Warner Breakdown of Dak vs Houston

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TheHerd

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The first minute and half of monologue was one of the most interesting parts of the presentation to me. A HOF QB with a ring on his finger who breaks down this stuff on a professional basis has to spend that much time responding to the simpletons who just scream HATER at any criticism. It was absolutely clear he then softened things a bit to placate the emotionally driven.

I also noticed he most often said things like "we used to run this..." Or "most teams run this..."
That would indicate to most that Moore isn't reinventing any wheels, nor are most any other teams. He did say a couple times that a certain route in the combo was done differently, but he also put the onus on Dak to recognize what was occurring and quickly go to plan B.

I'd say the well meaning, constructive and accurate criticism he gave was split 90% Dak and 10% Moore.

And.... Lol at the notion that Dak doesn't, or at least shouldn't trust his o-line. What on earth are you watching?
I'd put more of a percentage on Moore, or the receivers, as he talked about influencing errors on almost every play. He said things like "I'd rathe this route run deeper, more in the middle, more on the left/right". Almost every play. Details he called them over and over. The lack of influencing safeties and linebackers is one reason so many of the passes are so contested and tipped. But yes, he also pointed out a lot of misses by Dak, and particularly the late reads and throws.
 

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dak trying to process the defense. dang, I think a fly flew down his throat.
 

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It is the OC job to explain to the QB how things are supposed to play out. You can’t design a play and just expect a QB to get all the nuances you planned in. I think Moore is playing checkers while Warner is explaining chess.

And you're making the assumption that Moore hasn't already done this.

Maybe Moore is playing Chess and the guy throwing the ball is playing checkers. It's at least a viable possibility.
Like I said how many bodies have to pile up covering for Dak's issues before people consider the possibility that it might be the guy with the ball in his hand who's the problem?
 

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All I said was I don’t think Dak trusts his line. It didn’t just start this year. Just my observation he gets happy feet at times when he shouldn’t.

then since you answered that way, instead of answering the actual questions posed which were:

When you watch the games are you seeing Dak under duress before having a chance to throw?

Did Kurt blame pressure in his breakdown? (I didn't watch it but I gather he didn't)

then what are we to make of your answer. If you're not seeing Dak under duress a majority of the time and Warner didn't blame pressure, then Dak needs to man up and trust his line and do his job. If he's getting happy feet while not under pressure, that's a QB problem. Not a line problem.
 

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Again, that's what Warner mentioned, as soon as he says something that may indicate Dak culpability (on any level), the Hater chant comes out.
we have one of the bottom 5 Pass win rate and pressure OL, you see that? daks being hit, under pressure, moves of fhis spot, KM has issues either with design or how the Wrs are running routes IE one of the worst septation groups in the nfl, and some how we ignore that..LOL

so there issues with the pass game that being ignored and dumped on Dak as usual.. also being hes 6-1 in his return and would be 7-0 had the defense not blown that GB lead and Hes impacted the total offense from bottom 5 to top 5.

NEXT ignorant narrative to bust??
 

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Since his return, he leads the league in INT's and is 30th in total passing yards. Those aren't narratives those are numbers. Their feelings aren't hurt and they aren't euphoric - they are just numbers that don't have opinions but as you put it - they do provide clarity.

Hey - right now Dak is fine - All is well!

But...I would keep that popcorn handy come January.
we have one of the bottom 5 Pass win rate and pressure OL, you see that? daks being hit, under pressure, moves of fhis spot, KM has issues either with design or how the Wrs are running routes IE one of the worst separation groups in the nfl, and somehow we ignore that..LOL again we see half those INTs are because of those issues i listed above, most can see are very obvious.

so there issues with the pass game that being ignored and dumped on Dak as usual.. also being hes 6-1 in his return and would be 7-0 had the defense not blown that GB lead and Hes impacted the total offense from bottom 5 to top 5 in many categories.

NEXT ignorant narrative to bust??
 

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I just find it funny that all of the consistently horrible posters on this board are also the biggest Dak bashers.

I feel like that is validation enough of Dak Prescott as a great QB. lol
 

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You have an odd fixation on Rodgers seen in multiple posts.

Bashing THE Great Aaron "Generational QB" Rodgers and sticking up for our QB should be accepted around here. But for some reason people like you will give THE Great Aaron "Generational QB" Rodgers a pass but will bash Dak at every opportunity you guys get. That only makes sense is if you hate the team you supposedly root for. :)
 

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It would be really helpful for KM as well. His understanding of route concepts and how to tweak a play to be more effective vs cover 2 or whatever they are running is impressive. He also shows how WRs can run their routes better in order to influence LBs and S to create better separation for other routes as well.
Agreed. This is on both Dak and KM. I think both have tunnel vision with their strategy forcing square pegs into round holes. Sometimes it does take a knowledgeable outside influence to shake it up for both to see/hear some honest constructive criticism. Our GM too worried about his Taj Maja revenues and radio shows to give it a second thought.
 

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I just find it funny that all of the consistently horrible posters on this board are also the biggest Dak bashers.

I feel like that is validation enough of Dak Prescott as a great QB. lol

So the thing that makes Dak a great QB is posters on a social media site criticizing him? That seems odd to me.
 

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I think there's a world of difference between 20/20 hindsight with freeze frames compared to live action with 5 seconds maximum. Although Kurt has lived the game real time, he sits in comfort, pondering the weaknesses of both the OC and quarterback. It's a good living, making well-reasoned critiques after rewinding the play multiple times, I'm sure. I don't fault Dak for overcoming the wrong play call to match the defense, and have 2 defenders closing fast, to make the single, most perfect decision without fail. Sure, this tape might help to be more accurate, but on the other hand, it might make Dak more hesitant too.
 

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Bashing THE Great Aaron "Generational QB" Rodgers and sticking up for our QB should be accepted around here. But for some reason people like you will give THE Great Aaron "Generational QB" Rodgers a pass but will bash Dak at every opportunity you guys get. That only makes sense is if you hate the team you supposedly root for. :)

I rarely speak on Rodgers because, well, he plays for GB but if you feel the need to compare Dak (a QB supposedly in his prime) to a legendary QB that clearly has declined based on age and offensive weapons (or lack thereof) then that is on you but keep doing what you do........I will await your comparison of Dak to Montana, Aikman, and YA Tittle next.
 

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I rarely speak on Rodgers because, well, he plays for GB but if you feel the need to compare Dak (a QB supposedly in his prime) to a legendary QB that clearly has declined based on age and offensive weapons (or lack thereof) then that is on you but keep doing what you do........I will await your comparison of Dak to Montana, Aikman, and YA Tittle next.

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Why am I not surprised? Since you changed the narrative I think you got my point because I think you're smart enough to have got it, you're just being silly. Although I could be wrong about you being smart enough. Am I?
 
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