Washington is great example how quickly Cowboys could turn it around

[MountaineerCowboy]

We don’t even need a new owner or new GM

The one we have needs to open up his wallet and spend money….

You know Dern well Dak needs weapons if you want to have him as the starter so GET WEAPONS!

Oh stop with the "Dak needs weapons" junk.

He's had weapons his entire career.

In fact, he's had so many weapons here that anywhere else he would have been exposed much sooner and would be selling cars back around the Mississippi State campus today.

 

[Big_D]

It’s a great example of how a team that isn’t the Cowboys could turn it around. Washington took all the right steps which started with ownership hiring quality personnel and staying out of the way. They wouldn’t be in a championship game if Magic Johnson appointed himself gm.

 

[Proof]

All it took was new ownership, new leadership in FO, coaching and of course insert of talent and top drafted QB.

Lions turned it around as well but it took a couple more years.

Washington’s turn around in one season is the new standard but exemplifies it can be done . But major changes are needed from the top down.

lol so just change every important aspect of the team and hope you hit on all of them? sounds good!

 

[Diehardblues]

Cool.

Have fun getting what you deserve from a Dak led team.

It is what it is. When Dak is healthy we are better than half the league which aren’t in the playoffs.

Would I rather have a greater QB like most in the playoffs this year. Of course!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

It is what it is. When Dak is healthy we are better than half the league which aren’t in the playoffs.

Dak fans gonna be Dak fans.

 

[TWOK11]

There's bad takes and then there's this.

It's crazy how some of ya'll refuse to let go.

There’s blind emotion, and there’s hard data

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s a great example of how a team that isn’t the Cowboys could turn it around. Washington took all the right steps which started with ownership hiring quality personnel and staying out of the way. They wouldn’t be in a championship game if Magic Johnson appointed himself gm.

Yep. I think some are misreading my point in this thread. It’s obvious that we won’t be taking the necessary steps to turn it around even if we know it’s possible if we did.

 

[fivetwos]

I’ll save you all the suspense (spoiler alert)…

Fast forward a couple of weeks to Mobile. Super Scout Jerry there with the stopwatch around his neck with the mesh ball cap.

His loyal football and cap genius son next to him is asked about free agency. His response….”Well we have a lot to look at. We have Parsons coming up, Smith to think about….”

That’s about exactly what he will say, and in other words they will bring back what everyone knows isn’t good enough and try to sell it yet again.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

There’s blind emotion, and there’s hard data

I need to see this "hard data" you speak of so I can eviscerate it with hard data of my own.

 

[Cowboys5217]

There’s blind emotion, and there’s hard data

Hard data such as Dak's playoff record?

Yeah, this ain't it, chief.

 

[vlad]

All it took was new ownership, new leadership in FO, coaching and of course insert of talent and top drafted QB.

Lions turned it around as well but it took a couple more years.

Washington’s turn around in one season is the new standard but exemplifies it can be done . But major changes are needed from the top down.

How much value do you put into Daniels? He's not exactly replicable - last night cemented to me unless the put some tesla parts in Dak's legs, we're trending to the basement. Hope I'm wildly wrong of course.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak fans gonna be Dak fans.

I’m a fan for all of the Dallas Cowboys.

Would I rather have greater talent at many positions . Of course !!

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

Hard data such as Dak's playoff record?

Yeah, this ain't it, chief.

Dak's playoff record?

You mean the worst QB playoff record of all time for a QB with at least 5 playoff starts?

That kind of hard data?

 

[Diehardblues]

How much value do you put into Daniels? He's not exactly replicable - last night cemented to me unless the put some tesla parts in Dak's legs, we're trending to the basement. Hope I'm wildly wrong of course.

Dak is definitely trending down.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I’m a fan for all of the Dallas Cowboys.

Would I rather have greater talent at many positions . Of course !!

Dak fans aren't Cowboys fans.

Cowboys fans want to win.

Dak fans just want to watch Dak play.

 

[Big_D]

Yep. I think some are misreading my point in this thread. It’s obvious that we won’t be taking the necessary steps to turn it around even if we know it’s possible if we did.

Those steps could have and should have been taken a long time ago if the owner really wanted to win as much as he says he does! It’s a sad state, lapped by another team.

 

[JBS]

All it took was new ownership, new leadership in FO, coaching and of course insert of talent and top drafted QB.

Lions turned it around as well but it took a couple more years.

Washington’s turn around in one season is the new standard but exemplifies it can be done . But major changes are needed from the top down.

All it takes is a miracle. Yeah , you aren’t asking for much. Just a miracle

 

[Cowboys5217]

Dak fans aren't Cowboys fans.

Cowboys fans want to win.

Dak fans just want to watch Dak play.

I think their favorite activity is making excuses for Dak.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak fans aren't Cowboys fans.

Cowboys fans want to win.

Dak fans just want to watch Dak play.

Winning championships isnt a real possibility with the Cowboys as long as our owner undermines the organization.

Dak is a product of that dysfunctional mechanism not the cause .

Don’t confuse with me with Dak Homers cause I take on the Dak Haters. I take on the Homers too which I was doing in initial post you responded to.

 

[TWOK11]

It’s purely a subjective assessment. And I’m not a detractor or homer believing he’s in upper half of the league enough to have more success with a better team around him but better than half of the playoff QB’s this year appears to be a stretch so I thought I’d list them to take a closer look in no particular order.

Goff
Stafford
Love
Hurts
Daniels
Darnold
Baker
Mahomes
Allen
Jackson
Wilson
Herbert
Nix
Stroud

I’d say there are maybe a handful I’d rather have than Dak. And that’s being generous.

Now I’d rather have Dak than half of the league which includes all of the teams who didn’t make the playoffs but not more than half in the playoffs.

And I’m not sure many would make that argument . I’d like to see the list of playoff QB’s you’d rather not have over Dak.

We’ll start with the ones for whom there is simply no rational argument for taking over Dak at present:

Darnold
Baker
Wilson

Now that we’ve dispensed with those, here are the ones for whom Dak has been objectively better than by all or virtually all relevant statistical metrics for years but some will mindlessly try and argue for:

Goff
Herbert
Hurts
Stafford

That’s 7 already, which alone justifies my post as I said Dak is better than half the field.

But to further the point, of the remaining 7, 4 are players who haven’t done anything bough on the field yet to be called better than Dak but that who could absolutely be argued for on the basis of potential and trajectory:

Nix
Stroud
Daniels
Love

In other words, only 3 of the 14 QBs in this years field are clearly and inarguably better than Dak on the basis of production and efficiency in the league to date.