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tyke1doe

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This guy....

I'm sure Romo will play his heart out to avoid some college QB from being drafted. And I bet he can't sleep at night due to this overweaming fear.

I don't think Romo playing to keep a young QB at bay even enters his mind. He knows he's one of the best quarterbacks in the game. He also knows his nearer the end of his career.

He'll play because he's a competitor, and he will allow the Cowboys to do what they need to do to prepare for the future.
 

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Before the season started I was discussing with my friends that are also Cowboys fans how much I liked the moves the organization had made this offseason. I ended it with the caveat of (paraphrasing) 'even if we struggle this season for whatever reason, the moves that the organization have made have now allowed the Cowboys to come back strong for 2016 and beyond.'

The organization basically got Hardy and McFadden for a pay for play rate. I don't think Murray was worth re-signing for what he got in Philly. I still think we made the right move in not re-signing Harris for what he got and re-signing Beasley instead. We took a hard stance with Ro. McClain, we pick up Collins despite having what was already called the best O-Line in the league. And we generally were stingy in terms of any re-signings of veterans and I really like our draft.

Injuries happen (although they happen way too much to us) and it's about developing talent and not getting saddled with bad contracts to allow the team to not be so feast or famine every year. That's when we will start to compile back-to-back seasons in the playoffs and that's when we start giving ourselves a better chance at going to the Super Bowl.

I badly want Dallas to draft a first round QB to replace Romo in the next 2 years. So losing would help create that. But, tanking sends a bad message throughout the organization. You tank now and what message does the bring if you start off the season 2-4 and you're down by 14 points in the second quarter?

This is where I completely agree with Garrett...we can't just chase wins. We have to have a process in place and stick to that process until we become superb at time after time. Then the wins will come. It's not something crazy that Garrett came up with...he learned it directly from Nick Saban. The tricky part is when to figure out if the process will ever work or not. I tend to think it will given last year's performance with a very flawed team. So, I'd rather have us continue to stick to the process, try to win so we can at least evaluate talent for next season and continue to draft and make the offseason moves like we have made for the past 2 years.

YR

Excellent post. You don't chase wins, but you also don't try to chase positions. If a quarterback isn't there, you shouldn't take one high. Just continue the philosophy of picking the best player for your team, following your process and building through the draft.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I like the way this team is building up the trenches, particularly the offensive line. That's going to pay dividends in the future.

But many fans are WIN NOW TO HADES WITH PROCESS kind of thinkers. That's what gets franchises in trouble.

This season was destroyed by injuries. PERIOD. I'm convinced if we were healthy, we'd be among the undefeated teams. But it is what it is.

And while I have curbed my enthusiasm over us winning the division and getting into the playoffs, there's still hope. But even if we don't, we will be sitting in a prime position to get a bell cow running back or some other talented to augment what we already have.
 

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The defense badly needs to fix the secondary and figure out the MLB position. YR

I agree the secondary is average to substandard (safeties) and McClain is not the long-term answer at MLB.

I also think, though, they are serviceable and the Cowboys can win with the guys in place on defense as long as there is a great running game and a good QB.
 

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Excellent post. You don't chase wins, but you also don't try to chase positions. If a quarterback isn't there, you shouldn't take one high.

I agree. Although I believe that QB is the one position you can take even if there are players from other positions that are more highly rated. Let's say we draft 16th and there is a QB on the board we have rated 23rd, but a TE we have rated 8th. If we believe that he is a legit first round talent that fits our scheme, then I'm taking the QB. Any other position and I would lean more towards taking the TE.




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I just hate that we wasted the Romo era with Garrett as our coach.


Wade Phillips got screwed over by this guy as well.

Perception about Wade Phillips as a bad HC, which is not proven, was destroyed by perception of Jason Garrett as a genius, which is not proven. Wade has actually done things. In Buffalo he was a music city miracle away from probably playing for the SB, because he had that defense clicking. And he has in fact been screwed by an interfering FO in that case with the Johnson-Flutie drama.. And he won games with those guys and Buffalo collapsed after he left.

With the Callahan-Garrett saga happening, you can probably get a pretty accurate gage of the politics Garrett must have played during the time Wade was HC, especially during the Dan Reeves debacle.
 
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Did people miss the fact that the New York Giants lost to the same New Orleans team yesterday that barely beat us with Brandon Weeden at quarterback?

Despite being without Romo, we only have one more loss than every team in our division. This "meaningless games" thing right now is just silly with this division not being very strong this year. If we stay within striking distance, the games with Romo will be anything but meaningless.

:hammer:
 

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a lot of fans are going to be there sitting and clapping with Garrett. The organization has been so dreadful for 20 years, this fan base cheers "meh" players and a coach who is still learning on the job. thats how far we sunk.
 

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a lot of fans are going to be there sitting and clapping with Garrett. The organization has been so dreadful for 20 years, this fan base cheers "meh" players and a coach who is still learning on the job. thats how far we sunk.

I agree with this.
 

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I just hate that we wasted the Romo era with Garrett as our coach.


Wade Phillips got screwed over by this guy as well.

I always felt that Garrett sabotaged Wade.

