Was there another passrusher available at #34

[Risen Star]

The good news is next year's draft class should be loaded with defensive linemen.

 

[waldoputty]

Preston Smith was drafted in 2015 and was a rookie last year

right, i meant you could get some decent pass rushers in previous drafts in the 2nd

 

[waldoputty]

wow dave is speechless.
here is your thanksgiving gift, your favorite:

 

[waldoputty]

The good news is next year's draft class should be loaded with defensive linemen.

i hope so, but teams are going to know to jump ahead of us to take any good DE if they prioritize one.

Here are early rankings:
RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND
1 Jonathan Allen DE -------------1 ------Alabama ---Sr ---6-3 291 1 ------ long gone
3 Myles Garrett DE ---------------2 Texas A&M -----Jr---- 6-4 268 1 ------long gone
18 Derek Barnett DE ------------3 Tennessee ------Jr---- 6-3 265 1 ------long gone
25 Carl Lawson DE --------------4 Auburn ------------Jr---- 6-2 253 1 ----a few project him
28 Charles Harris DE -----------5 Missouri ----------rJr--- 6-3 255 1
33 Solomon Thomas DE ------6 Stanford ---------rSo --6-2 275 1-2
46 Taco Charlton DE -----------7 Michigan ---------Sr ----6-5 272 2
53 Dawuane Smoot DE -------8 Illinois ------------Sr ----6-3 255 2-- many project him
66 DeMarcus Walker DE ------9 Florida State ----Sr ----6-2 273 2-3
74 Harold Landry DE---------- 10 Boston College Jr ---6-3 250 2-3

 

[Verdict]

This is not a Jaylon Smith discussion.
After Commanders roasting our D today with 0 sacks, it is obvious what we are missing is obvious an edge rusher (or 2).
Some suggested drafting edge rusher at our slot in round 2 of 2016 draft.

Lets analyze where the DEs were picked and how they performed this season.
Other than Spence (character risk), no one else was available at #34 that was highly rated by most scouts.

Here are the DEs picked between Jaylon and Maliek Collins:
1. Noah Spence - character risk - 4 sacks - he was not on their leaked draft board
2. Kamalei Correa - 0 sacks, enough said
3. Jihad Ward - 0 sacks, enough said
4. Carl Nassib - 1.5 sacks, enough said

Here are who was picked between Maliek and Tapper:
1. Ngakoue, Yannick - 5 sacks, but apparently not on their draft board. Furthermore, if they liked him, they could have taken him instead of Maliek. DE was the first priority, not DT given that we were trying to pick Ogbah over Jaylon smith.
2. Shilique Calhoun - 0,5 sacks, enough said.

They choose Tapper over all remaining edge rushers.

I really think Tapper would be contributing if he were healthy.

 

[LocimusPrime]

 

[waldoputty]

I really think Tapper would be contributing if he were healthy.

how did he do in preseason, if anything?

 

[waldoputty]

loci, be good, no butter, use olive oil like a good dave

 

[LocimusPrime]

loci, be good, no butter, use olive oil like a good dave

Lol will do bro!

 

[waldoputty]

Lol will do bro!

dave needed more instruction, but you are being good

 

[BlueStar22]

The pass rush yesterday was pretty good for a half. Cousins got hit at least five times. Just not getting there as quickly as needed. It needs more consistency.

 

[darthseinfeld]

We were going to take Ogbah but he went before us. So, no there wasn't anyone graded in that spot when we picked.

Dodd as well. It was like the 20145 draft where 2 HB targets (Allen and Davis went right before our 4th round pick

 

[Hardline]

i hope so, but teams are going to know to jump ahead of us to take any good DE if they prioritize one.

Here are early rankings:
RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND
1 Jonathan Allen DE -------------1 ------Alabama ---Sr ---6-3 291 1 ------ long gone
3 Myles Garrett DE ---------------2 Texas A&M -----Jr---- 6-4 268 1 ------long gone
18 Derek Barnett DE ------------3 Tennessee ------Jr---- 6-3 265 1 ------long gone
25 Carl Lawson DE --------------4 Auburn ------------Jr---- 6-2 253 1 ----a few project him
28 Charles Harris DE -----------5 Missouri ----------rJr--- 6-3 255 1
33 Solomon Thomas DE ------6 Stanford ---------rSo --6-2 275 1-2
46 Taco Charlton DE -----------7 Michigan ---------Sr ----6-5 272 2
53 Dawuane Smoot DE -------8 Illinois ------------Sr ----6-3 255 2-- many project him
66 DeMarcus Walker DE ------9 Florida State ----Sr ----6-2 273 2-3
74 Harold Landry DE---------- 10 Boston College Jr ---6-3 250 2-3

Myles Garrett should be ahead of Allen on that list . Garrett will be the first player taken. Allen will be a top 5 pick though.

