We need a real gm. Look at philly

[Sydla]

Where did I defend Dallas or their front office? I verbatim said we suck lol.

There is nothing special about what Howie does. He spends money. Great. He doesn’t great job of structuring contracts. He seated all Georgia Bulldogs and most of them can’t play except Carter. Great.

If you want to argue he’s better than Jerry….ok lol. What a great accomplishment.

LOL.

Case in point.

Roseman is widely considered one of the 2-3 best GMs in football. To deny what he's done is pretty hilarious but kind of expected from the homer crowd. We'd be calling Jerry great if he was able to make two SBs in a few years while retooling the roster twice, getting out from under a bad QB contract, etc.

If Roseman woke up this offseason and was bored with Philly, wanted a new project and Jerry decided to step aside and hire a real GM, we should be giddy as hell if Roseman was the guy he brought in. He's that good.

 

[Nova]

Everyone is overlooking the change in coordinators.

It's a factor, but the biggest factor is probably Saquon.

I mentioned earlier in the year that this is probably the most talented offense in the last 15 years sans the QB position, and I stand by that today.

 

[ClappingCarrot]

I'm more envious of the Eagles ability to build up the trenches than any shiny weapon that they could acquire on offense. Eagles OL and DL consistently perform towards the top of the league and those units often cover up some sins that the rest of the team has.

Would love to have the young studs the Eagles DL has up front. But again, moving to get Jalen Carter was a move that a real GM makes.

 

[Blackspider214]

Philly fell apart just last year. Sure things could go well for them this year, but you never know. Detroit looks like they might get over the hump.

Philly fell apart and became proactive in making changes. Got some new coaches in here, went and got the best RB in the league. That is what a good front office does. Identifies and addresses needs. Philly was relying way too much on Hurts and the passing game. Exposing Hurts way too much. Enter Barkley. They have completely transformed from that time who fell apart last year.

Meanwhile in Dallas, we not only don't get better after our collapse, we get worse and made some terrible roster extensions on top of that.

 

[KingCorcoran]

You don’t like going to SBs.

LOL, the same lame tired arguments from the homer crowd.

The Eagles are running circles around us now all because one franchise has a real GM and the other has a stubborn, selfish boob. If you are OK with that because we won some SBs 30 years ago, have at it.

I accept that Jerry will never relinquish being the Cowboys’ acting GM. He could at least recognize what Detroit and Philly have done to be successful in recent years. Both teams have overtly concentrated on building quality offensive and defensive lines. Their GMs are not so much better than any other teams’ GMs. Both have paid monster contracts to quarterbacks. Hurts and Goff are no better than Prescott. However good they are, they’re better behind good Olines than they’d be behind an average one.

Both teams very effective Dlines mean one, maybe two, additional series per game for their respective offenses. If Jerry would just work on doing what good teams do the Cowboys could quickly become just as good.

 

[Blackspider214]

I'm more envious of the Eagles ability to build up the trenches than any shiny weapon that they could acquire on offense. Eagles OL and DL consistently perform towards the top of the league and those units often cover up some sins that the rest of the team has.

Would love to have the young studs the Eagles DL has up front. But again, moving to get Jalen Carter was a move that a real GM makes.

Eagles front office are movers and shakers. Go look at the last 5 years. Does every move work? Nope but no one does. The transition period of the Wentz/Foles era to what we see now, was really good. I believe it was 2020, Philly had very little weapons on offense. They then drafted Smith and traded for AJ Brown. Instant offense. They kept building their interior lines. Now they got Barkley. I'd put their offense in front of anyone this year, and that includes Detroit. I believe Philly's DL will wear down Detroit and cause Goff issues if they play.

But all this time, people downplayed the RB position and said they don't matter. Henry and Barkley were written off by many as washed. Funny how going to teams who actually have good coaching, schemes and a good front office can revitalize your career. Henry and Barkley immediately made those offenses better. Baltimore lost to KC because they really had no run game to establish and wear down KC. Keep moving the ball and keep Mahomes off the field. Went out and got Henry. So many laughed and downplayed this move. These are going to be 2 huge weapons come playoff time when it gets colder. It hurts trying to tackle these guys all game long.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

LOL.

Case in point.

Roseman is widely considered one of the 2-3 best GMs in football. To deny what he's done is pretty hilarious but kind of expected from the homer crowd. We'd be calling Jerry great if he was able to make two SBs in a few years while retooling the roster twice, getting out from under a bad QB contract, etc.

If Roseman woke up this offseason and was bored with Philly, wanted a new project and Jerry decided to step aside and hire a real GM, we should be giddy as hell if Roseman was the guy he brought in. He's that good.

He’s considered top 3 to the misinformed. To Eagles fans who at “In Howie we trust” I’m sure he’d be top 3.

But realistically there are much better GMs around with less first round busts then him.

Best GM in football lost in the first round just like the worst GM in football lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Eagles front office are movers and shakers. Go look at the last 5 years. Does every move work? Nope but no one does. The transition period of the Wentz/Foles era to what we see now, was really good. I believe it was 2020, Philly had very little weapons on offense. They then drafted Smith and traded for AJ Brown. Instant offense. They kept building their interior lines. Now they got Barkley. I'd put their offense in front of anyone this year, and that includes Detroit. I believe Philly's DL will wear down Detroit and cause Goff issues if they play.

But all this time, people downplayed the RB position and said they don't matter. Henry and Barkley were written off by many as washed. Funny how going to teams who actually have good coaching, schemes and a good front office can revitalize your career. Henry and Barkley immediately made those offenses better. Baltimore lost to KC because they really had no run game to establish and wear down KC. Keep moving the ball and keep Mahomes off the field. Went out and got Henry. So many laughed and downplayed this move. These are going to be 2 huge weapons come playoff time when it gets colder. It hurts trying to tackle these guys all game long.

