We will rush for 2500+ next year

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2500 yards is up there.

It's not out of the realm of possibility. I wouldn't bet on that many yards myself but with this massive, athletic, powerful, talented offensive line, it wouldn't shock me.

I am not on the ledge as much as most here about our running back situation.

We have some talent in our offensive backfield with a mix of experience and a guy that has the mentality that he has something to prove as well in Williams. The focal point is the point of attack and up front with this offense now. That's what we have drafted it to be with what we have put into the offensive line.

We'll hand the ball off 35 plus times a ball game next year and we'll be successful doing it. No matter who is totin' the rock.

Yes I agree about the run quota. I believe we will double down from last sasons progress.
 

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how is it Murray got greedy and Dallas didnt? Dallas could have footed the bill to keep him, they chose not to. Dallas is taking a big gamble on being greedy instead of paying what they knew they had. I am personally not down on Dallas for that because i feel personally they are banking on his injuries. But than again McFadden is not known for being healthy either. So there goes that theory.

Dallas got greedy tho, should have paid the bill they caused. You make a player better than he is, you cant blame him for other teams buying the hype. Hopefully for me it will be fun to watch the Eagles witness it after paying the bill. But i dont begrudge Murray, nor call im greedy.

I think the "greedy" characterization is grossly inaccurate. In my own personal opinion, neither entity was greedy. Murray had a figure in mind that he felt he was worth. The Cowboys had a budget for his position that fit within the overall team budget. what Murray wanted was more than what Dallas had budgeted. It happens in businesses every day.

if you interview for a job, and the business offers you a position, at a salary that is less then what you wish to make, you have two options. One is to take their offer, and the other is to go work somewhere else. That's exactly what happened with Dallas in Murray. To say that either one of them was greedy is just silly.
 

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The running game "struggled" from lack of use during the '13 season and the team ended up 5th in scoring.

The running game was hitting on all cylinders last year and ended up... 5th in scoring.

Ok, that was a weird random stat. How far did the Cowboys go in 2013 again?
Does being 5th in scoring corelate to how far we make it?

Our running game will be a joke this year and instead we will try to rely on Romo more which is a recipe for disaster.

Bad history is starting to repeat itself again.
 

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Yes I agree about the run quota. I believe we will double down from last sasons progress.

You can't just predict a number like that and not have solid backs to even run the ball. No RB on this team could even hold Murrays jock strap.
 

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You can't just predict a number like that and not have solid backs to even run the ball. No RB on this team could even hold Murrays jock strap.

You've been on this board and I have read your stuff for a hot minute.
Sometimes I agree with you, sometimes we have clashed ugly over the past couple of years.
All that notwithstanding you're a solid poster. Serious. Even when you wanted Romo's head on a pike all those many posts ago...
 

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Ok, that was a weird random stat. How far did the Cowboys go in 2013 again?
Does being 5th in scoring corelate to how far we make it?

Our running game will be a joke this year and instead we will try to rely on Romo more which is a recipe for disaster.

Bad history is starting to repeat itself again.

Where did the defense rank in '13 as opposed to '14?

We can play this "game" all night and I'm not interested.

You've decided everything with the Cowboys sucks, and if that's how you want to approach the coming season... so be it.
 

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You can't just predict a number like that and not have solid backs to even run the ball. No RB on this team could even hold Murrays jock strap.

Yes, you can predict that. I just did.

We can run the ball as many times as we want next year. A team will have a hard time running the ball if they don't have an offense with an offensive line capable of opening holes on a consistent basis. That's not our problem.

We can get somebody to carry the football. We have four running backs on our team now that can have success behind the best offensive line in football. Demarco Murray had one healthy year, one. He is replaceable and it's really not that hard to replace him.

He wasn't the game changer, our offensive line was and will continue to be.
 

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You've decided everything with the Cowboys sucks, and if that's how you want to approach the coming season... so be it.

I love this team but refuse to wear blinders. Our RB's are a complete joke right now. That is my opinion and you have yours.. but please don't make things up about me that you have zero clue about.
 

