We have serious question marks???

[Juke99]

Good post. I would like to add that this whole "win now" and "he gives us best chance to win" has only worked in theory. IMO we should have brought in Bledsoe to backup Henson and start from bottom.... YOU HAVVE TO ANYWAYS IN NFL... we CONTINUE(I repeat CONTINUE) to AVOID starting from the bottom up at that position. It is costing us time/years. Before you know it we are gonna have a 15+ year drought on our hands.
It is absolutely ridiculous to say that ANYONE(BP or JJ or the best QB talent evaluator) to say that Henson doenst have "It" or "he is not the one" or "he cant handle the pressure of playing QB" - WE DONT KNOW... throw him in there like the Giants did with Manning... albeit different situation coming out of college(Henson has not sat out 2 seasons) GET HIM IN THERE...

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45258

Great stuff from Tek2000...

Check out, under Miscellaneous, on the left hand side at the bottom...Henson...

His first game in 4 years...vs Baltimore...they were trying to preserve the shut out...he was being blitzed...he performed well...

In fact, he fumbled on his first snap...and didn't come apart at the seams...

And if you look at one of the plays where he is blitzed again...he avoids it...and while being hit...sorta just flicks his wrist and gets the ball downfield 50 yards or so...while not having his feet under him.

Now, before a QB debate erupts...My only point is, the kid has undeniable talent...anyone who watches these clips and doesn't see it is blind.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

True, but I can't imagine it being at the rate the 2002 team was. I think the main difference is that the guys on this roster that will be gone in 3 years will be due to age. Unlike the 2002 roster with guys like Hawthorne, Hambrick, etc who just weren't good enough to begin with.


Rich...........

Never disputed that he brought in to make team better. He got rid of dead weight. We are better. How much? Is it sufficient for 3 years? BP says a player has to show he can play in 3 years... what about a coach?

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

His first game in 4 years...vs Baltimore...they were trying to preserve the shut out...he was being blitzed...he performed well...

In fact, he fumbled on his first snap...and didn't come apart at the seams...

And if you look at one of the plays where he is blitzed again...he avoids it...and while being hit...sorta just flicks his wrist and gets the ball downfield 50 yards or so...while not having his feet under him.

Now, before a QB debate erupts...My only point is, the kid has undeniable talent...anyone who watches these clips and doesn't see it is blind.

Yes. Agreed. I also remember him throwing a TD(flicking wrist) in redzone around the 3 or 4 yardline. He was calm and cool. I am disappointed that we dont know more about him.

Here is his profile. It mentions the "wrist thing"

Being that we may never see him play here is something I came across - His Draft Profile.


Drew Henson, QB Michigan 6-4, 223

ANALYSIS

Positives: Confident field general with a strong personality … Tough and durable, absorbing punishing shots without ever being knocked out of a game … Has fine delivery and passing mechanics, hitting receivers in stride on timing patterns … Keeps his cool under pressure … Very quick driving away from the center while setting up, showing the body control needed to throw on the move … Carries the ball chest-high and is always ready to throw … Has quick wrist action in his delivery and the power behind his tosses so he does not have to plant in order to throw the deep passes … Knows how to adjust his release based on angles taken while throwing … Can drill the ball in the seam playing the short-area passing game and keeps receivers within their routes by feathering the ball to them on long bombs … Shows good backside awareness rolling out of the pocket … Scans the field effectively and throws with impressive velocity in the intermediate and short range … Can also hold for placements. Negatives: Tends to lock onto his primary receivers too much … Looks too long at his primary targets, taking unnecessary punishment when the pocket collapses, rather than throwing the ball out of bounds to prevent a turnover … Needs to improve his timing patterns to prevent receivers from having to adjust and turn constantly on routes … Will need a little refinement in his delivery, as he does not open and close his shoulders quickly … Overthrows at times on fades and post patterns … Availability is under review, as he is still under contract to the New York Yankees baseball organization.

CAREER NOTES

Rumors continue to swirl that this outstanding football product will attempt to hang up his baseball glove and return to the gridiron, much like Chad Hutchinson (Dallas Cowboys) did last year … A minor league third baseman in the New York Yankees organization, there is no question that Henson would have been a top pick in the draft if he decided to play football instead of baseball the last two years … Appeared in 27 games during his Michigan career, starting eight … Completed 214 of 374 passes (57.2 percent) for 2,946 yards, 24 touchdowns and only 7 interceptions during his football career. 2000 SEASON

Played in nine games, starting the final eight … Completed 146 of 237 passes (61.6 percent) for 2,146 yards, 18 touchdowns and only 4 interceptions … His 2,146 yards rank seventh on the school's season-record list … Scored twice on 33 carries … Averaged 237.8 yards per game in total offense.