No one said Barkley and Henry were washed unless you are listening to people on this site lol.

 

[rambo2]

LOL, the same lame tired arguments from the homer crowd.

The Eagles are running circles around us now all because one franchise has a real GM and the other has a stubborn, selfish boob. If you are OK with that because we won some SBs 30 years ago, have at it.

It's not an argument. It's a fact.

 

[rambo2]

Yup. I really wonder if they even employ pro-scouts any more.
They overrate their own, but underrated every other FA.

And it's not like they have a perfect re-signing rate either. Lately, it's had some big misses, taking up a lot of pie.

The Cowboy scouts are outstanding.

 

[Nova]

The wild thing is that Roseman is basically just doing what fans would do as a GM.

Don't get me wrong, the way he achieves it is masterful and requires a savvy professional.

But these are not some galaxy brain, subtle moves he's making. It's just the balls to make common sense moves.

For instance-- Run game not great? Just sign the best RB out there.

 

[Sydla]

He’s considered top 3 to the misinformed. To Eagles fans who at “In Howie we trust” I’m sure he’d be top 3.

But realistically there are much better GMs around with less first round busts then him.

Best GM in football lost in the first round just like the worst GM in football lol.

Oh so it's just Eagles fans that think he's one of the best GMs in football? LOL.

 

[john van brocklin]

Two pro bowl receivers. A pro bowl back and hurts. P!us Dallas goedard. Are model is to have one wr A rb two grey linemen and a pad rusher. They've never Had a bad line. How are they able to Get two receivers a rb a te and Barkley but we cant. Were always top heavy. We get a pass rusher and average d ts

We have needed a professional GM for years !!!!!!
Garrett for 9.5 years ?????????????????????
Nough said !!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sydla]

It's not an argument. It's a fact.

It's a meaningless fact in the context of this discussion and what each franchise is currently doing.

It's the sign of intellectual laziness and complete insecurity when a Cowboys fan wants to cite 3 SBs from 30 years ago as some sort of intelligent refutation of the fact that Philly simply is a better football franchise than us right now and has been for nearly the 7-8 years. And the biggest reason? Their GM is smarter than ours is.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Oh so it's just Eagles fans that think he's one of the best GMs in football? LOL.

Naw I told you Eagles fans and the misinformed….

 

[rambo2]

It's a meaningless fact in the context of this discussion and what each franchise is currently doing.

It's the sign of intellectual laziness and complete insecurity when a Cowboys fan wants to cite 3 SBs from 30 years ago as some sort of intelligent refutation of the fact that Philly simply is a better football franchise than us right now and has been for nearly the 7-8 years. And the biggest reason? Their GM is smarter than ours is.

He is. He put together a great team. Adding Barkley is pushing them over the top. It's showing what an elite back can do for you. Maybe the Cowboys get to add Jeanty, if not him maybe Johnson in the 2nd.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Naw I told you Eagles fans and the misinformed….

The misinformed including all pro football writers of America, who made Howie the only GM to win executive of the year twice in the last 15 years

 

[CowboyFrog]

BUT do we really need 2 threads on the Cowboys forum about the philly GM? we get it there are MANY GM"s that are an extreme upgrade to our situation..but seriously can the 2 "I love the Philly GM" threads be merged to one big love the eagles fest?

 

[StarOfGlory]

He’s considered top 3 to the misinformed. To Eagles fans who at “In Howie we trust” I’m sure he’d be top 3.

But realistically there are much better GMs around with less first round busts then him.

Best GM in football lost in the first round just like the worst GM in football lol.

The ability of a GM is not shown in the first round, but in the later rounds. That's where a team is filled out.

I must be one of the misinformed. I see a GM that has an offense with 8 of 11 starters drafted by the organization. 9 of the 11 backups were drafted by the organization. AJ Brown was a trade to fill a hole, and Becton was a FA pickup, after being assured by Jeff Stoutland that he could be converted to play guard. Barkley needs no explanation.

On defense, 7 of 11 starters were drafted by the organization, with the next 10 backups all drafted by the organization.

Since becoming executive vice president and general manager on June 13, 2019, his 1st round picks have been:
2019: Andre Dillard, bust
2020: Jalen Raegor, bust
2021: DaVonte Smith, hit, would be #1 on some teams, would gladly take him as our #2
2022: Jordan Davis, eats double teams and would personally drive Mazi to the airport for Davis. Run stuffer who is only getting better. Hit.
2023: Jalen Carter. Carter is probably all-pro this year. Aaron Donald himself said he is passing the torch to him. Hit
2023: Nolan Smith: After a slow start, is now proving his worth and deserving of that pick. Looks to be a hit.
2024: Quinyon Mitchell: Hit. This rookie might be all-pro his first year.

So, since fully taking over in 2019, he has two busts and five hits, a few of those hits home runs. Pretty damn good record. When he saw the debacle of last year, he wasted no time in replacing coordinators, an area he identified as an issue. His team building has stocked the team with draft picks he made. He also will take advice, which is a big reason they drafted Cam Jurgens, who has turned into a top-five center. He is currently on the Jason Kelce trajectory. I'm not saying he will be as good as Kelce (one of the top three center in NFL history) but he is legit top-five now. He has improved tremendously.

If someone doesn't perform, he is not afraid to cut bait. He doesn't let his ego get in the way of bad performances. That's why his 2019 and 2020 picks are gone.

The team is currently a legit SB contender. It is stocked with his players. Sorry, we agree about 98% of the time, but you are wrong on this one.

 

[Sydla]

The misinformed including all pro football writers of America, who made Howie the only GM to win executive of the year twice in the last 15 years

They are Eagles fans. Duh.