Warner Breakdown of Dak vs Houston

[Ken]

So the thing that makes Dak a great QB is posters on a social media site criticizing him? That seems odd to me.

Well it is basic logic. If the people who have consistently the worst takes on the board that are way more wrong than right think something, it is likely actually completely the opposite.

 

[USArmyVet]

Why am I not surprised? Since you changed the narrative I think you got my point because I think you're smart enough to have got it, you're just being silly. Although I could be wrong about you being smart enough. Am I?

Interesting the claim of me changing the narrative when the thread was about Warner breaking down Dak's play and Moore's play design yet you introduced Rodgers.....so is that changing the narrative or just simple deflection?

 

[USArmyVet]

Well it is basic logic. If the people who have consistently the worst takes on the board that are way more wrong than right think something, it is likely actually completely the opposite.

Okay that is simply too much logic emerging from the cornfield type of thinking for me to comprehend or agree with so enjoy.

 

[Vtwin]

we have one of the bottom 5 Pass win rate and pressure OL, you see that? daks being hit, under pressure, moves of fhis spot, KM has issues either with design or how the Wrs are running routes IE one of the worst septation groups in the nfl, and some how we ignore that..LOL

so there issues with the pass game that being ignored and dumped on Dak as usual.. also being hes 6-1 in his return and would be 7-0 had the defense not blown that GB lead and Hes impacted the total offense from bottom 5 to top 5.

NEXT ignorant narrative to bust??

Pardon my most humble intrusion, but if you allow I have a question, oh great Guru.

I have read, from you and many others, in response to Dak criticism.... "The Cowboys have the most productive offense in the league since Dak's return!!!!"

You say it yet again in the post I quoted here.

So please help this ignorant hillbilly understand just how it is possible to achieve this with an imbecile at OC, a terrible o-line, and the "worst septation (sic) WR group in the NFL"?

It sounds like you (and others) are trying to tell us that Dak is solely responsible for the offensive productivity and has to overcome his terrible OC, terrible receivers and terrible O-line.

Now that just seems silly to me.

Can you help me out here? Educate me on what I'm missing?

I sure would appreciate it.

 

[mardwin]

Incorrect.

Is like saying you are the dumbest person in class but also you have the highest grade of all students in class. Can't be both.

 

[cnuball21]

Is like saying you are the dumbest person in class but also you have the highest grade of all students in class. Can't be both.

Win rate factors in sacks, pressures, QB hits, hurries, knockdowns and if the OL is sustaining blocks for a specific period of time.

Sacks given up factors in…sacks. Also give zero indication of how quickly the ball is coming out and/or if the QB can evade.

So yes, it can be both.

 

[TheMightyVanHalen]

Interesting the claim of me changing the narrative when the thread was about Warner breaking down Dak's play and Moore's play design yet you introduced Rodgers.....so is that changing the narrative or just simple deflection?

I think my original comment was about Warner's breakdown and why he has so many videos of Dak playing badly and none of him playing good. That's why I called him a hater and mentioned Rodgers. It turned into an Aaron Rodgers argument after you or Swagger (Can't remember and I'm not going to waste my time in looking) came to the defense of THE Great Aaron "Generational QB" Rodgers.

I'll call it a simple deflection. Lol

Do you want to go back and argue the point I was trying to make about why do so-called Cowboys fans here make excuses for QB's like Carson Wentz, Matthew Stafford, Josh Allen, and ready for it?.. THE Great Aaron "Generational QB" Rodgers, but never make excuses for our own QB? I've ask this simple question to all you Cowboys haters but yet to get an honest answer. I know why I just want y'all to admit it.

 

[DC Cowboy]

After watching a good portion of it.

1) Several bad designed plays leaving Dak with no good options

2) Several good plays with recivers having great separation and Dak makes the worst choice possible

3) Plays starring down his first read where the second or even third option is open by miles.

4) Warner mentioned a few times he would like Dak to be more aggressive on some throws


Had a good mixture of everything. Seems to me the recievers are getting separation more often than not however Dak is struggling to read defenses correctly.

The first redzone breakdown was atrocious. Think it was the fitst. *** kind of play calling was that

i see your points. Moore, Dak, and WR's could use some outside help.

 

[BoysForLife]

Well it is basic logic. If the people who have consistently the worst takes on the board that are way more wrong than right think something, it is likely actually completely the opposite.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[jterrell]

heads are exploding right now.

this can't be. I read from a few *very reputable* Dak Davidians on here yesterday that the Cowboys offensive line was near the bottom of the league in pass pro?

what are we to make of this?

If you are going to keep posting this stupid stuff at least take the kid out of your avi so you don't embarrass him further.

Warner isn't insulting Dak in this review, and he goes to great length to explain that.
Then when he does critique, he lays blame all-around

These film reviews happen EVERY WEEK across all levels of football.

 

[FTWayne]

Pardon my most humble intrusion, but if you allow I have a question, oh great Guru.

I have read, from you and many others, in response to Dak criticism.... "The Cowboys have the most productive offense in the league since Dak's return!!!!"

You say it yet again in the post I quoted here.