• Bowling Green, Rice and UCLA - Missed the season's first three games after undergoing foot surgery on August 24.
• Illinois - Made his 2000 debut, coming off the bench to hit on 8 of 17 attempts for 141 yards and a 57-yard touchdown to his favorite target, David Terrell.
• Wisconsin - Inserted into the starting lineup, he connected on 15 of 27 passes for 257 yards and a game-winning 15-yard scoring strike to Terrell in a 13-10 decision.
• Purdue - Threw for 256 yards on 26 of 35 chances with a pair of scores.
• Indiana - Gained 233 yards on 14 of 18 passes as he found Terrell with touchdowns of 43 and 27 yards.
• Michigan State - Completed 17 of 37 tosses for 138 yards.
• Northwestern - Bounced back to amass 312 yards on 23 of 45 tries with 4 touchdowns, including 11-, 10- and 22-yarders to Terrell and also ran for a two-point conversion.
• Penn State - Totaled 212 yards on 14 of 29 passes and a pair of scores, including a 40-yarder to B.J. Askew, but had a career-high 3 interceptions.
• Ohio State - Added 14 of 25 attempts for 303 yards and 3 touchdowns, including a 70-yarder to Anthony Thomas and also ran for a 1-yard score.
• Auburn (Citrus Bowl) - Closed out his career with 15 of 20 completions for 294 yards and 2 touchdowns, including a 31-yarder to Terrell.

1999 SEASON

Played in 10 games behind Tom Brady … Completed 47 of 90 passes (52.2 percent) for 546 yards, 3 touchdowns and a pair of interceptions … Scored once on 27 carries … Averaged 53.2 yards per game in total offense. 1998 SEASON

Appeared in eight games as a reserve behind Tom Brady, finishing with 254 yards on 21 of 47 passes (44.7 percent) with 3 touchdowns and an interception. BASEBALL

Drafted by the New York Yankees in the third round of the 1998 draft … Traded along with Jackson Melian, Ed Yarnall and Brian Reith to the Cincinnati Reds for Denny Neagle and Mike Frank on July 12, 2000 … Was sent back to the Yankees (along with Michael Coleman) from the Reds on March 20, 2001, for outfielder Willy Mo Pena … Optioned to Columbus (AAA) on March 28, 2001, only to be recalled on Sept. 2, 2002 … Was again optioned to Columbus (AAA) on March 11, 2003, when he failed to win the third base job in spring training. INJURY REPORT

Sat out the 2000 UCLA, Bowling Green and Rice games after undergoing foot surgery in fall drills (8/24). CAMPUS AGILITY TESTS

4.73 in the 40-yard dash … 320-pound bench press … 31-inch vertical jump. HIGH SCHOOL

Attended Brighton (Mich.) High … Three-year starter in both football and baseball … Gained 5,662 yards with 52 touchdowns while completing 400 passes during his career … Set the Michigan state game-record with 6 touchdown throws … Averaged 45.7 yards per punt during his three seasons on the gridiron … Hit on 132 of 243 passes (54.3 percent) for 2,305 yards and 26 touchdowns, adding 388 yards and 11 scores on 55 carries as a senior … His 26 scoring tosses rank second on the state's season-record chart … Recorded 47 tackles with 5 interceptions as a defensive back in his sophomore year … Parade, Prep Football Report, National Recruiting Advisor and PrepStar first-team All-America choice in his final campaign … Named USA Today and Baseball America High School Player of the Year in baseball … Four-time all-state baseball choice … Set the national prep record with 70 home runs, 290 runs batted in and 259 runs scored during his career … Struck out 163 batters in 72 1/3 innings as a pitcher in his junior year. PERSONAL

General Studies major, who was enrolled in the College of Literature, Science and the Arts … Father, Dan, was a former offensive coordinator at Eastern Michigan … Drafted in the third round of the 1998 Major League Baseball Draft by the New York Yankees, signing a contract with the team … Born Drew Daniel Henson on Feb. 13, 1980 in San Diego, Calif. … Resides in Brighton, Mich.

 

[Ashwynn]

I'm only gonna weigh in on one of these....

