We overrated this DL

[perrykemp]

The Cowboys starting DL minus Hardy has a grand total of 3 sacks in 7 games.

Ie they are averaging 0.42 sacks per game.

I'm sorry, that's not good enough for a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

 

[Alexander]

The Cowboys starting DL minus Hardy has a grand total of 3 sacks in 7 games.

Ie they are averaging 0.42 sacks per game.

I'm sorry, that's not good enough for a team with Super Bowl aspirations.

I think playing a very cautious game to hold points down is impacting the rush.

We have never really had a lead to turn them loose to begin with.

Very minor concern for me at the moment.

 

[slick325]

What I do hate is how Seattle was able to run the ball so easily on their go ahead drive. As I and many others have noted ad nauseum...a talented 1tech drafted high is a necessity. That will allow the "Rushmen" to pin their ears back as well because 3rd and long is so much better for a defense than 3rd and short.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I think the D is imporved a little, but that isnt saying much. We dont have a great Defense....its run of the mill.

The money, and our bread and butter, is on the offensive side of the ball.

Having said that. I sign Hardy. I pay Hardy. And I get him counseling or whatever else is needed to work with him. He is a beast. The real deal. We need that.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

How do you get to a 4? Just curious?

By gifting them the benefit of the doubt.

I am talking seasonwide, not just yesterday.

And I still don't know if 13 points made our defense good or if we played a very badly performing offensive team.

 

[dallasdave]

By gifting them the benefit of the doubt.

I am talking seasonwide, not just yesterday.

And I still don't know if 13 points made our defense good or if we played a very badly performing offensive team.

I think you are very kind giving people the benefit of the doubt. You are good peoples.

 

[waving monkey]

Besides Hardy, the rest are jags are average at rushing the passer. That nascar package is not going to be as good as we thought.
Crawford has 5 sacks for his career, most he has ever had in a season is 3.
Hayden is a joke with a career total of 2 sacks.
Gregory is unknown right now.
Lawrence has 1 sack this year
And last is Mincey who has a career total of 26 sacks in his 8 year career, with the most he ever had in a season is 8.
They went against a horrible Seattle line and managed 0 sacks.

how many points did Seattle score how did Wilson do?

 

[JoeyBoy718]

This 0-5 thing we are in the middle of makes people cranky. Romo comes back, we start scoring more points, the DL gets more and better opportunities to get sacks, we get more sacks, Marinelli walks on water again.

Yep. If we take an early lead against Seattle, Wilson is forced to drop back and throw and it opens him up to a buffet of sacks. But since our offense couldn't do anything, Seattle had all day to chip and chip until they got 13 points.

 

[cowboyuptx]

I agree to a large extent, which is why I've been advocating over the past few weeks that with our 2016 first-round pick we should probably be looking to snag another DT, and certainly NOT a QB who wont play for 3+ seasons. If the value's there, then I wouldn't even mind if we used our top 2 picks on DT/DE. We're pretty solid on the OL, and it has paid dividends... We're also pretty good on the DL, but we really need another DT who is at least as good if not better than Tyrone Crawford.

I hope we draft almost exclusively defense. We need at least one FS/SS, a starting DT, more depth at LB, more depth at CB, and more depth across the DL. The only really pressing need I see on offense is RB. We definitely need more depth at WR too, but I kinda look at Bryce Butler like a draft pick, and also I'd prefer the Cowboys to sign a veteran WR at this point. Yes, we also need to improve the backup QB situation going into next season, but it's highly doubtful that a rookie QB would be any better than Cassel.

All that said, I still think the team was good enough right now to win a championship. The defense is legit top-10, the running game is still top-10, you add a healthy Romo and Dez, and you're a true contender this season.

 

[CF74]

Besides Hardy, the rest are jags are average at rushing the passer. That nascar package is not going to be as good as we thought.
Crawford has 5 sacks for his career, most he has ever had in a season is 3.
Hayden is a joke with a career total of 2 sacks.
Gregory is unknown right now.
Lawrence has 1 sack this year
And last is Mincey who has a career total of 26 sacks in his 8 year career, with the most he ever had in a season is 8.
They went against a horrible Seattle line and managed 0 sacks.

