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Bob Sacamano;1955450 said:
we didn't say it was a bad idea, we just shot down your guy's typical overglorification of every signing the Commanders make
I think most said that Smoot was a solid signing, good for a nickel. Guess what, he turned out to be a solid signing. You guys acted like it was a toss-up between him and Glenn, which would be an underglorification.

Sure, just like every other fanbase, there are those who think player X is the guy who will elevate us to perennial contender, but they don't represent the majority.
 

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firehawk350;1955560 said:
I think most said that Smoot was a solid signing, good for a nickel. Guess what, he turned out to be a solid signing. You guys acted like it was a toss-up between him and Glenn, which would be an underglorification.

Sure, just like every other fanbase, there are those who think player X is the guy who will elevate us to perennial contender, but they don't represent the majority.
No more then the guys that said Lloyd was a better WR than Terry Glenn, Talk about Underglorification!.
 

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silverbear;1955494 said:
And how many of them were position coaches for ten years??

Sparano and Marinelli spent 9 years as a position coach. Ried and Edwards spent 8.



silverbear;1955494 said:
Uhhh, no, he hasn't... except in the media...

So Jones made him the highest paid OC in the league for what then??? No wait, if you can only pick one question to answer, answer this... Do you like being wrong, is it an obsession for you?



silverbear;1955494 said:
And they were 20th in 2006, 13th in 2005, 13th again in 2004... meaning over the last 4 years, their average passing offense rating has been 13th-14th...

Okay, there a couple of problems with your "analysis". First off, who exactly does Matt Hasselbeck have to throw to and how is that any way an indictment of Zorn? Somebody has to pass, and somebody has to catch. They don't exactly have great receivers. Secondly, in 2006, Hasselbeck suffered an MCL sprain. His production obviously suffered because of it (it was the only time in the past 3 years his QB rating has been below 90). Thirdly, Hasselbeck has made the pro-bowl 2 times out of the last 3 years and was named all-pro in 2005, all from a 6th rounder. Hasselbeck said that he wouldn't be the same QB if it wasn't for Zorn. I think it's safe to say that Zorn knows how to run a passing attack.
 

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silverbear;1955494 said:
And how many of them were position coaches for ten years??

Andy Reid -- 7 years
Herm Edwards -- 9 years
Rod Marinelli -- 9 years

Sparano hadn't stayed with one team for more the 4 years, and Harbaugh doesn't even have his own Wikipedia page! (kidding about that part!)

At the time of their hire, especially Reid, they were roundly criticized for their lack of experience.

silverbear;1955494 said:
Uhhh, no, he hasn't... except in the media...

Agree to disagree here -- I've seen it reported a number of times. And fans here have dubbed him the next HC as well.

silverbear;1955494 said:
And they were 20th in 2006, 13th in 2005, 13th again in 2004... meaning over the last 4 years, their average passing offense rating has been 13th-14th...

Sounds pretty mediocre to me...

Of course it does. Everything the Commanders do is mediocre to you. I'd be wasting my time to convince you otherwise. But maybe, that had more to do with the OC then it did the QB coach. I think Matt Hasselbeck turned out to be a pretty good QB. And he's raved about the coach Jim Zorn is. So, while I am maintaining my "we'll see" stance, that at least gives me hope that he is a better choice then what was available.

silverbear;1955494 said:
Only in Danny Boy's fertile, fevered brain is Jim Zorn considered some kind of offensive guru... LOL...

No one had dubbed him an "offensive guru"

silverbear;1955494 said:
I'd be surprised if he wants to, but at the same time, I'm dead morally certain that the reason Snyder went with an outsider was in the hope that he could woo The
Chin next season...

We'll see what happens. I do think Snyder learned some modicum of patience from Gibbs.

silverbear;1955494 said:
Yup-- if he wins a Super Bowl for Jerry...

Wade is a place-holder. Most anyone that looks objectively at the Cowboys sees that.
 

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Yeah, well I don't think you'd find a Skins fan that won't admit he's wrong there. Then again, is this the same Terry Glenn that caught 2 passes for you in 07? I don't recall many people saying he'd be terry glenn either though...
 

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firehawk350;1955560 said:
I think most said that Smoot was a solid signing, good for a nickel. Guess what, he turned out to be a solid signing. You guys acted like it was a toss-up between him and Glenn, which would be an underglorification.

Sure, just like every other fanbase, there are those who think player X is the guy who will elevate us to perennial contender, but they don't represent the majority.

then what the frick are you arguing about? those are the people I'm talking about, if you were level-headed and thought re-signing Smoot was just a solid signing, them more power to you, just don't act like there wasn't overglorification going on

firehawk350;1955723 said:
Yeah, well I don't think you'd find a Skins fan that won't admit he's wrong there. Then again, is this the same Terry Glenn that caught 2 passes for you in 07? I don't recall many people saying he'd be terry glenn either though...

how quickly you forget, there was a huge debate over who was better

the point is that you guys messed up w/ the Lloyd signing, and you guys suck

both true
 

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I personally would take Chad alot of you Cowboy fan didn't want T.O. now your all happy with the results so far (I know he is a drama queen) but we're winning and if we had another speed reciever WHO I repeat WHO could possibly stop us!!!
 

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killdaskins;1956089 said:
I personally would take Chad alot of you Cowboy fan didn't want T.O. now your all happy with the results so far (I know he is a drama queen) but we're winning and if we had another speed reciever WHO I repeat WHO could possibly stop us!!!

having all the speed of Welker, Dante, and Moss really did a lot for the Pats in the Superbowl. So I'm going to say that the Giants, with a game plan like they had, could. :p

But that would just be me being argumenative. I like Chad. I'd be thrilled to have Chad here. The simple fact is that Chad won't be here, or anywhere other than Cincy, and it's time people just moved on from that.
 
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