Was Romo's Career "Wasted"?

[drawandstrike]

Interesting. Tony's ah..playoff record speaks for its self. When Prescott is done..he will make you forget all about Tony's puny playoff record.

Thus far Dak is 0-1 in the playoffs with the same head coach and owner/GM that Romo contended with for the past 6 years of his career.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If you mean championships are the only thing to measure a career - and I might agree - then you must ask did he do all he could to to win one.

The knee jerk reaction is he was the entire team. But the stats to me are like the make-up on the show girls in Vegas. it makes them pretty, but that doesn't change the fact it is a mirage.

Did Romo play to his potential? Yes, he did.

And in that light, his career was not wasted. All the other but it was the defense arguments are straw men in the big scheme of things. Romo did what he could do. Sometimes he failed because of talent around him. Sometimes because he was trying to do to much and carry the team. However, there were times, rare as they were, that he had enough talent to make a run, and did not.

But to answer the question the OP asked. No his career was not wasted. And personally I think he will still play this season for someone.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

That's fair, while it wouldn't be hard for him to outperform what Dak did, whether that turns into a win or not isn't a sure thing.

Are you sure about that?

Romo faced 7 "elimination games" in his career, 4 were playoff games and the other 3 were season-enders that could have gotten the Cowboys into the playoffs:

Comp Att Yards TDs Ints
2006 17 29 189 1 0
2007 18 36 201 1 1
2008 21 39 183 0 1
2009 22 35 198 0 1
2011 29 37 289 2 1
2012 20 37 218 2 3
2014 15 19 191 2 0

Totals: 142 232 1469 8 7

That's a per game average of :

20 Completions in 33 Attempts (61%) for 210 yards with a TD and a Pick.


In the 2016 playoff game vs. the Packers, Dak did this:

24 Completions in 38 Attempts (63%) for 302 yards with 3 TDs and 1 Pick.

Not only did Dak complete a higher percentage of passes than what Romo did over the course of his 7 elimination games, he threw for more yards than what Romo ever did in an elimination game, and Romo never threw for 3 TDs in an elimination game.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

No. He did the best he could. His reality is the totality of all the circumstances that made his career. For an undrafted rookie from Eastern Illinois to where he finished. I say hell no. I say he's tremendous success story.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Yes. The only team that Romo had that could legitimately compete for a SBs were the 13-3 team in 2006 and the 12-4 team in 2014, and both teams had average (and not SB quality) defenses.Tony's best chance was last year and he got injured.

 

[haleyrules]

Thus far Dak is 0-1 in the playoffs with the same head coach and owner/GM that Romo contended with for the past 6 years of his career.

The club really needs to upgrade the HC position to reach the final goal. Drafting has improved over the past 5 yrs and player development too. Prescott has better fundamentals and a high work ethic,if McClay and friends can stiffen up the Defense there is a chance the Cowboys will succeed. It could take another 2-3 years.

 

[NotForLong]

Let it go bro, what is done is done..................I personally think Romo should have been given his job back once he was healthy because I believe you do not lose your job to injury, but that is just me. I will say this...............

Anybody that though we were going to win a Championship with a rookie QB, a feat never done before in the NFL, was chugging the cool aid like crazy.

Your right and I have. Only because of the topic of this conversation being Wasted I thought I would throw it in.

 

[Kevinicus]

Are you sure about that?

Romo faced 7 "elimination games" in his career, 4 were playoff games and the other 3 were season-enders that could have gotten the Cowboys into the playoffs:

Comp Att Yards TDs Ints
2006 17 29 189 1 0
2007 18 36 201 1 1
2008 21 39 183 0 1
2009 22 35 198 0 1
2011 29 37 289 2 1
2012 20 37 218 2 3
2014 15 19 191 2 0

Totals: 142 232 1469 8 7

That's a per game average of :

20 Completions in 33 Attempts (61%) for 210 yards with a TD and a Pick.


In the 2016 playoff game vs. the Packers, Dak did this:

24 Completions in 38 Attempts (63%) for 302 yards with 3 TDs and 1 Pick.

Not only did Dak complete a higher percentage of passes than what Romo did over the course of his 7 elimination games, he threw for more yards than what Romo ever did in an elimination game, and Romo never threw for 3 TDs in an elimination game.

This is not accurate. Romo has played in 6 playoff games, not 4. It's funny that you eliminated the 2 playoff games the Cowboys won.

It's disingenuous to compare 1 game from Dak (against a team with a far worse defense than any of the others) to Romo's. And Romo has also had far more "elimination" games that he played great in, even if they weren't elimination games for the other team. When every moment is crucial, there are going to be failures, especially if you cherry pick.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

This is not accurate. Romo has played in 6 playoff games, not 4. It's funny that you eliminated the 2 playoff games the Cowboys won.

It's disingenuous to compare 1 game from Dak (against a team with a far worse defense than any of the others) to Romo's. And Romo has also had far more "elimination" games that he played great in, even if they weren't elimination games for the other team. When every moment is crucial, there are going to be failures, especially if you cherry pick.

You're right he did play in 6 playoff games.

But he played in 4 that he ultimately lost.

Hence 2 wins and 4 losses.

The fact remains that Romo was far worse in the elimination games he lost than the elimination game Prescott lost.

