Watkins: Cowboys are in rebuilding mode

[davey999]

Honest question: any chance for a bunch of empty seats at the stadium this year?

 

[jobberone]

This is a step forward for Jerry. I think he's deathly afraid of cutting his stars because they are the only thing keeping a lot of fans interested and he has a tough time drafting new ones. He did hedge his bets though with Romo,, and what a hedge that was. A giant contract to a player who would only be around for a few years on a team that is at least a few years from contention. Sure looked like a business decision to me,,, somebody's got to pay for that stadium.

Looking forward I'd say they had better get a single, focused plan and run with it,,, no more collective, disjointed, patched together strategies from transient coaches passing through and assorted sycophants on the payroll.

I think Jerry is a loyalty guy and has had trouble cutting ties with players. I don't think Jerry the GM thinks about seats and money other than cap money. He's shown he'll spend the bucks. Jerry the owner isn't afraid of selling seats either. If we dip into the Netherlands for long enough then yes but the likelihood of that happening is low.

 

[jobberone]

Jones is incapable of even getting his arms around the thought of a rebuild. The last time that was done, he hired Parcells to do it for him.

Every year is a rebuild year. He's had trouble cutting ties in the past to aging players but everyone is constantly looking to fill holes. How many you have and how you fill them is one key.

 

[OhSnap]

Every year is a rebuild year. He's had trouble cutting ties in the past to aging players but everyone is constantly looking to fill holes. How many you have and how you fill them is one key.

A few years of bad drafting will do that to ya.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Let me try an answer that:
Defense - We probably can't be worse than last year but it's hard to see them being much better, we lost our 2 best defensive players from 2013 and you can almost be sure Lee and Mo will miss a couple of games each, plus it's safe to say you will have other injuries, maybe not as much as in 2013 but we will sure have them.

Offense - this was a healthy bunch, our O line was good to very good, our WR were very good to great (Dez was a beast) T Will and Cole, you know what you get from Witten year ina nd year out, Romo had a great year (31 td's and 10 Int's), Demarco had the best year of his carreer and our ST were one of the best in the league. This year we have Romo at 34 with another back surgery, Witten a year older, you can bet someone will get hurt ( we were really lucky on offense last year)

HC - we know what we have in Garrett, his game management is really bad and he will probably lose you 2 games a year, we have that proof, we don't even know who the coordinators are, what's Callahan's job? What's Kiffin's job? It's anybodys guess? It's all a mess.

Just my two cents, hope I'm wrong

Defense - we will be better. Losing our best 2 defensive players won't big as much of an impact as you think. Exactly how many big plays did either make the last 8 games of the year?

Offense and special teams are fine with the exception of play calling. Hopefully Garrett got smarter. For someone to say they precited 5-11 or 6-10 for next year but now that might be optimistic is unbelievable IMO.

 

[Risen Star]

Honest question: any chance for a bunch of empty seats at the stadium this year?

Not a chance.

 

[jobberone]

A few years of bad drafting will do that to ya.

I remember someone doing an analysis of the last ten drafts or so and the hit rate. I've forgotten what it said. I posted a link and a chart to a curve that plotted the failure rate of each round. I think I remember 3-4 being around 50% for the player contributing. I think that was by the third year but I'm fuzzy about that.

The take home lesson is there is a hyperbolic curve with success regressing over each round. Obtaining talent on the cheap...read draft....is a must in today's NFL. You have limited success retaining stars who deserve 2nd and third contracts.

 

[theSHOW]

water is wet

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[davey999]

Not a chance.

Too bad.

 

[OhSnap]

I remember someone doing an analysis of the last ten drafts or so and the hit rate. I've forgotten what it said. I posted a link and a chart to a curve that plotted the failure rate of each round. I think I remember 3-4 being around 50% for the player contributing. I think that was by the third year but I'm fuzzy about that.

The take home lesson is there is a hyperbolic curve with success regressing over each round. Obtaining talent on the cheap...read draft....is a must in today's NFL. You have limited success retaining stars who deserve 2nd and third contracts.

Youve probably heard it but theres an interview I like with Jerry talkin about Larry Brown and picking in the 12th round. He says "If someone tells you they're doin the same research on those rounds as they are the early rounds they're being less than honest with you" I don't believe and I pray that philosophy isn't applied to a 7 rd draft but there is most likely some kind of drop off since they only scout X number of players. I read this article last year and it's pretty much dead on with judging GM's and how successful teams are over the long haul. Basically if your GM has had 3-4 good years in the draft brace yourself for the next few years.

http://www.footballperspective.com/are-certain-teams-better-at-drafting-than-others/

 

[SDCowboy]

Honest question: any chance for a bunch of empty seats at the stadium this year?

