We are committing way too many penalties

[Redball Express]

That's because we had Romo . You can not commit penalties like that with a backup QB and have it end well. It's hard enough to do that with a starting QB let alone a backup.

I agree.

Penalties has been an issue right out of the gate this year.

And with Romo..no doubt the penalties have a better chance of being over come than with Weeden.

When I see Weeden in the Falcons game..it was obvious he was being told to get rid of the ball quickly and don't throw downfield.

so complaints about Weeden are probably misplaced.

It was Linehan and Garrett who are responsible.

So where do we go from here?

Who knows.

In my mind this day was coming with Romo as he has not been healthy going on 3 years now.

How this team manages what is happening and how they view the immediate future is the real crisis.

I think our season is pretty much lost at this point and I don't see it changing even when these injured players return.

It's going to take them several games to get going and losses will probably be piling up.

We lost what we had last year and I think we will not get it back in time.

Just my feeling after seeing how we played Sunday.

 

[Redball Express]

Thanx for the numbers.

It's not just about the numbers..

it's also when they occur and how much the walk-off is.

Not just amounts.

 

[Redball Express]

Thanx for the numbers.

It's not just about the numbers..

it's also when they occur and how much the walk-off is.

Not just amounts.

 

[xwalker]

Pre-snap penalties are the worst kind, no matter if they occur at the high school, college or pro level. They jeopardize drives, kill drives altogether or keep your opponent's offense on the field. Pre-snap penalties are the easiest to correct also. Coaching is mostly responsible for straightening out pre-snap penalties but players hold onto a good portion of the responsibility. This is why I never hold coaches completely responsible for players committing pre-snap penalties.

Focus and intelligence are the keys. Losing one or both results in dumb yet preventable mistakes. A coach can have one of the smartest players in the game, like a Jason Witten. A coach can work with the player all week, impress the importance of maintaining focus, and the player may still make the same stupid mistake during games. However, the coach cannot take his best players off the field simply because they might momentarily drift into the bonehead zone. Dealing with players who have demonstated tendencies to commit pre-snap penalties is a catch-22 situation for any coach.

Witten's was the only presnap penalty.

 

[chris1995]

I know we are all trying to figure out the problems..

but to me when watching the replay of the game..

We are committing way too many penalties.

And its the OL and TEs holding or false starting..

and the defense with alot of offsides, holding and pass interference.

It was ridiculous against the Falcons and not very good in the first two games against the Jints and Iggles.

How do the coaches address that?

If this keeps up..

We won't even be competitive going forward.

Thoughts?

Way too many !!!!

 

[DallasEast]

Witten's was the only presnap penalty.

That's true and not debatable. I apologize if my post reads as if I insinuated Dallas committed more than one pre-snap last Sunday. That was not my intention.

That withstanding, what could've happened in that drive if Witten didn't commit the false start? No one knows. In another universe Witten may not have jumped, run a 5-yard out pattern, caught a pass, and run for the first down. In another universe Witten may have whiffed on a block causing Weeden to be sacked after scrambling backwards 10 yards.

I value the potential results of all drives--hopefully positively for the offensive drives of teams I follow and negatively for their opponent's--without exception. A number of positive or negative results could happen if a play is or isn't executed properly. A pre-snap penalty erases all possibilities connected with a particular down from an actual game. In this instance, Witten's false start helped short-circuit a Cowboy drive that began at mid-field. No points came about from that drive, which, after subsequent failed passes and run and a holding penalty, ended in a punt. Atlanta capitalized on our failed drive by driving the field on our suddenly hapless defense in six plays for a touchdown and a two-point conversion.

A player mistake may or may not have an adverse effect on the outcome of a game. Sometimes the fewer mistakes committed by a team helps create wins. The same can be said for losses. Nonetheless, all pre-snap penalties, including the single one committed by Witten last Sunday, are correctable and preventable mistakes.

 

[dallasdave]

That's true and not debatable. I apologize if my post reads as if I insinuated Dallas committed more than one pre-snap last Sunday. That was not my intention.

That withstanding, what could've happened in that drive if Witten didn't commit the false start? No one knows. In another universe Witten may not have jumped, run a 5-yard out pattern, caught a pass, and run for the first down. In another universe Witten may have whiffed on a block causing Weeden to be sacked after scrambling backwards 10 yards.

I value the potential results of all drives--hopefully positively for the offensive drives of teams I follow and negatively for their opponent's--without exception. A number of positive or negative results could happen if a play is or isn't executed properly. A pre-snap penalty erases all possibilities connected with a particular down from an actual game. In this instance, Witten's false start helped short-circuit a Cowboy drive that began at mid-field. No points came about from that drive, which, after subsequent failed passes and run and a holding penalty, ended in a punt. Atlanta capitalized on our failed drive by driving the field on our suddenly hapless defense in six plays for a touchdown and a two-point conversion.

