Watkins: Ware will restructure

[tm1119]

I see him as both DE and DT1 Valuable player , as the defensive front rotates players in through the game it is so nice to have a guy who can move over a bit. Especially if #94 is out again on some new ailment.

I can also see crawford moving inside on definite passing plays, but a 1 Tech is a guy who only plays 1 gap and is primarily a run stuffer. That is in no way shape or form Tyrone Crawford.

 

[visionary]

Restructuring and guaranteeing him more money in the future is about the stupidest thing in the world that I can think of.

Please nobody respond and say "that's exactly why Jerry will do it." We are better than that.

Agree 100% but that is exactly what Jerry will do because he wants to be a friend to the players
As much as Jerry says that there are advantages to his being owner/GM , this us a huge disadvantage
Ware should not be restructured, he needs to take a very significant pay cut or released

 

[BoysFan4ever]

So they restructure his contract & then what? They have to pay the piper somewhere down the road.

Either take a pay cut or be released. I agree with that. He was breaking down big time this year.

 

[Risen Star]

Maybe what you should learn is how to comprehend what you read. I said Dallas would need a SDE 3tech and depth just on the DL alone. Crawford and Bass are going to compete for the 1tech thats a given. Team was insanely high on Bass. You people view this team and go by your wants. I read too much info on the Cowboys and try to base my opinions on what the Cowboys have and how the coaches feel about these players. Its clear this staff like Ware, Crawford, Bass, Selvie. They are going to be a core going into 2014. Ware is going to start on the weakside, thats obvious. Crawford IMO from what i read and hear on radio from people in valley ranch is that Crawford will go into 2014 the fav to be that 1 tech they wanted this yr. They dont want no big wide body to clog up a middle. They want a strong DT that can get off the ball and fill a gap in a run game, and get up the middle in a passing down. to give you an example, they wanted Hatcher to be that 1tech. And if Ratliff wouldve played he wouldve been that 1tech and Rat the 3tech. Thats why Hatcher almost asked to be traded. Bass had everybody turning their heads and had hatcher telling the media in TC that Bass would probably be the reason he wouldnt be in Dallas in 2014.

You have me excited.

Tell me more about this Ware-Crawford-Bass-Selvie core. It's an embarrassment of riches.

Hey, do you think we'll get Lance Dunbar back?

 

[TheDude]

You have me excited.

Tell me more about this Ware-Crawford-Bass-Selvie core. It's an embarrassment of riches.

Hey, do you think we'll get Lance Dunbar back?

All I know is Matt Johnson is back, and after his first preseason tackle, we will be set for the next 10 years.

 

[Risen Star]

All I know is Matt Johnson is back, and after his first preseason tackle, we will be set for the next 10 years.

Worst case scenario is all we need is some camp bodies at S. The coaches are high on Matt Johnson and I read a lot of stuff.

 

[dragon_mikal]

This isn't really news...most of you should have seen this coming from a mile away.

Jerry was never going to cut Ware and Ware stated that he wasn't going to take a pay cut...and why should he? He's on his last contract more than likely and is thinking of his family's future. Restructuring his contract was the only outcome. Instead of whining about it let's see how the off-season plays out and how this team upgrades the talent on the defensive line. Hatch and Spencer will be gone so there will be some new blood being coached up by Rod M..

 

[AdamJT13]

Restructuring pushes more money into the future, no?

No. Restructuring does not change how much he gets paid this season. It merely changes the way that the money he gets is charged against the cap. Restructuring does not guarantee him any additional money in the future.

 

[Bluefin]

So they restructure his contract & then what? They have to pay the piper somewhere down the road.

If Dallas elects to avoid a confrontation over Demarcus Ware's large base salary and recent injury history and restructures his contract again, they will be in the exact same situation a year from now.

The Cowboys would still be able to cut Ware in 2015 for significant salary cap savings even if they do a full restructure this year, but I believe the time has come to have the pay cut talk ('14 & '15) and see where things go.

Either take a pay cut or be released. I agree with that. He was breaking down big time this year.

Ware has been handsomely paid as a member of the team.

His production no longer matches his salary and injuries have become a huge concern.

It would be best from a team perspective to urge Ware to take a big pay cut.

Dallas would guarantee Ware's 2014 base salary if he agreed to a reduction (say from $12.25M down to $6.25M).

The 2015 base salary would also be guaranteed if reduced (say from $13.75M to $6.75M), but that guarantee usually doesn't kick in until some time early in the '15 off-season (which means he can get cut like Gerald Sensabaugh was, if necessary).

I'm sure Ware has no interest in taking such a pay cut, but I'm also confident he's equally motivated to keep his family in Big D rather than becoming a journeyman NFL player this lat in his career.

The Cowboys have leverage on Ware, they should try to use it.

 

[jazzcat22]

Just because Ware's contract is restructured, doesn't mean it's a bad thing salary cap wise. What if it gives cap relief for the next 2 years, we still get his services. He is not broken down people, so get over that. He can bounce back. And if his production is down, you still get a serviceable player that you know. In 3 years when the money comes due, doesn't mean you can't release him then, and hopefully when it isn't as big on an impact on the salary cap.

Release him now, and use that to bring in a FA, you still don't know what you are getting. I understand the reasoning, and certainly can live with the decision one way or the other.

However, they still need to draft a DE for the future.

 

[BigStar]

Been saying it from the beginning.
Hoss Jones doesn't have the stomach for the HARD CHOICE.

I'm not going to go on record saying this is the worst thing in the world.
Maybe he can return to a semblance to his former self.
Maybe he can dominant again- with some help.

