Warner Breakdown of Dak vs Houston

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

After watching this breakdown by Kurt Warner, it's become crystal clear what is the biggest problem facing our passing: it's the stupidly horrible routes per play Kellen Moore has designed, plus several receivers running super lazy routes (looking specifically at you, CeeDee). Absolutely horrible designed routes on almost every play that actually hurts your QB and instead helps the opposing Defense. No wonder Dak looks as bad as he does on failed passing plays. Any QB would struggle if his receivers were running such horrible routes that do nothing but make life harder for your QB to find any open receiver. Kellen Moore and his assistant coaches are the problem!

Jerry should hire Kurt Warner to come redesign the entire playbook, especially our receiver routes, plus help this Offense understand Kurt's better way of designing route running pass plays...and why.

The plays are too cluttered. The receivers aren't getting enough separation from one another which leads to, too many defenders around the ball. Moore is not attacking the outside or the corners of the field enough.

 

[America's Cowboy]

The plays are too cluttered. The receivers aren't getting enough separation from one another which leads to, too many defenders around the ball. Moore is not attacking the outside or the corners of the field enough.

Exactly. This cluttering would affect any QB. It's painfully obvious why Dak is struggling to find an open receiver or being forced to throw the ball into tight coverages. Most of it has to do with Kellen Moore's very poorly designed receiving routes which only helps opposing Defenses. Coach McCarthy needs to address this. Heck, bring in Kurt Warner and see if he would be willing to help our O-coaches create better routes for every passing play.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Interesting breakdown by Kurt Warner of Dak's play vs Houston.

Another play in another week, I think an INT to when trying to throw to CD, where it's much the same, with CD running right into the path of coverage, giving Dak nowhere to go. And in this case, giving the deep safety no reason to cover him.

It's good to be great with the ball in your hands.
It's great to be great with the ball *not* in your hands.

Another play, Dak's throwing into the guy who is running into coverage.
Dak seems to have trouble seeing *ahead* of the route, seeing where it is going..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Few questions:
When you watch the games are you seeing Dak under duress before having a chance to throw?

Did Kurt blame pressure in his breakdown? (I didn't watch it but I gather he didn't)

All I said was I don’t think Dak trusts his line. It didn’t just start this year. Just my observation he gets happy feet at times when he shouldn’t.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I found this in the video of the sports show with Marcus Spears. I mentioned the stats in a thread. I was challenged on this by several people telling me there is no way this is true. Then came the people suggesting the team doesn't give up many sacks. As pointed out this would be the rebuttal by cnuball21.





But, as you see, it doesn't matter what the evidence is, there will be the ones who refuse to accept this is not entirely Dak. Not saying Dak is Brady. But.......

How do you ignore the fact that the last pick in the Houston game was with Ball at right tackle. When Dallas kept Houston from scoring, they replaced Ball with Peters. A guy that hadn't played right tackle since sometime in 2005.

And what was the results?



By the way, that overpaid Dalton Schultz sure was key to the 98-yard drive. Along with some pass protection.

I agree on all the above. And yeah the Schultz crowd sure has shut their tune lately.

 

[DogFace]

While I agree with you somewhat, in my opinion, the throws were all there to be made. Regardless of the route concepts info, it almost sounds as if Kurt is trying to be nice to Dak by mentioning the pattern as if to excuse him for not having made the throw sooner on each play. He coulda just stopped and said plant your foot and fire with accuracy here. Which he kinda did at times did but then softened his stance by pointing out route concepts.

My whole point is there IS plenty evidence of wide receiver separation for accurate throws to be made in just the first 15 minutes alone of all these PA plays, ALL of those throws that could have been made, should have been made imo.

They weren't.

Opinions vary I guess.

And I'm sure the resident Dak defense attorney teams here and self proclaimed QB analysts will point how wrong Kurt is.

But that's life in the Zone for ya, lol.

Warner is also part of the Dak defense team? The fact you see it that way says a lot.

He simply points out that these routes that every team runs need to have certain wrinkles against certain defensive coverages and that it is a fundamental part of the play working.

 

[DogFace]

Cool stuff. Warner prefaces it with saying “I love Dak, great leader and very good QB.” And goes on to say the purpose of these videos is to teach and provide feedback on some of the negative plays he sees.

My take on the video is he questioned several route concepts (play calling), Dak uses his eyes well sometimes but wants to see more, and would like to see him be more aggressive.

