We heard all this with Jason Garrett

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The Cowboys haven't played a first five games, defensively, like this in 50 years. To his credit, Rush hasn't screwed it up.

I see why you became a Mod. You're my kinda poster. Rational thinking is what we need more of on this board. ;)

Let's go, baby! GO COWBOYS!!
 

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I think you aren't accounting for Rush's accuracy or his poise under pressure when you try to distinguish between the two.
It doesn't matter if Dak can throw further if he chokes and/or makes bad passes.

What can you show that says Rush is a better QB than Dak? Show me anything that proves it......Does he have a higher Comp% does he have better redzone % 3rd down average? What exactly can you show anyone thats proves anything that says when they are healthy Rush is a better QB? So you dont like Dak..Ok that doesnt all the sudden make Rush a better option..lol you guys are ridiculous. Every thing about the passing game will be better with Dak throwing the ball....Just as it would if we had Josh Allen current play throwing it over Dak...this really isnt a hard concept to follow...
 

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All we heard from Garrett apologists was that he always had the #1 offense, or at least top 10.
It didn't matter that we were 8-8.
Now it's the same argument - big stats, but not winning. Dak Prescott is Jason Garrett 2.0.
Cooper Rush doesn't rack up huge stats, but we're winning.
I'll take winning.

Keep trying, kid.

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What can you show that says Rush is a better QB than Dak? Show me anything that proves it......Does he have a higher Comp% does he have better redzone % 3rd down average? What exactly can you show anyone thats proves anything that says when they are healthy Rush is a better QB? So you dont like Dak..Ok that doesnt all the sudden make Rush a better option..lol you guys are ridiculous. Every thing about the passing game will be better with Dak throwing the ball....Just as it would if we had Josh Allen current play throwing it over Dak...this really isnt a hard concept to follow...
You can watch the games.
 

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All we heard from Garrett apologists was that he always had the #1 offense, or at least top 10.
It didn't matter that we were 8-8.
Now it's the same argument - big stats, but not winning. Dak Prescott is Jason Garrett 2.0.
Cooper Rush doesn't rack up huge stats, but we're winning.
I'll take winning.
Would it not be cool if we ever got both ?
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All we heard from Garrett apologists was that he always had the #1 offense, or at least top 10.
It didn't matter that we were 8-8.
Now it's the same argument - big stats, but not winning. Dak Prescott is Jason Garrett 2.0.
Cooper Rush doesn't rack up huge stats, but we're winning.
I'll take winning.

Are you serious?
I never ever heard or seen written anyone say…we are 8-8, but hey we got a good offense…

I will take the winning also. But you are way over stretching your Dak discord on this one.
 

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All we heard from Garrett apologists was that he always had the #1 offense, or at least top 10.
It didn't matter that we were 8-8.
Now it's the same argument - big stats, but not winning. Dak Prescott is Jason Garrett 2.0.
Cooper Rush doesn't rack up huge stats, but we're winning.
I'll take winning.


You'll take winning. Up until you pop the hood and realize the offense is trimmed down to limit the mistakes a player of Rush's ability tends to make. If for no other reason, this last four weeks should indicate what a truly unique defense Dallas has fielded. The front four, along with some nice tricks called by Quinn, put pressure on the QB and move him off his spot. There is a more than likely chance the offenses this defense has faced were not that stellar to begin with. The Eagles game will show us where they truly stand.

But Rush is not asked to carry the team. His late game drives have come for less than top ten offenses, for this season. As Parcells said, you forget what a player, squad, or team did last year when you access where they are this season. Meaning your record indicates who you truly are.

Both the Rams and Bengals are not what they were last year. That factors in.

But......having said that, and understanding Dak is a much better QB than Rush. The idea of Dak playing within his capabilities, and not being pressured to win the games all by himself, but now has a real defense, the future this season looks pretty bright when he returns. Especially since Dallas has an easy schedule.
 

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All we heard from Garrett apologists was that he always had the #1 offense, or at least top 10.
It didn't matter that we were 8-8.
Now it's the same argument - big stats, but not winning. Dak Prescott is Jason Garrett 2.0.
Cooper Rush doesn't rack up huge stats, but we're winning.
I'll take winning.
small thinking brother. At some point the bus ride will end with Cooper.

As nice as it is, Its just not that simple.

As much as you hate it. Dak is the only answer and hope you have if you want to get to the end.

Its that simple.
 

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Right now Dallas is 3rd in punting attempts we are not moving the ball we are punting and doing it quite a bit.
One doesn't equal the other.
Just because we punt doesn't mean we don't move the ball enough to change field position first.
Stats lie; the game doesn't.
 

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small thinking brother. At some point the bus ride will end with Cooper.

As nice as it is, Its just not that simple.

As much as you hate it. Dak is the only answer and hope you have if you want to get to the end.

Its that simple.
I know if Dak takes back over and loses his fans will blame Kellen Moore, Mike McCarthy, then the defense, and when all else fails, an injury.
You guys will never blame Dak. Neither will he.
 

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One doesn't equal the other.
Just because we punt doesn't mean we don't move the ball enough to change field position first.
Stats lie; the game doesn't.

We are not diving up and down the field, Dallas is failing to convert 3rd down and we are punting the ball. On good days Dallas has been able to put together a couple of drives outside of that and big play by Pollard we are not moving the ball. Every catagory pretaining to moving the ball we are toward the bottom of the league. Those are the facts. As for field position Anger has boomed a lot of big punts his long a 67 yarder. it has nothing to do with offense. It has been poor.
 

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I know if Dak takes back over and loses his fans will blame Kellen Moore, Mike McCarthy, then the defense, and when all else fails, an injury.
You guys will never blame Dak. Neither will he.

I blame Dak when he plays bad and I credit him when he has played great unlike many of you. The hypocrisy is getting thick.
 

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I'm sure gonna be expecting there to be fall off a cliff improvement between Dak and Rush offensive performance in particular against say, the Packers, Philly's and Giants second game and Vikings.
I'm surprised at how some are so in need of style points stats.

The past behavior of QB1 has been good to excellent stats against not so great competition with wins while struggling against harder teams and lack of wins. With 2 poor teams coming up after this one it's looking to become that again.

I've seen that before. I know how it ends.

The only thing left to prove is will he get over himself or not at the expense of winning games by doing it how Rush did it.

That's really the only unanswered question left. IF he can swallow his ego so that the team can win.

Gonna be fun.
 

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I blame Dak when he plays bad and I credit him when he has played great unlike many of you. The hypocrisy is getting thick.
When did Dak play great? Against Arizona or San Francisco last year?
Or was it against a 3-5 team?
All I have seen him do is choke against good teams, then pad his stats when it was too late to win.
 
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