Was Romo's Career "Wasted"?

[LatinMind]

Still were much better than the GB defense, and were on the road in cold Seattle, as compared to at home in a comfortable dome. Not to mention Parcells coached scared and limited Romo that game.

So there are excuses for Romo's failures, but for a Rookie QB its just he lost period?

 

[MichaelWinicki]

So there are excuses for Romo's failures, but for a Rookie QB its just he lost period?

Of course.

Romo never had a 300 yard game in a losing effort for an elimination game. He never tossed 3 TD's in a losing effort for an elimination game. Dak did both of those things and gets no credit for it– He just lost and Romo would have done better if he had played. Romo never did either of those things and there are excuses galore– it was Parcells, or the opposing defense had too much talent or his underwear was too tight.

 

[DallasEast]

Let it go bro, what is done is done..................I personally think Romo should have been given his job back once he was healthy because I believe you do not lose your job to injury, but that is just me.

Don't believe you are the only person who has that philosophy because you aren't alone.

I will say this...............

Anybody that though we were going to win a Championship with a rookie QB, a feat never done before in the NFL, was chugging the cool aid like crazy.

There were many people--and there were literally many people--who should've strongly considered switching to Hawaiian Punch.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Too soon for this discussion?

Absolutely 100% wasted. Jerry and his horrid management and the horrid coaching of Wade and Garrett killed Romo's career. Romo is on of the unluckiest players I have ever seen. I was hoping he would get out of Dallas and win one like Ware did. But alas he decided to quit. I didnt take him for a quitter.

 

[Diehardblues]

None of that matters. 2 playoff wins. Our front office and captain clapper wasted his career by not getting him a good defense, and the dumb coach who ices his own kicker was learning how to coach when Romo could have won a ring on a handful of other teams with a decent front office and a good head coach that doesn't make some of the Dumbest decisions I've ever seen a coach make. His career was wasted. He was too good to retire without a ring.

He had a better defense when he took over. That 07 team was his best and should have played for a championship .

2014 had a shot too but not enough plays were made. Romo carried us but didnt have his best performances in critical games . He bears some responsibility as well when those windows were open.

If you want to point fingers.. blame Jerry for running Parcells off early then hiring Wade as HC and a very inexperienced OC then aborting rebuilding the defense and OL too late.

 

[DFWJC]

Are you sure about that?

Romo faced 7 "elimination games" in his career, 4 were playoff games and the other 3 were season-enders that could have gotten the Cowboys into the playoffs:

Comp Att Yards TDs Ints
2006 17 29 189 1 0
2007 18 36 201 1 1
2008 21 39 183 0 1
2009 22 35 198 0 1
2011 29 37 289 2 1
2012 20 37 218 2 3
2014 15 19 191 2 0

Totals: 142 232 1469 8 7

That's a per game average of :

20 Completions in 33 Attempts (61%) for 210 yards with a TD and a Pick.


In the 2016 playoff game vs. the Packers, Dak did this:

24 Completions in 38 Attempts (63%) for 302 yards with 3 TDs and 1 Pick.

Not only did Dak complete a higher percentage of passes than what Romo did over the course of his 7 elimination games, he threw for more yards than what Romo ever did in an elimination game, and Romo never threw for 3 TDs in an elimination game.

I'm not here to argue against Dak in any way (he was fine) and I'm in the camp that thinks the concept of elimination games is beyond moronic... but .....
Did you just only include the games they lost with Romo?
Why would you do that?

And do you really think those 2011 and 2012 teams were in the same universe as our 2014 and 2016 teams?

Anyway, even with the silly concept of lose and go home, you left out at least 3 games (2 playoff wins and week 15 in 2013) and 6 TDs, 1int, and about 800 yards...etc.

Anyway, Dak was fine

 

[Gator88]

So there are excuses for Romo's failures, but for a Rookie QB its just he lost period?

I first stated that Seattle's defense was better when compared to GB period, then added some context. If you have any excuses that could behoove Dak's performance other than being a rookie, go ahead.

I'm ignoring Dak being a rookie QB since that was known when they decided to go with him instead of Romo. Other than that and the defense being awful for the first half, Dak had it made and I can't think of a reason for him struggling for the first 2 and a half quarters. If there was something else, please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue to assume Romo could have done better against probably the worst passing defense to ever make the NFCCG, much like I assumed correctly Ryan would easily outplay what Dak did in the NFCCG.

 

[Sarek]

It's not so easy to say it was wasted. He was a undrafted player who became a starter and made many dollars doing it. Wasted would have been if he got cut his rookie season and never got another chance to play again.