 

[xwalker]

i hope so, but teams are going to know to jump ahead of us to take any good DE if they prioritize one.

Here are early rankings:
RANK PLAYER POS. POS. RANK SCHOOL CLASS HT. WT. PROJ. ROUND
1 Jonathan Allen DE -------------1 ------Alabama ---Sr ---6-3 291 1 ------ long gone
3 Myles Garrett DE ---------------2 Texas A&M -----Jr---- 6-4 268 1 ------long gone
18 Derek Barnett DE ------------3 Tennessee ------Jr---- 6-3 265 1 ------long gone
25 Carl Lawson DE --------------4 Auburn ------------Jr---- 6-2 253 1 ----a few project him
28 Charles Harris DE -----------5 Missouri ----------rJr--- 6-3 255 1
33 Solomon Thomas DE ------6 Stanford ---------rSo --6-2 275 1-2
46 Taco Charlton DE -----------7 Michigan ---------Sr ----6-5 272 2
53 Dawuane Smoot DE -------8 Illinois ------------Sr ----6-3 255 2-- many project him
66 DeMarcus Walker DE ------9 Florida State ----Sr ----6-2 273 2-3
74 Harold Landry DE---------- 10 Boston College Jr ---6-3 250 2-3

Trade Romo for a 1st then trade both 1st round picks to move up for Myles Garrett.

 

[xwalker]

This is not a Jaylon Smith discussion.
After Commanders roasting our D today with 0 sacks, it is obvious what we are missing is obvious an edge rusher (or 2).
Some suggested drafting edge rusher at our slot in round 2 of 2016 draft.

Lets analyze where the DEs were picked and how they performed this season.
Other than Spence (character risk), no one else was available at #34 that was highly rated by most scouts.

Here are the DEs picked between Jaylon and Maliek Collins:
1. Noah Spence - character risk - 4 sacks - he was not on their leaked draft board
2. Kamalei Correa - 0 sacks, enough said
3. Jihad Ward - 0 sacks, enough said
4. Carl Nassib - 1.5 sacks, enough said

Here are who was picked between Maliek and Tapper:
1. Ngakoue, Yannick - 5 sacks, but apparently not on their draft board. Furthermore, if they liked him, they could have taken him instead of Maliek. DE was the first priority, not DT given that we were trying to pick Ogbah over Jaylon smith.
2. Shilique Calhoun - 0,5 sacks, enough said.

They choose Tapper over all remaining edge rushers.

It is odd that Spence was off their board but that Randy Gregory was not the previous year.

Both Gregory and Jaylon Smith were riskier picks than Spence.

 

[waldoputty]

The pass rush yesterday was pretty good for a half. Cousins got hit at least five times. Just not getting there as quickly as needed. It needs more consistency.

The blitz schemes were working far better in their first 2 drives.
Then not sure what happened.
It seems we got burned a couple times when blitz then went to prevent.
On the long TD, it seemed very possible that Skins would have gone long on that down because they needed only 1 yard.

 

[waldoputty]

It is odd that Spence was off their board but that Randy Gregory was not the previous year.

Both Gregory and Jaylon Smith were riskier picks than Spence.

I think they decided to stay off character risks after Hardy and Gregory problems.
Unless the risk reward was far more in favor.

 

[xwalker]

Watch us fleece Chicago or JAX for their 1st and 3rd rounder.

I expect 2 DL in the 2nd and 3rd round this year, after we use Chicago's first on Jabril Peppers.

How?

Will they trade for Romo?

 

[Don Corleone]

We were going to take Ogbah but he went before us. So, no there wasn't anyone graded in that spot when we picked.

I bet Ogbah would like to change his fortunes if he had a time machine.

 

[waldoputty]

I bet Ogbah would like to change his fortunes if he had a time machine.

i guessed he could have posted a picture on twitter with a bong...
but that is serious money...