CFZ We are one of the best drafting teams over the last ten years

CCBoy said:
You still haven't addressed exact reason beyond accusing of failure. You afraid to give credit or something?
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He was cut by another team. His record at Dallas is clean as he is still their second round graded player and with them now. It isn't just a label situation even if claimed as such. He now is with another team and his record is now clean without a label of failure. His value is instead now upon what he earns now. That is the story for men...8 games but drafted highly along with injuries and you guys claim that he strictly is just a failure. I'm very glad you guys were never one of my bosses at in point in over a 50 year career of Public Service.
 
rambo2 said:
He is 23.
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OMG not you too. MAn the guy is a bust thus far. I can't argue otherwise. I'm sorry. I wish I could. But he's a bust. There's a small chance he works that bust label off. Its a chance I Was willing to trade for. Not a 4th but whatever they got him and that's all that matters. But the guy is a bust and some of the stuff you read about him is troubling. But just because he failed with Shanahan doesn't mean he will fail here. You just never know. But but make no mistake....teams don't give up on 23 year olds who they traded 3 1st rounders for.
 
CCBoy said:
He was cut by another team. His record at Dallas is clean as he is still their second round graded player and with them now. It isn't just a label situation even if claimed as such. He now is with another team and his record is now clean without a label of failure. His value is instead now upon what he earns now. That is the story for men...8 games but drafted highly along with injuries and you guys claim that he strictly is just a failure. I'm very glad you guys were never one of my bosses at in point in over a 50 year career of Public Service.
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Your history doesn't just disappear. He sucked just a few weeks ago in camp.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Which is why I said he's a BUST now but he can shake that label off eventually. But even then I don't think this team traded for him in hopes for him to be a backup...or maybe they did.....
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He has still retained the talent he had when drafted and has been constructive in his approach. Myself, I don't carry developmental evaluations of successful or failing actions as to professional qualities when those abilities are still strong skills. That is unprofessional, which this Cowboys Team are not.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
Your history doesn't just disappear. He sucked just a few weeks ago in camp.
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That is an opinion and not proven fact as to a player's place in the sport. No, that is not written in stone as to labels which you claim. He isn't a failure now and that is a fact in life as well as one claim for-ever labeling justification and conclusions. His talent hasn't suddenly escaped, and Dallas saw that. You now arguing that they are stupid now as well? You now arguing a definition of fact? Failure...if not, are you really trying to define all considerations as failure now?

You further arguing as a player, he is equal to a criminal stating he just didn't do it? And as such is hooked to a record of criminal status? C'mon...just be a fan with merit.
 
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TheMarathonContinues said:
OMG not you too. MAn the guy is a bust thus far. I can't argue otherwise. I'm sorry. I wish I could. But he's a bust. There's a small chance he works that bust label off. Its a chance I Was willing to trade for. Not a 4th but whatever they got him and that's all that matters. But the guy is a bust and some of the stuff you read about him is troubling. But just because he failed with Shanahan doesn't mean he will fail here. You just never know. But but make no mistake....teams don't give up on 23 year olds who they traded 3 1st rounders for.
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I guess that you can argue about this over the next 2 years. Enjoy.
 
CCBoy said:
He was cut by another team. His record at Dallas is clean as he is still their second round graded player and with them now. It isn't just a label situation even if claimed as such. He now is with another team and his record is now clean without a label of failure. His value is instead now upon what he earns now. That is the story for men...8 games but drafted highly along with injuries and you guys claim that he strictly is just a failure. I'm very glad you guys were never one of my bosses at in point in over a 50 year career of Public Service.
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He wasn't cut. He was traded.
 
SteveTheCowboy said:
Sorta sounds like you are hoping for as bust to prop dak.
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How does "hoping he's a bust" prop up Dak? Read before you post. If you think he's not a bust that's on you. I'm not gonna argue you with you on that because you've already shown you have troubles gauging the position.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
How does "hoping he's a bust" prop up Dak? Read before you post. If you think he's not a bust that's on you. I'm not gonna argue you with you on that because you've already shown you have troubles gauging the position.
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You have an MO dude. Whether you like it or not.

You think I do....and I do.

So do you. This shouldn't even be on our radar. Especially if you think he's a bust. But your are crusading as hard as ever about it. It's telling.
 
rambo2 said:
He wasn't cut. He was traded.
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He was cut from the team, as to status. He was first cut from San Francisco's plans. Fact, Not presented as conflict with he was traded to Dallas. What was instead at conflict was the point that he is now forever labeled as a failure for directions taken by the 49'ers. It's not!

A convicted criminal gets more leeway in his status even after a crime!!
 
rambo2 said:
He currently is a 23 year old late 4th round pick. Good value.
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I mean whatever if that's how you view him fine. I just disagree. He's a bust right now. He's not a 4th round pick but ok lol. I get you have to sell this move to yourself.
 
SteveTheCowboy said:
You have an MO dude. Whether you like it or not.

You think I do....and I do.

So do you. This shouldn't even be on our radar. Especially if you think he's a bust. But your are crusading as hard as ever about it. It's telling.
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What the hell is your MO?

And no one is "crusading".....i've rarely spoken on the Lance did because there's no point in arguing with people who think Lance is somehow here to make Dak expendable when the guy can't even make Cooper Rush expendable. I'm all for trading for him but i'm also going to be patient. But you guys will turn on him soon enough. ITs what you do.

I have no MO. And if I did Lance surely wouldn't have anything to do with it. I'm all for kicking the tires on him. I wouldn't have traded a 4th but they did. Oh well.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
What the hell is your MO?

And no one is "crusading".....i've rarely spoken on the Lance did because there's no point in arguing with people who think Lance is somehow here to make Dak expendable when the guy can't even make Cooper Rush expendable. I'm all for trading for him but i'm also going to be patient. But you guys will turn on him soon enough. ITs what you do.

I have no MO. And if I did Lance surely wouldn't have anything to do with it. I'm all for kicking the tires on him. I wouldn't have traded a 4th but they did. Oh well.
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The 4th did the talking and remains to be seen if value or not. Motive for opinion...MO
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
I mean whatever if that's how you view him fine. I just disagree. He's a bust right now. He's not a 4th round pick but ok lol. I get you have to sell this move to yourself.
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Not a bust yet...and he needs no support such as a living bra.
 
TheMarathonContinues said:
What the hell is your MO?

And no one is "crusading".....i've rarely spoken on the Lance did because there's no point in arguing with people who think Lance is somehow here to make Dak expendable when the guy can't even make Cooper Rush expendable. I'm all for trading for him but i'm also going to be patient. But you guys will turn on him soon enough. ITs what you do.

I have no MO. And if I did Lance surely wouldn't have anything to do with it. I'm all for kicking the tires on him. I wouldn't have traded a 4th but they did. Oh well.
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1) my MO is supporitng ALL our Cowboys...including Dak. Find one post from me that I don't support him, hope for his failure, ditch him. It should be very simple....You won't because you CAN'T. Neither can anyone else I ask.
2) You fight with everyone about Dak that dares disagree with you. CRUSADE!
3) Doesn't look like you support Lance when you are TRASHING him about being a bust. Friends like you who needs enemies?
4) Again..."you guys"...but show me "turning on anyone it's what you do"...like calling them "busts"...for example? That kind of "turning"? I don't but you already have!
5) "I have no MO"....lol....good one...JUST LIKE I PREDICTED YOU WOULD SAY! I know your MO....and I just proved it to you.
6) So lt's kick the tires then....let the best QB win...without the trash talk at him. Patience? Of course. But you go ahead and crusade at the two people who want Lance in the next game.
 
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