We should have drafted an RB

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Randle will average more than 3.8 behind our road graders.

Im talking Murray.

It was noticable he was losing alot of burst the 2nd half of the season. And given his workload last year and his injury issues before, I think it was the start of his deline

I said somewhere, Murray's prime ended week 12 of last year
 

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All these threads and all these proponents of running back by committee, or allowing a play maker to leave the team because of ghosts like what happened to other players with near four-hundred carries, or you can get a running back anywhere, will be very silent if this team takes a dip because they now have to rely on the passing game.

Dez is terrific, and Romo is terrific, and even Beasley is pretty good. But teams sit on the passing game because this team cannot produce a running attack, even behind this line, and all you will hear around here are crickets.

Nate Newton sounded off within the last two weeks about the running game in regard to when Dallas had what was essentially a pretty great offensive line. "Until Emmitt got there, we weren't as good."

The move was not drafting a RB but keeping the one you had. And it has since been revealed they could have paid him the money and still done all the moves they have done. Fact is they might have gotten him for 7 a year and just guaranteed a little more money.

My one consistent complaint about the front office, read Jerry and now Stephen, is they sometimes outsmart themselves by wheeling and dealing. I said in another thread this RunDMC thing felt like the Roy Williams trade. Of course there were a number of people reminding me of the draft picks and money. And of course my point slipped by.

McFadden is done, just like RW11 was done. Had nothing to do with money or draft picks. It had to do with Jerry buying a cow that is now out of milk.

The Roy Williams comparison was bad then and it's bad now. The problem with it is that there is no comparison because the costs aren't in any way similar.
 

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Most of us were saying immediately after the draft we should have drafted an RB. It was graded out to be a strong RB draft and with a need it made sense to roll the dice on one. It made sense not to take one in the first round with the 2 top backs off the board and with the Cowboys needing a pass rush Gregory was the right choice in the second round. However the Chaz Green pick is looking questionable because his future could be up in the air with his injury. We'll have to keep track of the all the backs taken after the second round to see if the Cowboys missed on an opportunity.
 

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You have to wonder with Chaz Green's injury situation if the Cowboys aren't regretting not looking harder at an RB in the 3rd round. Hopefully Green doesn't end up another Jacob Rogers I'm sure most remember that situation. Had the Cowboys knew they were going to end up with Collins I think they would have passed on Green and taken an RB or another position.
 

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The Roy Williams comparison was bad then and it's bad now. The problem with it is that there is no comparison because the costs aren't in any way similar.

Cost was not what I was addressing. nd even after i stated that, you cling to this position.

Jerry went out and got a spare then thinking it would fix the ills of the team. He went bargain shopping now, but he still got a spare.
 

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You have to wonder with Chaz Green's injury situation if the Cowboys aren't regretting not looking harder at an RB in the 3rd round.

Not one bit. They knew Green was injured when they drafted him. They valued a swing OT more than a RB. So that is what they drafted.
 

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Not one bit. They knew Green was injured when they drafted him. They valued a swing OT more than a RB. So that is what they drafted.

Green was frequently injured in college and the Cowboys took a chance because they needed a replacement for Jeremy Parnell. They didn't anticipate Green needing hip surgery which casts some doubt on the selection.
 

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Cost was not what I was addressing. nd even after i stated that, you cling to this position.

Jerry went out and got a spare then thinking it would fix the ills of the team. He went bargain shopping now, but he still got a spare.

One doesn't cling to common sense. The people railing against are the clingers.
 

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Green was frequently injured in college and the Cowboys took a chance because they needed a replacement for Jeremy Parnell. They didn't anticipate Green needing hip surgery which casts some doubt on the selection.

The only doubt it cast is on his availability to the team not the selection. You draft for long term not the next few months. Michael Irvin broke his leg his rookie season. The Cowboys certainly didn't anticipate that. The only doubt we had was the status of his health going into the next training camp. Long term - no worries. Green has a history of nagging injuries so well see what happens when he gets healthy. Overall it doesn't change the fact the Cowboys still preferred him over a RB.
 

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The thing with HB right now is that its a huge if. But its not like we are devoid of ability.

IF one or more of our HB steps up, getting Damien Wilson and not Buck Allen looks alot better
 

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The only doubt it cast is on his availability to the team not the selection. You draft for long term not the next few months. Michael Irvin broke his leg his rookie season. The Cowboys certainly didn't anticipate that. The only doubt we had was the status of his health going into the next training camp. Long term - no worries. Green has a history of nagging injuries so well see what happens when he gets healthy. Overall it doesn't change the fact the Cowboys still preferred him over a RB.

If he's not available due to undergoing hip surgery that does cast some doubt on the selection especially considering he was limited in college due to injuries. Anytime a player has hip surgery there might not be any long term outlook with them. Irvin didn't have an injury history coming out of college and he didn't break his leg his rookie year he tore his ACL during his second season. The Cowboys haven't had much luck drafting players with an injury history.
 

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If he's not available due to undergoing hip surgery that does cast some doubt on the selection especially considering he was limited in college due to injuries. Anytime a player has hip surgery there might not be any long term outlook with them. Irvin didn't have an injury history coming out of college and he didn't break his leg his rookie year he tore his ACL during his second season. The Cowboys haven't had much luck drafting players with an injury history.

He had both hips replaced...he will be fine in a few days. smh
 

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Irvin didn't have an injury history coming out of college and he didn't break his leg his rookie year he tore his ACL during his second season.
That's right. Glad you agree with me on the rest.
 

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That's right. Glad you agree with me on the rest.

We agree they preferred Green over the remaining RB's that were available but I didn't agree with the pick then and I don't agree with it now we'll just have to see how it goes. If Green continues to be plagued by injuries or just never develops into a solid player and an RB the Cowboys could have had in the 3rd round or later develops into a stud it will certainly lead to some heated discussion if none of the backs we currently have pan out leaving the team searching for a back next offseason.
 

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Jeremy Langford 9 carries 80 yards for Chicago

He was drafted in the 4th round he won't get a lot of opportunity this season with Forte ahead of him unless he's injured but he might have gotten a great opportunity with the Cowboys this season and beyond. It's only preseason will be interesting to see how he develops.
 

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He was drafted in the 4th round he won't get a lot of opportunity this season with Forte ahead of him unless he's injured but he might have gotten a great opportunity with the Cowboys this season and beyond. It's only preseason will be interesting to see how he develops.

Im just keeping an eye on him BC I wanted Dallas to draft him.
 

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The only doubt it cast is on his availability to the team not the selection. You draft for long term not the next few months. Michael Irvin broke his leg his rookie season. The Cowboys certainly didn't anticipate that. The only doubt we had was the status of his health going into the next training camp. Long term - no worries. Green has a history of nagging injuries so well see what happens when he gets healthy. Overall it doesn't change the fact the Cowboys still preferred him over a RB.

Agreed. However it also doesn't change the fact that Stephen Jones has said recently how they feel they missed out by not taking a RB in the draft. People like to act that there is nothing to debate since the front office decided to not draft a RB. None of us including the front office can know at this point if not taking a running back was the right decision. Based on Stephen Jones comments it sounds like the front office has decided they made a mistake...so why do so many fans feel the need to defend a decision that the team isn't even defending at this point?
 

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Jeremy Langford 9 carries 80 yards for Chicago

Josh Robinson went even later (6th round) and he looks pretty good. Never stops going forward, a little squatty and can squeeze into tight creases. Even looked good as a pass protector. Colts are excited about him and rightfully so. Rue factor player on the Cowboys is Ryan Russell in this case.
 
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