All fair and good feedback.

Then I look at some of the messages on here and it’s “Warner says Dak sucks.” Lol…so predictable.

They hear what they want. Any impartial person could hear what he was saying.

 

[CowboyoWales]

The plays are too cluttered. The receivers aren't getting enough separation from one another which leads to, too many defenders around the ball. Moore is not attacking the outside or the corners of the field enough.

I agree with this, however, to me it's another issue between Mooke/Dak about the concepts and scheme's and whether they best suit Dak's abilities or what best suits Moore (and his play design ability).

To my (amateur) eye Dak's struggles tend to be between the hashes on digs and slants (Isaiah Stanback seems to mention this frequently). Many of these plays, in the vid, seem to show a double slant scheme which is hardly playing to Dak's strengths. If Moore designs a play for between the hashes, surely he wants to reduce traffic, not increase it?

 

[stinkface]

Even on that last game winning drive, he was throwing to Shultz in the middle when there were wideouts open 25 yards down the field, but he was sticking with the first read.

PS. I might be wrong, but it seems there are many times when we could be taking a deep shot, where Dak is reading the field from left to right and not even looking to push the ball down the field and going for a chunk play.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Even on that last game winning drive, he was throwing to Shultz in the middle when there were wideouts open 25 yards down the field, but he was sticking with the first read.

PS. I might be wrong, but it seems there are many times when we could be taking a deep shot, where Dak is reading the field from left to right and not even looking to push the ball down the field and going for a chunk play.

Yep, he likes throwing to a large standing (or not moving quickly) target....it's what Dak feels comfortable with. Play that with a two-headed (varied) running game can be EXTREMELY successful.....this would/should create/set up the space for CeeDee.

My point would be that Dak wants the Schultz throw, whilst Moore wants that play to go to first read on the WR.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

AND.......................... are we leaving out 2 dropped tds(would have looked great on the qr/QBR chart), having his body/arm hit twice one leading to an INT, 3 dropped passes, 2 poor routes ran, OL not pass blocking well..

this gets old all the sharing but only taking a part of feedback to attach and support their narratives,.

Daks fine, he wasnt sharp but the first and last drives were why hes still considered a top 10 guy..so hes not elite., its about winning, not stats,

wasnt that where the old goal post was? daks 7-2 correct ? yet a 14point lead he handed this great defense so they can blow a lead would have had him 8-1 and undefeated since his return, thats winning correct..??

just clarifying .....

No, folks would rather have Rush and the 27th ranked offense

 

[SultanOfSix]

Moore’s plays aren’t going to always work. There’s a DC on the other team for a reason. But when they do the QB needs to read his progressions in a timely manner, and see and make the pass to the open receiver(s).

 

[Xeven]

If guys are open, it's the QB's job to find them and hit them.

Not Kellen Moore's.

It is the OC job to explain to the QB how things are supposed to play out. You can’t design a play and just expect a QB to get all the nuances you planned in. I think Moore is playing checkers while Warner is explaining chess.

 

[McKDaddy]

All I said was I don’t think Dak trusts his line. It didn’t just start this year. Just my observation he gets happy feet at times when he shouldn’t.

Ok, but why?

I can understand getting skittish during periods where the line has struggled, like last year. But it's December of 2022. He's had all camp and all season to see that this group doesn't generally give up immediate pressure.

He does have happy feet. Unfortunately, I think it's because he is uncomfortable due to not being the best processor of information and knowing he has throwing limitations. I don't say that to trigger you or anyone else. I say it because I think he knows his issues and he can't overcome it even though he tries.

Like a free throw shooter that every now and again has a good stretch at the line but can't sustain it.

 

[mardwin]

I found this in the video of the sports show with Marcus Spears. I mentioned the stats in a thread. I was challenged on this by several people telling me there is no way this is true. Then came the people suggesting the team doesn't give up many sacks. As pointed out this would be the rebuttal by cnuball21.





But, as you see, it doesn't matter what the evidence is, there will be the ones who refuse to accept this is not entirely Dak. Not saying Dak is Brady. But.......

How do you ignore the fact that the last pick in the Houston game was with Ball at right tackle. When Dallas kept Houston from scoring, they replaced Ball with Peters. A guy that hadn't played right tackle since sometime in 2005.

And what was the results?



By the way, that overpaid Dalton Schultz sure was key to the 98-yard drive. Along with some pass protection.

I guess this is fake.