We are committing way too many penalties

[Doomsday101]

Dallas had 5 penalties (31 Yds) in the Atlanta game and two of them were pretty weak IMO. I'll take that every week please.

The penalties against Philly was when it was ridiculous.

True I think what made it worse was the timing. After stopping Alt and starting in good field position the Cowboys started moving backwards and forced to punt. If not mistake we would not cross mid field again in the 2nd half.

 

[DenCWBY]

But it was the penalties that change the momentum of the game.

The false start by Witt and then holding by Free on our first possession in the second half was huge. We were at the midfield and we needed to score. After the penalties we were faced with 3rd and 20 plus yards and then punted.

That was a turning point in the game.

This for sure. I know it didn't seem that harmful at the time but this is when we lifted our foot off the neck of the Falcons. This drive could have been a dagger but turned into another gift for Atlanta.

 

[CATCH17]

I know we are all trying to figure out the problems..

but to me when watching the replay of the game..

We are committing way too many penalties.

And its the OL and TEs holding or false starting..

and the defense with alot of offsides, holding and pass interference.

It was ridiculous against the Falcons and not very good in the first two games against the Jints and Iggles.

How do the coaches address that?

If this keeps up..

We won't even be competitive going forward.

Thoughts?

This has always been a staple for Jason Garrett coached teams.

I'm just used to it by now.

 

[Junglist]

havent penalties been on the increase throughout the league? thought i heard that elsewhere. that i read the refs were being told from above to call more than they would normally call.

Yes, they have. Two weeks ago there were 7 games with 20, or more, penalties called, and the fewest number was 12.

 

[Doomsday101]

This has always been a staple for Jason Garrett coached teams.

I'm just used to it by now.

Dallas ranked 11th in fewest penalties last season.

 

[CATCH17]

Dallas ranked 11th in fewest penalties last season.

So not even top 10. What about the other years?

 

[Aven8]

When you start your first drive in the second half still leading at there 47 and then end up punting from what our 42? Bad penalties that killed us starting with a Captain.

 

[Floatyworm]

I know we are all trying to figure out the problems..

but to me when watching the replay of the game..

We are committing way too many penalties.

And its the OL and TEs holding or false starting..

and the defense with alot of offsides, holding and pass interference.

It was ridiculous against the Falcons and not very good in the first two games against the Jints and Iggles.

How do the coaches address that?

If this keeps up..

We won't even be competitive going forward.

Thoughts?

Jerry needs to get out his check book and make a donation to the ________________________ (Use your imagination)

 

[CATCH17]

When you start your first drive in the second half still leading at there 47 and then end up punting from what our 42? Bad penalties that killed us starting with a Captain.

And predictability on first down as well.

Might as well have been penalizing ourselves by just letting the Falcons Tee off on our run game.

Falcons came out playing us honest and we ran up and down the field. Then Dallas went into a shell and they just sent the house on the run.


I can't stand our coaches sometimes man. I really can't. I'm sick of losing games because of these guys and their lack of adjustments.

Heck... We could've done some of those check down passes on first down and it would've been better than a run play that everyone knows that we're about to run.

 

[Doomsday101]

So not even top 10. What about the other years?

avg 6.4 in past season, thus far in this seadson we had 3 vs NY we did have 18 vs Philly and 5 vs Alt. I know you don't care for Garrett but claiming penalties under him have been bad? That is not true.

 

[jblaze2004]

idk why but u can guarantee a witten false start once a game.

 

[BourbonBalz]

But it was the penalties that change the momentum of the game.

The false start by Witt and then holding by Free on our first possession in the second half was huge. We were at the midfield and we needed to score. After the penalties we were faced with 3rd and 20 plus yards and then punted.

That was a turning point in the game.

That series along with giving up the field goal just before the half both played HUGE roles in the loss. Total momentum changers.

 

[Jarv]

And predictability on first down as well.

Might as well have been penalizing ourselves by just letting the Falcons Tee off on our run game.

Falcons came out playing us honest and we ran up and down the field. Then Dallas went into a shell and they just sent the house on the run.


I can't stand our coaches sometimes man. I really can't. I'm sick of losing games because of these guys and their lack of adjustments.

Heck... We could've done some of those check down passes on first down and it would've been better than a run play that everyone knows that we're about to run.

I can't tell you how much I agree with this, well hopefully I did.

Check down pass on 1st down, then try the run on 2nd down with a 2nd and 5.