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I love this team but refuse to wear blinders. Our RB's are a complete joke right now. That is my opinion and you have yours.. but please don't make things up about me that you have zero clue about.

Time will tell who's right.
 

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I love this team but refuse to wear blinders. Our RB's are a complete joke right now. That is my opinion and you have yours.. but please don't make things up about me that you have zero clue about.

I understand what you are saying man. I would have liked to have nabbed a running back in the draft as well, but I don't think our running back situation is a bad as you do.

Demarco Murray had a great year, but I am a firm believer that he is a product of his surroundings. He was here for four years and was injury riddled for three of them. Or was it him here for five years and he was injury riddled for four? Doesn't matter really. The man had one good year coincidentally when our offensive line arrived on the scene as the most feared, most talented line in the game.

I don't think Mcfadden will stay healthy next year but I do like the committee we have on this football team and am pretty sure they can handle the load behind what we have here. If they don't, our front office will bring in one of the plethora of running backs that will be available.
 

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I don't think so. Not with this core group of runningbacks. Two of them, Mcfadden and Williams are damaged goods. Randle is not a workhorse and Dunbar is nothing more than a situational player.

Thats a pretty pathetic group to entrust with the best blocking oline in the NFL. We could and should have done better then this during the draft. But we didn't. So no, we won't be gaining more than what we had last year.

Smarter football minds than yours disagree. The consensus is our RB corp is fine. I'm sorry you can't see it now, but you will. Then you can apologize.
 

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I understand what you are saying man. I would have liked to have nabbed a running back in the draft as well, but I don't think our running back situation is a bad as you do.

Demarco Murray had a great year, but I am a firm believer that he is a product of his surroundings. He was here for four years and was injury riddled for three of them. Or was it him here for five years and he was injury riddled for four? Doesn't matter really. The man had one good year coincidentally when our offensive line arrived on the scene as the most feared, most talented line in the game.

I don't think Mcfadden will stay healthy next year but I do like the committee we have on this football team and am pretty sure they can handle the load behind what we have here. If they don't, our front office will bring in one of the plethora of running backs that will be available.

I'm not upset we let Murray go, I thought under the circumstances it was the right move to make but I also thought we were going to get someone in here close to Murray's ability. So, let's not confuse the topic.

Our running game is the reason our team was so successful last year. Teams had to put an extra man in the box just to try and stop it and that opened up the passing game for us. Plenty of games teams just couldn't stop our running game even with them stacking the box.

You don't have an amazing season like we did due to our running game and then bring in Mcfadden who ONLY had one full season since 2008 and has had the lowest YPC in the entire NFL and then just drop the mic like everything is fine. Yes, our Oline is fantastic but in order to take full advantage of that you have to have a solid running back. Last year we proved the recipe for success on this team was a dominant run game. We need a solid back to do that again.

Did we need to improve the defense? Absolutely and we did. Before the draft alone we had the addition of Hardy who is an elite pass rusher, we got Sean Lee back, and we will now have a second year Lawrence. We needed to also add more through the draft and we did. What we shouldn't have done is completely ignored the running game.. which is what got us to the 2nd round of the playoffs and almost to the the NFC championship game.

If I would have known we would start the season with DMC, Randle...a brain dead underwear thief and Williams..a guy who has been in the league since 2011 and has only played in 5 games was going to be our RB's, I would have been screaming to keep Murray.

You don't mess with what works for you and expect the same great results the next year.
 

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Smarter football minds than yours disagree. The consensus is our RB corp is fine. I'm sorry you can't see it now, but you will. Then you can apologize.

Consensus from who? There was not a single football analyst, scout, pundit, or anything else who didn't think the Cowboys needed a RB from the draft. Yeah I know, media, blah blah blah, but the prevailing opinion from just about anyone not wearing blue and silver glasses is that you can't replace Murray with Darren McFadden and some guys who have never done anything.