 

[DallasEast]

Define wasted?

The omission of the definition has filled eleven pages (and counting) with many various personal perspectives. If a similar thread is created in the future about the topic, the OP should be more specific.

 

[phildadon86]

He also kept Garrett from being fired...........all those 8-8 seasons would have been 3-13 seasons without Romo doing his magic.

Also prevented us from getting rid of Garrett and picking in the top 10. Imagine the talent this team would have had for a new coach had Tony said, ive had enough of this red headed idiot

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Getting to the Super Bowl is the standard now?

Ooops! My mistake, old fellow.
In the recent past with Romo, on average, the new standard is a first-round playoffs win every 5 years.
My apologies, old man, what was I thinking!!!
I hope a fruit basket and tickets to the Mavs will smooth things over, ruddy fellow!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm not here to argue against Dak in any way (he was fine) and I'm in the camp that thinks the concept of elimination games is beyond moronic... but .....
Did you just only include the games they lost with Romo?
Why would you do that?

And do you really think those 2011 and 2012 teams were in the same universe as our 2014 and 2016 teams?

Anyway, even with the silly concept of lose and go home, you left out at least 3 games (2 playoff wins and week 15 in 2013) and 6 TDs, 1int, and about 800 yards...etc.

Anyway, Dak was fine

The intend was to include lost "elimination" games both participated in.

Moronic? Maybe.

But it was at least an attempt to introduce some kind of numbers into a typical "My QB is better than your QB" argument.

Wins were left out because...


They weren't losses?

 

[NotForLong]

I first stated that Seattle's defense was better when compared to GB period, then added some context. If you have any excuses that could behoove Dak's performance other than being a rookie, go ahead.

I'm ignoring Dak being a rookie QB since that was known when they decided to go with him instead of Romo. Other than that and the defense being awful for the first half, Dak had it made and I can't think of a reason for him struggling for the first 2 and a half quarters. If there was something else, please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue to assume Romo could have done better against probably the worst passing defense to ever make the NFCCG, much like I assumed correctly Ryan would easily outplay what Dak did in the NFCCG.

Beautiful post glad I am not the only one that saw it this way.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Ooops! My mistake, old fellow.

Old?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Old?

I meant most senior and wise personage.

 

[aria]

Yes. Been saying it for years. You have a great QB like Tony for a decade and only get 2 playoff wins out of it. It just makes me sick.

and how many fo those playoff losses or potential playoff games lost due to him? He had plenty of opportunity and blew it.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm ignoring Dak being a rookie QB since that was known when they decided to go with him instead of Romo. Other than that and the defense being awful for the first half, Dak had it made and I can't think of a reason for him struggling for the first 2 and a half quarters. If there was something else, please let me know, otherwise I'm going to continue to assume Romo could have done better against probably the worst passing defense to ever make the NFCCG, much like I assumed correctly Ryan would easily outplay what Dak did in the NFCCG.

Lot's of assumptions there...

2009 Dallas had the 6th best passing attack in the NFL and lost to Minnesota in the playoffs when Romo was 22 for 35 for a whole 198 yards and 1 pick.

Minnesota was 27th that season in passing defense based on QB rating, which was one place worse than Green Bay was this past season.

One shouldn't assume.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

and how many fo those playoff losses or potential playoff games lost due to him? He had plenty of opportunity and blew it.

That's exactly right.

They were team losses but he was just as average or even poor as the rest of the team in virtually every case when the team either lost a playoff game or the 3 games the team lost in the last week of the season that kept them from reaching the playoffs.

7 of those games Romo participated in and he averaged: 20 completions in 33 attempts for 210 yards with 1 TD and 1 pick.

Terrible numbers? No. But certainly not numbers that shown he was outplaying his teammates.

 

[Gator88]

Lot's of assumptions there...

2009 Dallas had the 6th best passing attack in the NFL and lost to Minnesota in the playoffs when Romo was 22 for 35 for a whole 198 yards and 1 pick.

Minnesota was 27th that season in passing defense based on QB rating, which was one place worse than Green Bay was this past season.

One shouldn't assume.

Yeah, that's why I was adding context. That Minnesota Vikings team was undefeated at home that season, and in their home games after their bye didn't give up more than 10 points once. Totally equivalent with playing the decimated Packers team at home this season with practically ther entire offense healthy.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah, that's why I was adding context. That Minnesota Vikings team was undefeated at home that season, and in their home games after their bye didn't give up more than 10 points once. Totally equivalent with playing the decimated Packers team at home this season with practically ther entire offense healthy.

How do you think Minny earned that 27th ranked pass defense?

You're just full of excuses. lol