdowns

saying intelligence had nothing to do w/ the struggles is, pun intended, stupid

 

[AsthmaField]

Just for my two cents... the Commanders O-line was playing pretty good by the end of the season. They were good run blocking and didn't allow many sacks.

However, that was with a quickly improving Dockery playing at LG. Now that he's gone and Wade is playing that position, their OL could be much worse this year. Wade is a journeyman tackle that they're moving to guard. They really wanted Leonard Davis but didn't have the money to compete for his services. Because they were so limited with their cap and simply HAD to have a MLB and help in the secondary, they couldn't do much at LG.

That simple move could be their undoing offensively because if Campbell doesn't have good protection, they won't be winning many games... and as we know, the OL is only as good as it's weakest link.

 

[theogt]

they say it's easy to run for the D, but confusing for the O to figure out, it's a scheme that's easy to grasp

The 1-gap is easier to play physically for the linemen. Ware being able to pin his ears back is easier physically than being in coverage 1/3 of the snaps. These things have nothing to do with it being more simple or more complex.

so where does intelligence come into play? mistakes are due to mental breakdowns

saying intelligence had nothing to do w/ the struggles is, pun intended, stupid

Did you not read the word "except?"

 

[theogt]

Just for my two cents... the Commanders O-line was playing pretty good by the end of the season. They were good run blocking and didn't allow many sacks.

However, that was with a quickly improving Dockery playing at LG. Now that he's gone and Wade is playing that position, their OL could be much worse this year. Wade is a journeyman tackle that they're moving to guard. They really wanted Leonard Davis but didn't have the money to compete for his services. Because they were so limited with their cap and simply HAD to have a MLB and help in the secondary, they couldn't do much at LG.

That simple move could be their undoing offensively because if Campbell doesn't have good protection, they won't be winning many games... and as we know, the OL is only as good as it's weakest link.

That may be true. I didn't pay much attention to them once the became completely irrelevant.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The 1-gap is easier to play physically for the linemen. Ware being able to pin his ears back is easier physically than being in coverage 1/3 of the snaps. These things have nothing to do with it being more simple or more complex.

we're talking about the mental part of the game, Phillips' scheme is easy to learn, so it can't be that taxing mentally

the players will know what they're doing, but the offense won't, that, according to Wade, is the beauty of his scheme

Did you not read the word "except?"

guess not

 

[theogt]

we're talking about the mental part of the game, Phillips' scheme is easy to learn, so it can't be that taxing mentally

That doesn't mean it isn't complex. That doesn't mean it isn't more complex than Parcells' defense. That doesn't mean they're "dumbing it down" like the Commanders.

the players will know what they're doing, but the offense won't, that, according to Wade, is the beauty of his scheme

Why? Because it's more complex.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

That doesn't mean it isn't complex. That doesn't mean it isn't more complex than Parcells' defense. That doesn't mean they're "dumbing it down" like the Commanders.

the stunts and movement along the line makes it complex

for the opposing offense

Why? Because it's more complex.

for the opposing offense, not to the defensive players

either way, I don't think we have much to brag about concerning intelligence, which is why I'm not laughing like others are at the Commanders dumbing their D down

 

[theogt]

the stunts and movement along the line makes it complex

for the opposing offense

for the opposing offense, not to the defensive players

either way, I don't think we have much to brag about concerning intelligence, which is why I'm not laughing like others are at the Commanders dumbing their D down

LOL. k.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

LOL. k.

yeah, our D is an oxymoron

both simple and complex for the players

 

[Green28]

Its all going to come down to campbell though. IF he struggles and they can only score 13 or 17 points a game they will struggle.

Is it the maturation of Campbell, the addition of Portis, a stronger defense, or being in the 2nd year of Saunders' offense that makes you think they'll score less than what they did last season - 19.2 pts/game?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Is it the maturation of Campbell

wishful thinking

the addition of Portis

who will probably get re-injured

a stronger defense

wishful thinking

or being in the 2nd year of Saunders' offense that makes you think they'll score less than what they did last season - 19.2 pts/game?

LOL, you guys sucked royally in the 1st year, idk how much you guys expect to improve on in the 2nd year, so chalk this one up to once again...

wishful thinking

 

[theogt]

LOL, you guys sucked royally in the 1st year, idk how much you guys expect to improve on in the 2nd year, so chalk this one up to once again...

wishful thinking

2 PERCENT!!!!!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

2 PERCENT!!!!!

:laugh1: one of the most ridiculous spin-jobs I ever heard