No we just need a real nose. Look how bad Detroit has fallen off since Suh walked...

 

[kevm3]

The defense is playing well enough. Giants just put up 42 against the Saints. We held them to 13. People have some unrealistic expectation of the defense, like they will get 10 sacks a game, 4 turnovers and hold teams to 7 pts. The problem is on the offense side of the ball. You constantly 3 and out and the other team is eventually going to score.

 

[sideon]

They have not been in a situation to really pin their ears back and go get the QB.

Also what good is a pass rush if the corners are playing off the receivers? Russell was able to get rid of the ball quick because the receivers weren't being challenged.

 

[khiladi]

Seattle was getting away with illegal blocking and picking that last drive..

 

[jjktkk]

I am surprised that someone is surprised that our D is held together by baling wire and glue and that many are journeymen or so inexperienced that they would contribute so little.
It was as if Jerra was in a daze, so confident that our offense could score so many points that a defense would be superf . . . superflou . . . would be a sidelight.
All summer I railed that we had a great offense but a below-average (if that) defense with a very very overrated secondary.
Now the cows have left home to roost and we are facing an early out of playoffs contention. And we are surprised our defense is a shambles while our offense was one QB away from being like the Raiders of old.

Now the big problem is that we need a RB and QB for our offense in the draft but the defense's needs are greater than even 3 future drafts to handle.

Your "Jerra" schtick is quite stale, but on to your ranting about the defense. What exactly did you want the Cowboys do this past off season. They signed Hardy, drafted Jones, Gregory, Wilson, and Russell. Exactly what were you expecting from this defense?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

By gifting them the benefit of the doubt.

I am talking seasonwide, not just yesterday.

And I still don't know if 13 points made our defense good or if we played a very badly performing offensive team.

So what do you think Seattle is saying yesterday? ARe they beating themselves up for not doing more against a terrible offense or are they happy with their performance?

I get what you're saying. I believe since Hardy has gotten off his suspension this defense has been solid. Solid enough that if they had a legit offense they wouldn't be losing any games. They lack the turnovers. But aside from that....no receivers have went off on them, no running backs really have went off on them, they've been putting pressure on the quarterback. Its not dominant by no means but its been good enough to win. A little better than middle of the pack IMO. It doesn't really have a identity yet but once Gregory gets back healthy I would like to believe its pass rushing will be its identity.

 

[kiheikiwi]

Also what good is a pass rush if the corners are playing off the receivers? Russell was able to get rid of the ball quick because the receivers weren't being challenged.

How many times was Carr way off his man, 2nd and 6 and Carr's playing him 10 yards deep. If you know Wilson is gonna get the ball out in 2-3 seconds why play so far off ? All frickin day !
And don't even get me started on how many tackles he wiffed on ! To me, he has now become a bigger liability than Claiborne.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Your "Jerra" schtick is quite stale, but on to your ranting about the defense. What exactly did you want the Cowboys do this past off season. They signed Hardy, drafted Jones, Gregory, Wilson, and Russell. Exactly what were you expecting from this defense?

With everything that was out there....you coudln't have asked for a better offseason. You upgraded your secondary, pass rush and linebackers. You just did it with youth. Its going to be one of those things where we don't see its impact until a year or two from now. Some guys though like Gregory before the injury and Jones were showing immediate impacts.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How many times was Carr way off his man, 2nd and 6 and Carr's playing him 10 yards deep. If you know Wilson is gonna get the ball out in 2-3 seconds why play so far off ? All frickin day !
And don't even get me started on how many tackles he wiffed on ! To me, he has now become a bigger liability than Claiborne.

I'm sorry but the defense wasn't the problem yesterday. I'm not going to fault the defense for not shutting out the Seahawks. That's nitpicking at this point.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I think you are very kind giving people the benefit of the doubt. You are good peoples.

finally you are seeing the Albert Switzer in me.

 

[nalam]

We need a big bodied somewhat athletic NT or DT in the middle to take on double teams and hold point of attack so that rest of 'Rush men ' can get home, Hayden is literal push over