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We have a hard time getting to the SB because of draft position

Discussion in 'Fan Zone' started by Verdict, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Aviano90

    Aviano90 Go Seahawks!!!

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    We wouldn’t be any more successful if Dallas and NE switched divisions.
  2. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    He is one person and was not as good as either Quinn or Lawrence.
    Top 10 DE/OLB Pass Rush Win Rate
    1. Robert Quinn, Cowboys, 33%
    2. T.J. Watt, Steelers, 28%
    3. DeMarcus Lawrence, Cowboys, 27%
    4. Myles Garrett, Browns, 26%
    5. Shaquil Barrett, Buccaneers, 25%
    6. Joey Bosa, Chargers, 25%
    7. Jadeveon Clowney, Seahawks, 25%
    8. Za'Darius Smith, Packers, 23%
    9. Dante Fowler, Rams, 23%
    10. Preston Smith, Packers, 23%

    Team Pass Rush Win Rate
    1. Dallas Cowboys, 53%
    2. Atlanta Falcons, 53%
    3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 51%
    4. Philadelphia Eagles, 50%
    5. Los Angeles Rams, 50%
    6. Pittsburgh Steelers, 50%
    7. Jacksonville Jaguars, 48%
    8. Buffalo Bills, 47%
    9. Green Bay Packers, 47%
    10. Arizona Cardinals, 46%
    11. Los Angeles Chargers, 45%
    12. New York Jets, 45%
    13. San Francisco 49ers, 45%
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  3. AmericanCowboy

    AmericanCowboy Well-Known Member

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    Playing our starters week 17 against the Eagles when they were playing their backups was the most ridiculous thing- Every Cowboy backup should have been given the opportunity to play in that game so they could showcase what they could do.
  4. AmericanCowboy

    AmericanCowboy Well-Known Member

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    This is obviously good evidence that stats don't tell the whole story.

    There is not a single person alive who should realistically think that Demarcus Lawrence was better than Nick Bosa this year.
  5. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    But nope' because it was deemed 'more important' that Garrett manage another of one of his meaningless 'winning seasons' that his supporters- including Jerry Jones - can use to try to defend him. I guess it works in the gullible or those not paying attention?

    Ultimately, we were right all along, and they were completely wrong. It's just too bad that it took them 10 years to admit it.
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  6. Future

    Future Intramural Legend

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    Of course he was. By a mile.
  7. starfan1

    starfan1 Well-Known Member

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    at the time we were still in it so i cant get to upset about winning that last game. I was more upset about losing the previous week but to your argument when you draft in the middle its harder to become an elite team has validity but when you compound that with some of the reaches lately it makes it even harder
  8. Blackspider214

    Blackspider214 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I don't know why fans buy into this idea that we now draft well. They aren't complete disasters like in the last decade but that's about it. I have harped on this for a long time now.

    Our 2017 #1 pick is not even here any longer. Our last 2 second rd picks are not good. Connor and T.Hill. In fact, not one single player from our last draft had any impact at all. Our #1 pick in 2018 has serious health concerns going forward and was horrendous last year. 2015 draft was god awful. We take these risks on guys that just don't work out with high picks. Like Randy Gregory. And then Chaz Green the next round. That 2017 draft that was hyped up with all these good defenders we supposedly got, they just aren't good. Especially Awuzie. Wasn't he a 2nd round pick? That is 5 straight years of 2nd round busts.

    I think people are still going back and thinking of Tyron, Frederick and Maritn. And think that means we draft well currently. We don't. Will McClay is vastly overrated.
  9. quickccc

    quickccc Well-Known Member

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    +100 points!
    Very good points on Niners - and how 49ers built a SB contender so quickly and ingeniously without having to tank and acquire an No.1 overall QB.
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  10. GMO415

    GMO415 Well-Known Member

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    Funny how everyone playing this Championship weekend didn't say that this previous draft......yet we are?
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  11. Jake

    Jake Curmudgeon

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    It's easier for some folks to look for other reasons than to acknowledge the real one:

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  12. GimmeTheBall!

    GimmeTheBall! Junior College Transfer

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    Look, w he at do you expect? 8-8 seasons since 1997. Mediocrity is our motto!
  13. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    We'd do better if we had a GM who listened to the scouts instead of coaches who only offer bonehead advice. It's a killer far too often. :facepalm:
  14. GMO415

    GMO415 Well-Known Member

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    Xactly. A decade of inept coaching has brought us here. Drafting Taco?????
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  15. morat1959

    morat1959 Well-Known Member

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    This is a Jones staple for many years.
  16. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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    Now I’ve heard it all

    Super Bowl teams routinely pick late with a few exceptions

    And btw, we picked 4th overall as recently as 2014
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  17. DFWJC

    DFWJC Well-Known Member

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  18. TheDude

    TheDude McLovin

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    Ok. Sf defense sucks
  19. beware_d-ware

    beware_d-ware Well-Known Member

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    2019 pick #17: Dexter Lawrence
    2018 pick #17: Derwin James
    2017 pick #17: Jonathan Allen
    2016 pick #17: Keanu Neal
    2015 pick #17: Arik Armstead

    Those aren't players who hold you back from winning a Super Bowl.

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