So please help this ignorant hillbilly understand just how it is possible to achieve this with an imbecile at OC, a terrible o-line, and the "worst septation (sic) WR group in the NFL"?

It sounds like you (and others) are trying to tell us that Dak is solely responsible for the offensive productivity and has to overcome his terrible OC, terrible receivers and terrible O-line.

Now that just seems silly to me.

Can you help me out here? Educate me on what I'm missing?

I sure would appreciate it.

You just can't see all the trials and tribulations dak has to go through. Best offensive line, great TEs, running backs, and defense. No way any other quarterback can do what dak does. come on man.

 

[BoysForLife]

If you are going to keep posting this stupid stuff at least take the kid out of your avi so you don't embarrass him further.

Warner isn't insulting Dak in this review, and he goes to great length to explain that.
Then when he does critique, he lays blame all-around

These film reviews happen EVERY WEEK across all levels of football.

Yes, my son in his mud soaked uniform and helmet from about 4 years ago is terribly embarrassed. He can tell his counselor all about it someday.

But beyond that--you clearly didn't read my post. I was responding to a post about the Cowboys O line being top 5 in least sacks and pressures allowed. Go ahead, go back and look at the post you responded to. I linked the original post in my post. Just hit that little "click to expand" option..... Go ahead, only takes a second.....

the quote that got you so concerned about my son had absolutely zero to do with Warner's review of Dak. Zero.

Genuinely sad the lengths you Davidians will go to, in an effort to prop up this guy.
Also sad that a guy who describes himself as a "Penguinite" is worried about other people being embarrassed.

 

[FTWayne]

Yes, my son in his mud soaked uniform and helmet from about 4 years ago is terribly embarrassed. He can tell his counselor all about it someday.

But beyond that--you clearly didn't read my post. I was responding to a post about the Cowboys O line being top 5 in least sacks and pressures allowed. Go ahead, go back and look at the post you responded to. I linked the original post in my post. Just hit that little "click to expand" option..... Go ahead, only takes a second.....

the quote that got you so concerned about my son had absolutely zero to do with Warner's review of Dak. Zero.

Genuinely sad the lengths you Davidians will go to, in an effort to prop up this guy.
Also sad that a guy who describes himself as a "Penguinite" is worried about other people being embarrassed.

It's great that kids get to play the game in the mud. Great father.

 

[Ken]

Pot, meet kettle.

Uh huh.

I will put my ability to analyze any aspect of our team with anyone on this board. Have done so, consistently, for almost 20 years.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I take from this the same thing we all witnessed last year for the second half...the OC/QB/WR dont seem to be on the same page at all at times, its like all 3 see diferent things and are expecting diferent options. This to me goes back to the "Who's the audible problem" well once again this tape shows its all of them and again they spend all week preping to see this defense and once again it looks like they all were just thrown together Sunday morning to execute a gameplan...In this situation first spotlight should be on the Coach who's job it is to have everyone on the same page...then (which again is ridiculously unlikely) if its found the QB is trashing the play and going schoolyard everytime, you find a new QB.

 

[FTWayne]

It would be hard for any OC to call plays when the QB is going sandlot football and audibling out of the plays. Just an opinion and observation,

 

[Doomsday]

I take from this the same thing we all witnessed last year for the second half...the OC/QB/WR dont seem to be on the same page at all at times, its like all 3 see diferent things and are expecting diferent options. This to me goes back to the "Who's the audible problem" well once again this tape shows its all of them and again they spend all week preping to see this defense and once again it looks like they all were just thrown together Sunday morning to execute a gameplan...In this situation first spotlight should be on the Coach who's job it is to have everyone on the same page...then (which again is ridiculously unlikely) if its found the QB is trashing the play and going schoolyard everytime, you find a new QB.

This is kind of what I get from most of the breakdowns I watch of the offense.

I feel like they do not have the little details down needed to all get on the same page and it leads to a lot of inconsistency that we see.

Some of these are on the scheme, some are on the QB and some of it is on the WRs but in the end, it is on KM and ultimately Dak to get everyone in sync.

 

[CowboyFrog]

This is kind of what I get from most of the breakdowns I watch of the offense.

I feel like they do not have the little details down needed to all get on the same page and it leads to a lot of inconsistency that we see.

Some of these are on the scheme, some are on the QB and some of it is on the WRs but in the end, it is on KM and ultimately Dak to get everyone in sync.

Exactly

 

[Doomsday77]

I think it starts with no confidence in protection or the play calls. For some reason this year more than others it seems like he has no faith in the offensive line(rightfully so) and he's keying in on guys. But that's why its odd how he ended the Texans game. All of a sudden he went through reads and trusted his line.

There's too many variables and its resulting in inconsistent play.

I agree 1000%!! No confidence and no time to read progressions. What was different on the last drive on the OLine? A potential HOF'er, 38 years of age protecting him. I would have more confidence wouldn't you?

 

[BoysForLife]

It's great that kids get to play the game in the mud. Great father.

Somedays, my boys would agree with you.
other days, not so much..... LOL

That was a great day though. Both of my boys had mud in their teeth, ear holes, etc.
all the kids on both teams had a blast. Played in a driving rain. Covered head to toe in mud.