 

[Trouty]

You're right he did play in 6 playoff games.

But he played in 4 that he ultimately lost.

Hence 2 wins and 4 losses.

The fact remains that Romo was far worse in the elimination games he lost than the elimination game Prescott lost.

Or the "fact" could remain a bit more deeper than his numbers and rest on the team as a whole vs what Romo was working with, especially in those earlier elimination games. Maybe Romo was overcompensating for a horrid Oline and horrid D (not to say Dak's D last postseason wasn't equally horrid, and he did have a wonderful game). Romo had some nice postseason games, Mike.

Maybe you're right, maybe a bit of our failures under Romo can be attributed to him, but not this "half" hogwash. He had to carry an atrocious team for the majority of his career.

His career was wasted. Gosh, I wish Percy was here. He has some data specific to Romo's postseason success vs other QBs, as it correlates to a QB's D.

Wasted career.

 

[lostar2009]

Romo had his chances in 06, 07, 14 and who knows what would have happen in 2015 if he stayed healthy or those years he was hurt. The bottom line is he had a chance and didn't take full advantage of it. JJ has always given Romo a decent team and they field a mid level defense and a couple of years top 10. It also goes into a qb practicing his craft. You see what Dak is doing in the offseason now what did Romo do?

 

[Kevinicus]

You're right he did play in 6 playoff games.

But he played in 4 that he ultimately lost.

Hence 2 wins and 4 losses.

The fact remains that Romo was far worse in the elimination games he lost than the elimination game Prescott lost.

The last elimination game that Romo played in that the TEAM lost (Neither Romo or Prescott won or lost any game), he played much better than Dak.

 

[Kevinicus]

Romo had his chances in 06, 07, 14 and who knows what would have happen in 2015 if he stayed healthy or those years he was hurt. The bottom line is he had a chance and didn't take full advantage of it. JJ has always given Romo a decent team and they field a mid level defense and a couple of years top 10. It also goes into a qb practicing his craft. You see what Dak is doing in the offseason now what did Romo do?

Some of the worst defenses in NFL history = mid=level?

It is not up to the QB to "take full advantage." Why is the concept of this being a team game so difficult for people to understand?

 

[sean10mm]

Romo had his chances in 06, 07, 14

Brady had his realistic chances in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011,2012, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016.

He didn't "take full advantage" (by your logic) in 2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2013 and 2015.

Romo had his realistic chances in... 2007 and 2014? 2009 if you're generous? 2006 is a stretch IMO but whatever, the point remains the same.

That's the difference a great organization vs a clownshoes organization makes.

 

[JeffInDC]

Too soon for this discussion?

HELL YES!!!!!!!!!!. Had this discussion with a couple of my best buds this morning. Only once - 2009 - did Romo have a D that was Top 10 in both PPG & YPG allowed. Too may times the D ranked in the bottom half of the league, forcing Romo to carry the team on his back..........................the same back that led to his demise. Look at the luxury that Big Ben had in prime - that vaunted Steelers D. Eli had defenses that seemed to rise to the occasion in the biggest of games no matter were they ranked statistically. I could go on, but y'all get the point.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

The last elimination game that Romo played in that the TEAM lost (Neither Romo or Prescott won or lost any game), he played much better than Dak.

The 2014 game vs. the Packers (in the playoffs), Romo was 15 for 19 for 191 yards with 2 TD's. I do not see that being "much better" than Prescott's 2016 game vs. the Packers where he was 24 for 38 for 302 yards with 3 TD's and 1 pick.

 

[Coy]

Are you sure about that?

Romo faced 7 "elimination games" in his career, 4 were playoff games and the other 3 were season-enders that could have gotten the Cowboys into the playoffs:

Comp Att Yards TDs Ints
2006 17 29 189 1 0
2007 18 36 201 1 1
2008 21 39 183 0 1
2009 22 35 198 0 1
2011 29 37 289 2 1
2012 20 37 218 2 3
2014 15 19 191 2 0

Totals: 142 232 1469 8 7

That's a per game average of :

20 Completions in 33 Attempts (61%) for 210 yards with a TD and a Pick.


In the 2016 playoff game vs. the Packers, Dak did this:

24 Completions in 38 Attempts (63%) for 302 yards with 3 TDs and 1 Pick.

Not only did Dak complete a higher percentage of passes than what Romo did over the course of his 7 elimination games, he threw for more yards than what Romo ever did in an elimination game, and Romo never threw for 3 TDs in an elimination game.

If only the 2016 GB D would have been with the Giants and Viking in 2007, 2009 and 2011.

 

[Kevinicus]

The 2014 game vs. the Packers (in the playoffs), Romo was 15 for 19 for 191 yards with 2 TD's. I do not see that being "much better" than Prescott's 2016 game vs. the Packers where he was 24 for 38 for 302 yards with 3 TD's and 1 pick.

The difference is:

9 for 19 for 111 yds, 1 TD 1 INT (not to mention Romo should be 16 for 19 for 220+ and 2 TDs, at least).

 

[silver]

Was Dan Marino's?

Yes.

 

[Ranching]

Define wasted?

I'll put it in a sentence.. When the Cowboys lost to the Packers, I got wasted.