Nope likely. They're still the Cowboys and Romo, Dez and Witten are still playing.

 

[yaswaggin]

as an eagles fan, the cowboys are still the team that scares me the most in the division. Romo is still a top 10 QB, and monte kiffin knows how to blitz effectively against chip's offense.

i think the cowboys have as good as a shot to win the division as anyone else, it's a wide open division again because everyone's defense is trash

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

as an eagles fan, the cowboys are still the team that scares me the most in the division. Romo is still a top 10 QB, and monte kiffin knows how to blitz effectively against chip's offense.

i think the cowboys have as good as a shot to win the division as anyone else, it's a wide open division again because everyone's defense is trash

With the worst defense in the league, we have no chance at the division title.

 

[jobberone]

Youve probably heard it but theres an interview I like with Jerry talkin about Larry Brown and picking in the 12th round. He says "If someone tells you they're doin the same research on those rounds as they are the early rounds they're being less than honest with you" I don't believe and I pray that philosophy isn't applied to a 7 rd draft but there is most likely some kind of drop off since they only scout X number of players. I read this article last year and it's pretty much dead on with judging GM's and how successful teams are over the long haul. Basically if your GM has had 3-4 good years in the draft brace yourself for the next few years.

http://www.footballperspective.com/are-certain-teams-better-at-drafting-than-others/

It's nearly impossible for a player to come out of nowhere these days. I don't know but I suspect it's a problem getting thru all that data. They cut the draft off so it would fit TV and you could get those lower round players even cheaper. But today they still get picked over well. We seem to do well with UDFAs.

 

[Bluefin]

Defense - we will be better. Losing our best 2 defensive players won't big as much of an impact as you think. Exactly how many big plays did either make the last 8 games of the year?

There's an article up on BTB looking at the snap counts of the 2013 Cowboys DL and comparing it to the Rams, Patriots and Seahawks.

It also looks at how the team's points allowed suffered in the third and fourth quarters of game.

Dallas was overly reliant on its starters for multiple reasons and St. Louis and New England were, too.

Meanwhile, Seattle had a heavy 7 player rotation up front.

That's what the Cowboys want to develop.

How many pieces can be added in one off-season?

 

[BourbonBalz]

Why? I'm serious.

Because we had the worst defense in the entire league last season and it will probably be worse this coming season.

 

[BourbonBalz]

Because we had the worst defense in the entire league last season and it will probably be worse this coming season.

Not to mention Romo is getting old and coming off back surgery, and Witten is also getting up there in football years. For this team to have any success, the offense will have to carry them. I'm not sure they can.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Let me try an answer that:
Defense - We probably can't be worse than last year but it's hard to see them being much better, we lost our 2 best defensive players from 2013 and you can almost be sure Lee and Mo will miss a couple of games each, plus it's safe to say you will have other injuries, maybe not as much as in 2013 but we will sure have them.

Offense - this was a healthy bunch, our O line was good to very good, our WR were very good to great (Dez was a beast) T Will and Cole, you know what you get from Witten year ina nd year out, Romo had a great year (31 td's and 10 Int's), Demarco had the best year of his carreer and our ST were one of the best in the league. This year we have Romo at 34 with another back surgery, Witten a year older, you can bet someone will get hurt ( we were really lucky on offense last year)

HC - we know what we have in Garrett, his game management is really bad and he will probably lose you 2 games a year, we have that proof, we don't even know who the coordinators are, what's Callahan's job? What's Kiffin's job? It's anybodys guess? It's all a mess.

Just my two cents, hope I'm wrong

Nice break down.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Defense - we will be better. Losing our best 2 defensive players won't big as much of an impact as you think. Exactly how many big plays did either make the last 8 games of the year?

Offense and special teams are fine with the exception of play calling. Hopefully Garrett got smarter. For someone to say they precited 5-11 or 6-10 for next year but now that might be optimistic is unbelievable IMO.

As Spags has said, 19 of our 36 sacks just walked out the door in Ware and Hatch.

Thinking a pair of rookies or some free agent scrubs are going to tandem together for 19 sacks is overly optimistic. Don't see how anybody can say right now we will be better, even Spags admitted to a caller that the team is worse right now, not better.

 

[big dog cowboy]

even Spags admitted to a caller that the team is worse right now, not better.

It is. But the games don't begin until Sept last I checked.