If you want to think it's fine, good on you. But not to acknowledge that it is a massive gamble to have a guy who has averaged 3.35 YPC the last three years (when not hurt), and 3 other guys who have a grand total of 243 carries in the NFL between them is a lock to be an above average group, no matter what OLine, is flat out ridiculous, If the FO is being honest with themselves they have to understand this is a huge throw of the dice, and so should you.
 

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Consensus from who? There was not a single football analyst, scout, pundit, or anything else who didn't think the Cowboys needed a RB from the draft. Yeah I know, media, blah blah blah, but the prevailing opinion from just about anyone not wearing blue and silver glasses is that you can't replace Murray with Darren McFadden and some guys who have never done anything.

If you want to think it's fine, good on you. But not to acknowledge that it is a massive gamble to have a guy who has averaged 3.35 YPC the last three years (when not hurt), and 3 other guys who have a grand total of 243 carries in the NFL between them is a lock to be an above average group, no matter what OLine, is flat out ridiculous, If the FO is being honest with themselves they have to understand this is a huge throw of the dice, and so should you.

I'll be waiting for your apology sometime during the season, just the same.
 

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I'll be waiting for your apology sometime during the season, just the same.

What should apologize for, my opinion that they took the wrong approach to this?

If McFadden runs for 3000 yards I have no apologies, I think the odds of him doing so at this point are not good. That doesn't make this the right move because the team lucked out.
 

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What should apologize for, my opinion that they took the wrong approach to this?

If McFadden runs for 3000 yards I have no apologies, I think the odds of him doing so at this point are not good. That doesn't make this the right move because the team lucked out.

You act as if Murray was the rushing leader all by himself. If you really believe that, then perhaps you would prefer to be an Eagles fan for the coming season. Then you can once again cheer on your boy. You are so blind to the idea that the O-line had the biggest part in Murray's success last year, you can't fathom how easily he will be replaced. It's not a gamble or luck or any other intangible that you can't wrap your mind around. Our current group of RBs will be fine behind our O-line. You go ahead and worry yourself about it if you must but you are wasting your time and energy doing so. It's obvious the brass isn't going to heed your advice so just relax and trust in the plan... or go find your peace of mind as an Eagle fan.
 

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You act as if Murray was the rushing leader all by himself. If you really believe that, then perhaps you would prefer to be an Eagles fan for the coming season. Then you can once again cheer on your boy. You are so blind to the idea that the O-line had the biggest part in Murray's success last year, you can't fathom how easily he will be replaced. It's not a gamble or luck or any other intangible that you can't wrap your mind around. Our current group of RBs will be fine behind our O-line. You go ahead and worry yourself about it if you must but you are wasting your time and energy doing so. It's obvious the brass isn't going to heed your advice so just relax and trust is the plan... or go find your peace of mind as an Eagle fan.

Murray can rot in Philly. Look up my posting history. I was an active proponent of letting Murray walk. Heck even if we kept him I don't think he would replicate what he did last year here. I even argued against many that I liked the McFadden signing, because I thought it was a kick the tires deal to make him the 3rd down back, not the feature back.I like McFadden, I just don't know what is left in the tank, and depending on him is a bad risk/reward ratio move to me.

I thought more was going to be done to address Murray leaving, not a prayer on guy who has not produced in years and bunch of guys who never have. That's my issue.
 

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Murray can rot in Philly. Look up my posting history. I was an active proponent of letting Murray walk. Heck even if we kept him I don't think he would replicate what he did last year here. I even argued against many that I liked the McFadden signing, because I thought it was a kick the tires deal to make him the 3rd down back, not the feature back.I like McFadden, I just don't know what is left in the tank, and depending on him is a bad risk/reward ratio move to me.

I thought more was going to be done to address Murray leaving, not a prayer on guy who has not produced in years and bunch of guys who never have. That's my issue.

We both see this the exact same way. I was all for letting Murray walk but that was because I didn't want us to overpay for him and I thought we would bring in someone just as good or close. If I would have known we weren't going to do jack squat to address the running game I would have strongly wanted Murray here.
 
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