We overrated this DL

[canters]

I would like to see more sacks, but we did not lose yesterday because of the Dline.

 

[Risen Star]

We who? I said it was stupid to rush to extend Crawford. Also who was sold on Lawrence? Finally, Hayden us the guy everybody wanted to replace.

We probably extended Crawford now because of what a special player he is.

Don't want to wait and get into a league wide bidding war.

 

[RS12]

We probably extended Crawford now because of what a special player he is.

Don't want to wait and get into a league wide bidding war.

Worked great with Ratliff and Marion Barber and Miles Austin too.

 

[Daillest88]

Defense is only going to get better

 

[reddyuta]

we cant stop the run.We were great against the eagles when we had Mcclain in there.HE went on IR and its been downhill from there.when we really need to stop the run we are unable to do it .The decision to bring back Hayden was a mistake ,we had o many chances to upgrade the 1tech but never pulled the trigger.do you think we can stop the eagles run game this time around?

 

[dallasdave]

Besides Hardy, the rest are jags are average at rushing the passer. That nascar package is not going to be as good as we thought.
Crawford has 5 sacks for his career, most he has ever had in a season is 3.
Hayden is a joke with a career total of 2 sacks.
Gregory is unknown right now.
Lawrence has 1 sack this year
And last is Mincey who has a career total of 26 sacks in his 8 year career, with the most he ever had in a season is 8.
They went against a horrible Seattle line and managed 0 sacks.

Hardy is TOTALLY AWESOME!!!

 

[Westcoasthabsfan]

Besides Hardy, the rest are jags are average at rushing the passer. That nascar package is not going to be as good as we thought.
Crawford has 5 sacks for his career, most he has ever had in a season is 3.
Hayden is a joke with a career total of 2 sacks.
Gregory is unknown right now.
Lawrence has 1 sack this year
And last is Mincey who has a career total of 26 sacks in his 8 year career, with the most he ever had in a season is 8.
They went against a horrible Seattle line and managed 0 sacks.

The defence played great yesterday.... they held seattle to 13 points...even if our putrid offence gets a touchdown on that great field position on the Hardy pick Dallas probably wins the game..... the play calling was the reason for the fifth straight loss in my opinion

 

[xwalker]

Thats all good, but seriously 0 sacks against a team that has given up over 30 sacks is horrible. Plus I didnt blame the defense for losing this game, just pointing something out.

Holding Lynch is the key phrase in the limited pass rush.

 

[cowboys2233]

Besides Hardy, the rest are jags are average at rushing the passer. That nascar package is not going to be as good as we thought.
Crawford has 5 sacks for his career, most he has ever had in a season is 3.
Hayden is a joke with a career total of 2 sacks.
Gregory is unknown right now.
Lawrence has 1 sack this year
And last is Mincey who has a career total of 26 sacks in his 8 year career, with the most he ever had in a season is 8.
They went against a horrible Seattle line and managed 0 sacks.

Yup -- I thought this front seven would be absolutely dominant once they were all on the field. I was wrong. Yes, I know the Seahawks only scored 13 points. But I know what I saw and that wasn't the defense I thought I would see.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

As of right now I think the defense is fine. Its about as good as it should be. The offense is the one letting us down.

I will say this in that urban and thoughtful way that I half: Yeah, when you only allow 13 points from last year's Super Bowl loser, that is a major accomplishment. but it is a illusion.
This defense on a scale of 1 to 10 is maybe a 4 on a good day. Nothing more.
Still I appreciate the defense's effort on Sunday.

 

[slick325]

This DL isn't overrated per se...I think it was constructed thinking this offense would have #9 and #88 all season which would result in the offense scoring in the high 20's (28 or more possibly). That in turn would force the opposition to have to throw to catch up. Outside of the Atlanta game there hasn't been a situation that would make them optimize how this DL is built. Keep in mind against Atlanta, Hardy and Gregory weren't playing. Seems like they envisioned the team being more akin to the Colts teams Dungy headed up where the offense scored a ton so the DL can pin their ears back and get after the QB.

I would like to see how it works with #9 and #88 in there...

 

[dallasdave]

I will say this in that urban and thoughtful way that I half: Yeah, when you only allow 13 points from last year's Super Bowl loser, that is a major accomplishment. but it is a illusion.
This defense on a scale of 1 to 10 is maybe a 4 on a good day. Nothing more.
Still I appreciate the defense's effort on Sunday.

A for effort on the defense

 

[dallasdave]

This DL isn't overrated per se...I think it was constructed thinking this offense would have #9 and #88 all season which would result in the offense scoring in the high 20's (28 or more possibly). That in turn would force the opposition to have to throw to catch up. Outside of the Atlanta game there hasn't been a situation that would make them optimize how this DL is built. Keep in mind against Atlanta, Hardy and Gregory weren't playing. Seems like they envisioned the team being more akin to the Colts teams Dungy headed up where the offense scored a ton so the DL can pin their ears back and get after the QB.

I would like to see how it works with #9 and #88 in there...

Well said my friend !!!!

 

[SultanOfSix]

No we didn't. You can't get to the QB if the QB releases the ball in under three seconds.

You also can't get to the QB if the blatant holding that opposing offensive lines get away with against our team are not actually called.

If you think the team is getting hosed by reffing elsewhere, why wouldn't you think they wouldn't be getting hosed here either?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I will say this in that urban and thoughtful way that I half: Yeah, when you only allow 13 points from last year's Super Bowl loser, that is a major accomplishment. but it is a illusion.
This defense on a scale of 1 to 10 is maybe a 4 on a good day. Nothing more.
Still I appreciate the defense's effort on Sunday.

How do you get to a 4? Just curious?

 

[jwitten82]

No we didn't. You can't get to the QB if the QB releases the ball in under three seconds.

You also can't get to the QB if the blatant holding that opposing offensive lines get away with against our team are not actually called.

If you think the team is getting hosed by reffing elsewhere, why wouldn't you think they wouldn't be getting hosed here either?

Others teams got to Wilson, and I bet next week they will too.

 

[rockj7]

This 0-5 thing we are in the middle of makes people cranky. Romo comes back, we start scoring more points, the DL gets more and better opportunities to get sacks, we get more sacks, Marinelli walks on water again.

preach Big Dog

 

[Clove]

Besides Hardy, the rest are jags are average at rushing the passer. That nascar package is not going to be as good as we thought.
Crawford has 5 sacks for his career, most he has ever had in a season is 3.
Hayden is a joke with a career total of 2 sacks.
Gregory is unknown right now.
Lawrence has 1 sack this year
And last is Mincey who has a career total of 26 sacks in his 8 year career, with the most he ever had in a season is 8.
They went against a horrible Seattle line and managed 0 sacks.

I'm glad you brought this topic up because, IMO, this is another position that the GM has overlooked. And this has been a while since he's brought in legit tackles to stuff and clog things up in the middle to allow the stud linebackers to do what they do. You build inside out. Build both lines FIRST.

 

[reddyuta]

I'm glad you brought this topic up because, IMO, this is another position that the GM has overlooked. And this has been a while since he's brought in legit tackles to stuff and clog things up in the middle to allow the stud linebackers to do what they do. You build inside out. Build both lines FIRST.

its the Marinelli way though,he is the one who insists on a lightweight 1tech.

 

[BoysfanfromCanada]

Thats all good, but seriously 0 sacks against a team that has given up over 30 sacks is horrible. Plus I didnt blame the defense for losing this game, just pointing something out.

You need a decent lead to be able to pin your ears back and go after the QB. Guess what, we haven't had one of those since the Atlanta game, but we didn't have Hardy, Gregory, Irving and McClain in that one.