We should have cut Staubach

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gimmesix said:
The reason for their layoffs is not really pertinent in skill/development comparisons.

If anything, Henson's layoff might have hurt him developmentwise worse than Staubach's because he played another sport with different demands on his arm. From what I understand (if I'm correct), Staubach did actually practice playing football aboard ship during his layoff.

like i said...

you are comparing apples . . . . to unripened oranges.
 

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gimmesix said:
It was obvious after his return from his Navy stint that he would never develop into a star-caliber quarterback.

Just look at the stats:

His first year, he played in six games and completed 23 of 47 passes (48.9 percent) with 1 TD and 2 ints.

The next year, in eight games he completed 44 of 82 passes (53.7) with 2 TDs and 8 ints.

We should have cut our losses at that point rather than try to continue to develop a quarterback coming off a layoff that would obviously keep him from ever excelling in the league.

Most excellent post....

sadly you will probably be called dumb... or told your comparision makes no sense or some one will bring up Chad Hutchision or Quacky Carter or they will tell you about naval commitment and serving the country...

don't let them deter you...for it truly was a most excellent post
 

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Considering the talent that was surrounding him, I think Henson performed admirably before getting hurt. He still needs more game reps though and I hope he goes to Europe again next year. I'm looking forward to seeing him in preseason as well.
 

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Zaxor said:
Most excellent post....

sadly you will probably be called dumb... or told your comparision makes no sense or some one will bring up Chad Hutchision or Quacky Carter or they will tell you about naval commitment and serving the country...

don't let them deter you...for it truly was a most excellent post

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Staubach was playing in a semi pro navy league while serving. He also took his yearly leave and spent it at Training Camp all 4 years. Not to mention he was a 3 YEAR starter for Navy, who back then played all the big boys. Henson spent 3 years TOTALLY away from the game and only started 8 games. BIG DIFFERENCE.
 

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AdamJT13 said:
Henson played three seasons in college.

Bust wasn't he on the bench for most of that time behind Brady? I seem to recall that he only started a few games (8 according to Burmfard) while Staubach started for at least 3 years.
 
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jksmith269 said:
Point taken..... But let me ask you this. How do you think Roger would have fared in NFLE? I think he would have excelled but you know who isn't he's just been so-so IMO. Roger also had leadership skills which I don't see Henson having as of yet maybe its the military that assisted Roger there hey I have an idea lets send Drew off to the Navy for 2 years and see if it helps him. Nah he would never last....You actually have to make a commentment to something and stick with it in the Military....



right there is the huge difference -- intangibles. the ability to elevate your team and teammates. only a very few have "it"...

as for the point on being patient with henson, i'll buy that. after all, he is the only game in town, so to speak; who else is there?
 

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gimmesix said:
Do you really think I would advocate cutting a Hall of Fame quarterback?

I honestly did not think anyone would not "get" this thread.

Well, this thread is completely useless, because Tom Landry should have been fired long before Staubach was even thought about and probably never would have been a Cowboy anyway...right?

LOL...believe me...I get it...LOL
 

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Roger was a general, a field general. And his four years in the military VS Henson's time in Baseball are lightyears apart. Henson is wishy-washy couldn't make his mind up about a simple thing like Baseball or Football. Roger showed so much more. A young man serving 4 years in the military builds some serious character. I challenge anyone to show me proof of Henson having any character characteristics to the likes of Staubach upon him coming into the league four years late.

Omg shoot this thread.
 

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gimmesix said:
No, I just don't like people drawing conclusions about a developing player before the evidence is complete.

Imagine if Dallas had given up on Staubach after two seasons because his numbers didn't support continuing his development. Instead, patience with a player who was behind the learning curve because of his layoff paid off for the Cowboys.
Get used to it Gimme. Its human nature. I dont like a lot of things pple do either, but they still do them, just as they will continue to do them even after you have voiced your displeasure. Imagine if pple the world over had just a little commom sense. Alas, its a rare individual these days that has any at all.
 

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AmericasTeam81 said:
no comparison between Staubach and Henson buddy. Henson just doesnt have the proper mechanics

The comparison is the time missed. Roger came in with a lot of things to work on as well and did so on a team who was already a playoff caliber team. If you think Roger hit the ground running from day 1 then you did not see him play at the start of his career.
 

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Doomsday101 said:
The comparison is the time missed. Roger came in with a lot of things to work on as well and did so on a team who was already a playoff caliber team. If you think Roger hit the ground running from day 1 then you did not see him play at the start of his career.

And when I think of Roger, and the old video I've seen of him - "mechanics" isn't the first word that comes to mind.....
 

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Zippy Speedster said:
I challenge anyone to show me proof of Henson having any character characteristics to the likes of Staubach upon him coming into the league four years late.

I challenge you to prove otherwise.

Good luck.
 

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superpunk said:
And when I think of Roger, and the old video I've seen of him - "mechanics" isn't the first word that comes to mind.....

No doubt Roger was a one of a kind but even he had a rough go of it at the start of his career. One of the biggest helps to Roger in my opinion was the fact he was surrounded by some very good talent already in place as well as a vet QB in place. When the game started to slow down for Roger his career took off.
 

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gimmesix said:
Do you really think I would advocate cutting a Hall of Fame quarterback?

I honestly did not think anyone would not "get" this thread.

youre right, it's amazing that even 1 person could not immediately see you were using sarcasm to make a point..
 

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I 'got' your comparison to Henson.
Which even more qualified it for the 'dumbest post thread'.
 

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goshan said:
I 'got' your comparison to Henson.
Which even more qualified it for the 'dumbest post thread'.
If it is so dumb, why do you continue to read it? :confused: :bang2:
 

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Comparing Henson to Staubach is reaching like a 7 foot center going for the butter halfway across the table.
 
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