I read another stat which is like captain obvious, we passed from the shotgun 86% of the time and ran from under center 85% of the time. We really needed to mix it up more from under center.

 

[mahoneybill]

But it was the penalties that change the momentum of the game.

The false start by Witt and then holding by Free on our first possession in the second half was huge. We were at the midfield and we needed to score. After the penalties we were faced with 3rd and 20 plus yards and then punted.

That was a turning point in the game.

Agree. We were a first down away from a potential FG try by Bailey. Can't remember another game recently where he had 0 attempts.

 

[ConstantReboot]

I disagree. We lost because we are fielding a team of 2nd and 3rd stringers. Injuries matter. You take away any team's first string all-star QB and WR, starting LG, top 3 pass rushers on the DL, MLB, and #1 CB, and tell me which coaching staff in the NFL is going to win against this Falcons team?

I didn't like the conservative approach either - but in the big picture, Vince Lombardi would have had trouble on Sunday given the handicapped starting lineup that we fielded.

We were moving the ball in the 1st half. Then Atlanta adjusted in the 2nd half. Like I mentioned before. We curled up like a ball and was scared to go deep. However, in the first half Weeden actually threw deep with a play action. I'm willing to bet that we would have had better success in winning EVEN with all the injuries if our offense didn't go conservative and run right straight into a 9 man front on 1st downs. What happened in the 2nd half was the lack of our offense not being able to put drives to score. Thats inexcusable. Despite the injuries its still rest on the coaches and they failed miserably.

 

[remdak]

idk why but u can guarantee a witten false start once a game.

He's our new Flozell

 

[BulletBob]

We were moving the ball in the 1st half. Then Atlanta adjusted in the 2nd half. Like I mentioned before. We curled up like a ball and was scared to go deep. However, in the first half Weeden actually threw deep with a play action. I'm willing to bet that we would have had better success in winning EVEN with all the injuries if our offense didn't go conservative and run right straight into a 9 man front on 1st downs. What happened in the 2nd half was the lack of our offense not being able to put drives to score. Thats inexcusable. Despite the injuries its still rest on the coaches and they failed miserably.

I was as disappointed as you were with the game plan, coaching, 2nd half collapse, etc. But a day later, after the emotion dissipated, I think I began to see the forest through the trees.

Big picture: we were facing a superior opponent talent-wise, who was probably way overconfident in the first half, made the proper adjustments in the second half, and simply overpowered the weaker (by injuries and suspensions) team.

We are all yelling and screaming about a runny nose, coughing, fatigue, etc. when in reality the patient has pnuemonia.

Again, answer the key question to understand the big picture: You take away any team's first string all-star QB and WR, starting LG, top 3 pass rushers on the DL, MLB, and #1 CB, and tell me which coaching staff in the NFL is going to win against this Falcons team?

 

[conner01]

Penalties have been a problem......but I can't say that was why we lost on Sunday.

No one thing cost us the game or any game for that matter
It's usually a combination of several things and penalties are one big part of it

 

[xwalker]

I know we are all trying to figure out the problems..

but to me when watching the replay of the game..

We are committing way too many penalties.

And its the OL and TEs holding or false starting..

and the defense with alot of offsides, holding and pass interference.

It was ridiculous against the Falcons and not very good in the first two games against the Jints and Iggles.

How do the coaches address that?

If this keeps up..

We won't even be competitive going forward.

Thoughts?

You know what would be nice with this type of new thread? Numbers.

Falcons 6-70
Cowboys 5-31

Eagles 8-60
Cowboys 18-142

Giants 5-44
Cowboys 3-35

 

[DallasEast]

Pre-snap penalties are the worst kind, no matter if they occur at the high school, college or pro level. They jeopardize drives, kill drives altogether or keep your opponent's offense on the field. Pre-snap penalties are the easiest to correct also. Coaching is mostly responsible for straightening out pre-snap penalties but players hold onto a good portion of the responsibility. This is why I never hold coaches completely responsible for players committing pre-snap penalties.

Focus and intelligence are the keys. Losing one or both results in dumb yet preventable mistakes. A coach can have one of the smartest players in the game, like a Jason Witten. A coach can work with the player all week, impress the importance of maintaining focus, and the player may still make the same stupid mistake during games. However, the coach cannot take his best players off the field simply because they might momentarily drift into the bonehead zone. Dealing with players who have demonstated tendencies to commit pre-snap penalties is a catch-22 situation for any coach.