I read, often, how our QB is fine if we put together a good offensive line.

I have a problem with this.

First off, just about ANY NFL QB is good with a good offensive line. You give a back up NFL QB time to throw and alot of them will pick a defense apart....especially given the new rules that don't allow DB's to play a physical game.

Now...my issue with Bledsoe (who btw, I think did an ok job)....we can't get by with an average offensive line and Bledsoe....we can't get by with a good offensive line and Bledsoe....because of his complete lack of mobility AND habit of fumbling when being sacked, we need a VERY good offensive line.

Unless we luck out with some draft picks, this is gonna cost mucho $$$$....and that's mucho $$$$ that could be spent elsewhere...

My issues with Bledsoe and Parcells bringing him to Dallas is that he forced our hand because he is so immobile.

I went to the 2003 Monday night game vs the Giants. Prior to that game, I had supported Hutch...Not QC....but after the game, I understood why Parcells went with QC. Our offensive line was not good and we needed a QB who could avoid the rush...not necessarily scramble all over the field because for all his mobility, QC was never a particularly good runner...but a guy who could make a couple of moves in the pocket to buy time...it allowed us to get by with an average offensive line.

Bledsoe forces our hand. He is SO bad in the pocket that we are going to need an extremely good offensive line so long as he is behind center.

So, from my standpoint, our QB position IS a problem. Regardless of the fact that he actually put up decent numbers. He LIMITS how we can play the game...he limits our offensive game planning and if we are to give him the protection he requires, he's gonna be a serious draw on the cap.

oh but we did get by with a decent line. When Flo was in there, who were tthe top 5 passers? With a decent line, Bledsoe willbe fine. When hes under pressure all day long, nobodies gunna look like Peyton Manning!

I would take the opposite view here and say we can get by with a decent line for 2 reasons.
1) we have seen it in the past. first 5 games of the season.
2) Bledsoes not a damn marble statue weighing 13 tons. Hes mobile enough to roll out. Hes mobile enough to step up in the pocket. hes not using a walker back there and you know it.

For all the worries on Bledsoe, hes shown no sign of warrenting this. hes shrugged off shoulder tackles, hes taken hits and not fumbled (you guys make it sound like if you breath on him he drops the ball).

Really, for whats out there, I am not sure we could do alot better, and we could do a lot worse for sure. Till we have the next golden boy, Bledsoes a capable quarterback.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Really, for whats out there, I am not sure we could do alot better, and we could do a lot worse for sure. Till we have the next golden boy, Bledsoes a capable quarterback.

Play Henson. Find out.

 

[Ashwynn]

Play Henson. Find out.

thats a joke right.....

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

thats a joke right.....

Where is the joke in there?

Do you have any proof he cant play?

Growing pains... gonna have to go through them with a young QB sometime...

How long are you willing to wait?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Where is the joke in there?

Do you have any proof he cant play?

Growing pains... gonna have to go through them with a young QB sometime...

How long are you willing to wait?

Send him to NFLE and if he does anything there we'll see

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Send him to NFLE and if he does anything there we'll see

Well there is a little problem with that. Even if he goes. It really doesnt matter how he does... its about acclimating him to real game time situations, scenario's... by no means is the deciding factor whether he plays in nfl or not....

some of these are so bad that the QB is running for his life most of the time... cannot be effective

 

[Alexander]

Ok I am gonna go there... how many of those 11 loses were because of Campo and his poor coaching... I dunno lets say 3 or so games... all BP did was win those games(smarter coach I will give him that... not much change there....

I beg to differ.

Each year we had opportunities to win in that regime. I can recall two to three games a year that we simply lost because of poor game management and play calling (such as the time he forgot the score against Denver).

There was a year or two in there were 5-11 could have easily been 8-8.

 

[Ashwynn]

Where is the joke in there?

Do you have any proof he cant play?

Growing pains... gonna have to go through them with a young QB sometime...

How long are you willing to wait?

Do you have any proof he CAN play?

 

[Yeagermeister]

Well there is a little problem with that. Even if he goes. It really doesnt matter how he does... its about acclimating him to real game time situations, scenario's... by no means is the deciding factor whether he plays in nfl or not....

some of these are so bad that the QB is running for his life most of the time... cannot be effective

If he can't play well vs poorer talent then he surely can't play in the nfl.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Do you have any proof he CAN play?

NO! That is my point. Lets find out.