A player mistake may or may not have an adverse effect on the outcome of a game. Sometimes the fewer mistakes committed by a team helps create wins. The same can be said for losses. Nonetheless, all pre-snap penalties, including the single one committed by Witten last Sunday, are correctable and preventable mistakes.

That's hope this week that Dallas has worked on their problems !!! I don't want to hear Doug Frees name at all !!!

 

[xwalker]

That's true and not debatable. I apologize if my post reads as if I insinuated Dallas committed more than one pre-snap last Sunday. That was not my intention.

That withstanding, what could've happened in that drive if Witten didn't commit the false start? No one knows. In another universe Witten may not have jumped, run a 5-yard out pattern, caught a pass, and run for the first down. In another universe Witten may have whiffed on a block causing Weeden to be sacked after scrambling backwards 10 yards.

I value the potential results of all drives--hopefully positively for the offensive drives of teams I follow and negatively for their opponent's--without exception. A number of positive or negative results could happen if a play is or isn't executed properly. A pre-snap penalty erases all possibilities connected with a particular down from an actual game. In this instance, Witten's false start helped short-circuit a Cowboy drive that began at mid-field. No points came about from that drive, which, after subsequent failed passes and run and a holding penalty, ended in a punt. Atlanta capitalized on our failed drive by driving the field on our suddenly hapless defense in six plays for a touchdown and a two-point conversion.

A player mistake may or may not have an adverse effect on the outcome of a game. Sometimes the fewer mistakes committed by a team helps create wins. The same can be said for losses. Nonetheless, all pre-snap penalties, including the single one committed by Witten last Sunday, are correctable and preventable mistakes.

I don't know what the coaches can do when a player like Witten keeps false starting. The only options are to live with it or bench him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

In my mind this day was coming with Romo as he has not been healthy going on 3 years now.

He was plenty healthy until the sack that broke his collarbone.

 

[DallasEast]

I don't know what the coaches can do when a player like Witten keeps false starting. The only options are to live with it or bench him.

They're forced to live with him and that's a good thing. Any coach loves having hall of fame talent playing for their team. Witten's the man but one of his very VERY few weaknesses regularly disrupts or helps stymie offensive drives. He's better than that. He knows he's better than that. It just bugs me to no end he can't squash that particular habit.

 

[xwalker]

They're forced to live with him and that's a good thing. Any coach loves having hall of fame talent playing for their team. Witten's the man but one of his very VERY few weaknesses regularly disrupts or helps stymie offensive drives. He's better than that. He knows he's better than that. It just bugs me to no end he can't squash that particular habit.

It's not as bad as Flozell who was a really good LT but constantly frustrated everybody because he almost always had a false start at the worst possible time.

 

[DallasEast]

It's not as bad as Flozell who was a really good LT but constantly frustrated everybody because he almost always had a false start at the worst possible time.

I was afraid Adams would give me a stroke during a lot of his games. People wrote off some of false starts to being deaf in one of his ears but that excuse wore thin with me pretty quickly.

 

[xwalker]

I was afraid Adams would give me a stroke during a lot of his games. People wrote off some of false starts to being deaf in one of his ears but that excuse wore thin with me pretty quickly.

When he was gone it became obvious why they lived with it. He was really good other than the penalties.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

Penalties are way up this year league wise.

 

[Satchel89]

That will never change. They always commit a ton of penalties. It's frustrating but it never changes. Year after year, No matter who the coach is, This team will be penalized a bunch. And it's everyone. Witten is a HOF and he has false starts all the time. It irritates me as a fan but I'm used to it

 

[conner01]

Witten's was the only presnap penalty.

Man you have a way of raining on people's parade when them dang facts lol

 

[WhizKid]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...as-record-number-of-flags-fly-through-week-3/

 

[Wood]

I expected penalties to start season. First we need talent back on field and then some cohesion. That is best way to fix the penalties.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I understand but penalties are going to happen. Good calls or bad calls. They are going to happen. I don't think that's an excuse to collapse.

Who said anything about an excuse? Offensive penalties correlate inversely to points. It is something OC's and line coaches can and do work on.

 

[Redball Express]

He was plenty healthy until the sack that broke his collarbone.

Yes he was.

But he's gone again and nobody really knows when he will be back nor how good he will be after 2+months of not playing.

This will be the 3rd or 4th year out of the last 5 seasons where Romo is injured and not playing some portion of the season.

And when that happens..we have to turn to the Kitna/Weeden/Orton's of the NFL to keep us going.

Never works.

It's time to find Romo's replacement..