Let's not forget in the infamous 2007 playoff bye week, Garrett was running around interviewing for jobs, ready to bolt Dallas. But all everyone remembers is Romo chillaxing in Cabo
 

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There's nothing "meaningless" about winning games. You don't want to create a losing culture around here. Some teams get a losing culture and never gain it back. That's why i'm against the tanking for a draft pick idea. If you can win a game win it. You have some young players on this team who need to experience that.
 

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a lot of fans are going to be there sitting and clapping with Garrett. The organization has been so dreadful for 20 years, this fan base cheers "meh" players and a coach who is still learning on the job. thats how far we sunk.

Were we dreadful las year when we got 13 wins? Or does that not count because that goes against the whole "Doom and gloom for 20 years" statement?
 

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a lot of fans are going to be there sitting and clapping with Garrett. The organization has been so dreadful for 20 years, this fan base cheers "meh" players and a coach who is still learning on the job. thats how far we sunk.

but hey, now were actually doing it the right way...just give it a little more time....and lets not worry about replacing Murray and getting a legit backup for our 36 year old QB with back problems and a habit of missing games in the last few years because of injuries....

Lets ignore all that, even though it was the engine that made this team playoff caliber in 2014....lets just ignore it.

okay. okay. next year Cowboys fans! -- im used to it too....
 

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I always felt that Garrett sabotaged Wade.

Let's not forget in the infamous 2007 playoff bye week, Garrett was running around interviewing for jobs, ready to bolt Dallas. But all everyone remembers is Romo chillaxing in Cabo

Garrett seems like the type of guy who would have bounced from the Titanic right before it hit the glacier, getting himself the first raft available to ensure his own safety. He'll then clap while people are jumping into the ice cold water, shouting words of encouragement so nobody can blame him for abandoning ship first. He'll know his groupies will defend his cowardice as a tactical move.
 

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There's nothing "meaningless" about winning games. You don't want to create a losing culture around here. Some teams get a losing culture and never gain it back. That's why i'm against the tanking for a draft pick idea. If you can win a game win it. You have some young players on this team who need to experience that.

Colts tanked and picked right back up with winning seasons.

This team is sucking hard anyway right now. I'll trade a few meaningless wins in December for years of better roster
 

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This season comes down to this: Jones & Company gambled that Romo would be protected by the new
"Great Wall in Dallas". Didn't happen and Jones lost the bet. Romo, who has always been slight of build and
next hit from IR had the expected happen this year. This is a QB led NFL and without a good one, no team
has a chance to win consistently. Jones gambled again that Weeden could back Romo up...bad roll of the dice
there. The Cowboys appear not to have any QB on the roster who can win an NFL game and with two more
losses to come...probably will miss the playoffs. Who can say with certainty right now if Romo will even last
the remaining games if he comes back to play. At his age and body build, he is likely to get crushed again due
to poor line play especially at RT. Indy had the right idea to dump a season in order to try and get Luck. It's
probably time for the Boys to get in the QB sweepstakes since the last great pick was Aikman and that was long...
long ago.
 

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Perception about Wade Phillips as a bad HC, which is not proven, was destroyed by perception of Jason Garrett as a genius, which is not proven. Wade has actually done things. In Buffalo he was a music city miracle away from probably playing for the SB, because he had that defense clicking. And he has in fact been screwed by an interfering FO in that case with the Johnson-Flutie drama.. And he won games with those guys and Buffalo collapsed after he left.

With the Callahan-Garrett saga happening, you can probably get a pretty accurate gage of the politics Garrett must have played during the time Wade was HC, especially during the Dan Reeves debacle.


Garrett may very well be a genius but it does not show up as a football coach.


Jerry got suckered by this guy and how smart he is but his smarts do not translate to football.


As a coach he offers nothing.
 

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Garrett may very well be a genius but it does not show up as a football coach.


Jerry got suckered by this guy and how smart he is but his smarts do not translate to football.


As a coach he offers nothing.

I remember during the Wade years, Jerry use to spend time with Wade. They went to that horse race together from what I recall.

Garrett's biggest defender seemed to be Stephen. they were seen as a tandem in particular during the Wade years. Stephen also worked with Garrett's father in personnel going back to 1997. And Garrett plays footsies, per some on this board, with Jerry's daughter.
 

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Garrett may very well be a genius but it does not show up as a football coach.


Jerry got suckered by this guy and how smart he is but his smarts do not translate to football.


As a coach he offers nothing.


You have it right. Garrett might be a pretty good QB position coach but fails pretty quickly as a head coach. He's
certainly no Parcells or Bellicheat. Not many good, winning coaches to be had right now and Jerry just planted his
flag in a 5 year losing contract....
 

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Colts tanked and picked right back up with winning seasons.

This team is sucking hard anyway right now. I'll trade a few meaningless wins in December for years of better roster

Colts didn't tank Colts simply sucked. Just like we are they were dependent on Peyton and as a result couldn't win a game.

There are other organizations who tank who never stop. The Browns. The Raiders. You create a losing culture and sometimes you never get to win again. Haven't you noticed that most of these teams drafting in the top 10 every year are the same teams?

When Tom Brady went out and they won 11 games with Cassel just to miss out on the playoffs......how did that hurt them? Not comparing us to the Pats of course but just an example of how there's nothing wrong with winning some games going into next season if that is the case.

The only thing left on this team is that Garrett hasn't lost his players. Losing can possibly do that. Tanking is for loser organizations. You can improve this roster and get a "better roster" just by simply drafting better.
 
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