But to say this was unexpected- only a fool would have said that.
I'm thinking Austin goes nowhere either.

If there was a line on it in Vegas- I'd put hard-earned cash on it.

I remember definitely. They are not your friends JJ...

 

[Corso]

If Dallas elects to avoid a confrontation over Demarcus Ware's large base salary and recent injury history and restructures his contract again, they will be in the exact same situation a year from now.

The Cowboys would still be able to cut Ware in 2015 for significant salary cap savings even if they do a full restructure this year, but I believe the time has come to have the pay cut talk ('14 & '15) and see where things go.



Ware has been handsomely paid as a member of the team.

His production no longer matches his salary and injuries have become a huge concern.

It would be best from a team perspective to urge Ware to take a big pay cut.

Dallas would guarantee Ware's 2014 base salary if he agreed to a reduction (say from $12.25M down to $6.25M).

The 2015 base salary would also be guaranteed if reduced (say from $13.75M to $6.75M), but that guarantee usually doesn't kick in until some time early in the '15 off-season (which means he can get cut like Gerald Sensabaugh was, if necessary).

I'm sure Ware has no interest in taking such a pay cut, but I'm also confident he's equally motivated to keep his family in Big D rather than becoming a journeyman NFL player this lat in his career.

The Cowboys have leverage on Ware, they should try to use it.

What a good post.
Cogent, sensible and real.
Much better than 99% of my posts...

 

[Picksix]

Restructuring pushes more money into the future, no?

We tend to refer to it that way, because it makes his cap hits in subsequent years higher. Typically, a restructure just turns his base salary into another "signing bonus". So, for next year, you would take his 12.25 million and spread that out over the remainder of his contract, which is four years in total. He still gets that 12.25 mill this year. It significantly lowers his cap hit this year, but makes the cap hit higher each of the next three years, making it harder to cut him because of the increased dead money that would be involved. So, in that sense, it could make the team hold onto him longer than they would have otherwise, effectively "guaranteeing" him more money.

 

[DCBoysfan]

I think restructuring is the worst case scenario for the Ware contract. But that's proably what will happen. That's how Jerry rolls.

I'm a Ware fan since he was drafted, but it is a mistake pushing more money in the future for him.

 

[DCBoysfan]

Who said anything about guaranteeing him more money in the future? The only issue is whether we pay him what he is due in 2014 or try to pay him less.

So would Dallas just need to turn a portion of his base salary into a signing bonus? How does that effect the cap moving forward?

 

[big dog cowboy]

Admit it. Go ahead and raise your hand. Who saw this coming?

 

[Bluefin]

We tend to refer to it that way, because it makes his cap hits in subsequent years higher. Typically, a restructure just turns his base salary into another "signing bonus". So, for next year, you would take his 12.25 million and spread that out over the remainder of his contract, which is four years in total. He still gets that 12.25 mill this year. It significantly lowers his cap hit this year, but makes the cap hit higher each of the next three years, making it harder to cut him because of the increased dead money that would be involved. So, in that sense, it could make the team hold onto him longer than they would have otherwise, effectively "guaranteeing" him more money.

If Dallas fully restructures Demarcus Ware's 2014 base salary of 12.25M, it would mean dropping the salary down to the minimum, $0.855K in Ware's case, and converting the remaining $11.395M into a signing bonus. It would be spread over the remaining four years ($2.84875M per yr) or the team can add a fifth season to enable maximum proration ($2.279M per yr).

Ware gets that bonus money paid up front, but it counts in equal amounts against the cap for the remainder of the contract.

This restructure would push either $8.54625M (4yrs) or $9.116M (5yrs) in new bonus prorations into 2015 and beyond.

If Ware get released, this is what becomes "dead money." (along with any other remaining prorated bonus money from past restructures still on the books).

The team doesn't actually owe the money to the player, it's already been paid, but it still counts against the salary cap.

When a player is released or traded, all remaining pro-rated bonus money in future years will escalate into that year's cap unless the June designation is used or it takes place after June 1st.

Dallas can do the restructure, create cap room, and revisit Ware's contract again next year or they can have "the talk" and try to work out a compromise that's fair to both parties.

 

[Nightman]

Admit it. Go ahead and raise your hand. Who saw this coming?

Nothing has changed. Watkins is quoting an unnamed source. Ware can still get cut, take a big cut, get traded, get restructured or be a June 1st cut.

He is owed 12.75m for 2014 and restructuring only delays the accounting of that money, he still gets every penny of that for 2014. He is not worth anywhere close to that anymore. They got better production from a street FA for the near the league minimum. Like others have said, the only smart way to keep him is if he agrees to almost a 50% pay cut for the next 2 years. That is what he would probably get as a FA if he is waived.

 

[OhSnap]

lol i've actually taken a step back already believe it or not. i post majority on the phone and the woman is fine and taken care of thank you very much.

Ware has a lot more clout in the organization. A LOT more.

His name sells merchandise but it's been 2 years since he was dominant. He's lost a little bit of that leverage. It would be in his favor to take a pay cut now and keep the years left on his contract because if he can't deliver double digit sacks next year he will be released and he'll be makin less wherever he goes.

 

[cowboysooner]

No. Restructuring does not change how much he gets paid this season. It merely changes the way that the money he gets is charged against the cap. Restructuring does not guarantee him any additional money in the future.

Sure.

However, many other franchises ask themselves is Ware or McNabb or Seymour worth $12.25 million this year? If the player could not get that in the market they ask for a pay cut or move on.