We will rush for 2500+ next year

JoeKing

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Murray can rot in Philly. Look up my posting history. I was an active proponent of letting Murray walk. Heck even if we kept him I don't think he would replicate what he did last year here. I even argued against many that I liked the McFadden signing, because I thought it was a kick the tires deal to make him the 3rd down back, not the feature back.I like McFadden, I just don't know what is left in the tank, and depending on him is a bad risk/reward ratio move to me.

I thought more was going to be done to address Murray leaving, not a prayer on guy who has not produced in years and bunch of guys who never have. That's my issue.

The brass has said all along that they would not opt to address RB during the draft. Why would you think otherwise? Have faith in the O-line.
 

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We both see this the exact same way. I was all for letting Murray walk but that was because I didn't want us to overpay for him and I thought we would bring in someone just as good or close. If I would have known we weren't going to do jack squat to address the running game I would have strongly wanted Murray here.

Yup. We have a 2-3 year window with Romo and when he is gone we go back to being terrible again for a while. I'm not interested with farting around with Jerry's past loves or a bunch of projects at one of the most key positions on this team as it is currently built.
 

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The brass has said all along that they would not opt to address RB during the draft. Why would you think otherwise? Have faith in the O-line.

And I don't agree with them.

The line may be good and all, but other teams have really good D-lines too you know....
 

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I'm not arrogant, I just believe our line will make a tremondous jump this year. Hey I might be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.[/quote]

They can make a huge jump, but that don't mean any JAG RB is going to do well.
 

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And I don't agree with them.

The line may be good and all, but other teams have really good D-lines too you know....

So because you disagree with them, you think you can wish for their stated course of action not to be true?
 

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So because you disagree with them, you think you can wish for their stated course of action not to be true?

No, all I can do is complain to you on a message board that I think what they are doing this wrong. Like I have for the last 20 years we haven't won anything.

Such is life.
 

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No, all I can do is complain to you on a message board that I think what they are doing this wrong. Like I have for the last 20 years we haven't won anything.

Such is life.

Message received. Is it wrong to build a top quality O-line through the draft? The Cowboys time is coming again, keep the faith.
 

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Is it wrong to build a top quality O-line through the draft?

We did. I just wanted to put a top quality RB behind it.

In fact one of the reasons I was very ready to let Murray go was because I wanted to see someone a little more explosive back there who didn't leave some of the yards and TDs on the field I thought he did.

I wasn't expecting us to take a step backwards instead.
 

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We did. I just wanted to put a top quality RB behind it.

In fact one of the reasons I was very ready to let Murray go was because I wanted to see someone a little more explosive back there who didn't leave some of the yards and TDs on the field I thought he did.

I wasn't expecting us to take a step backwards instead.

Taking a step back is your opinion. It remains to be seen how the RB corp will perform. Your lack of respect for our current RBs seems to be why you can't see the positives in the current RB plan. Perhaps it will make more since once you've seen it work.
 

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w ell there will be cuts at RB if we need some a long time until Sept
 

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Your lack of respect for our current RBs seems to be why you can't see the positives in the current RB plan..

You have a guy who has been a colossal bust given his draft expectations, a guy with 120 career carries, a guy with 80 career carries and a guy with 50 career carries. In fact the guy with 50 carries has had ONE successful season EVER since he left high school. The guy with 120 carries is under investigation by the league for domestic abuse.

I'm very interested to hear this, other than blindly trusting the coaches, what should I "respect" about this group of RBs?
 

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You have a guy who has been a colossal bust given his draft expectations, a guy with 120 career carries, a guy with 80 career carries and a guy with 50 career carries. In fact the guy with 50 carries has had ONE successful season EVER since he left high school. The guy with 120 carries is under investigation by the league for domestic abuse.

I'm very interested to hear this, other than blindly trusting the coaches, what should I "respect" about this group of RBs?

You are doing your damnedest to convince yourself you have a point but it's falling on deaf ears here. Go find someone else that will buy your bull.
 

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Smarter football minds than yours disagree. The consensus is our RB corp is fine. I'm sorry you can't see it now, but you will. Then you can apologize.

That smarter football mind(s) your referring to is Jerry Jones. Yes I do disagree with most of the time and frankly for some unexpected reason, I got it right.

But thats okay, you can believe the spin if you want. I'll stick to my own intuition and hope that I'm wrong.
 

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That smarter football mind(s) your referring to is Jerry Jones. Yes I do disagree with most of the time and frankly for some unexpected reason, I got it right.

But thats okay, you can believe the spin if you want. I'll stick to my own intuition and hope that I'm wrong.

Jerry's dime so he can do what he wants. If you were spending your money to make these decisions, then you would be right, not before.
 

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Jerry's dime so he can do what he wants. If you were spending your money to make these decisions, then you would be right, not before.

Who's talking about Jerry's money? Were talking about the stupid moves he's made throughout the years which you referred to as someone knowing more about football. I also buy Cowboys gear and have seen some of their games live. So that I'm entitled to state my opinion about the team I like and no one can tell me otherwise.
 

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Who's talking about Jerry's money? Were talking about the stupid moves he's made throughout the years which you referred to as someone knowing more about football. I also buy Cowboys gear and have seen some of their games live. So that I'm entitled to state my opinion about the team I like and no one can tell me otherwise.

I did not name Jerry as a smarter football mind so you need to back up and rethink your diatribe when addressing me. Be respectful instead of putting words in my mouth. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore than anyone else's. The FO isn't asking for our opinion on how to run their team. Buy all the Cowboys gear you want, it doesn't make you anymore of an expert on football operation than the next guy and it most certainly doesn't add merit to your drivel.
 

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I did not name Jerry as a smarter football mind so you need to back up and rethink your diatribe when addressing me. Be respectful instead of putting words in my mouth. Your opinion doesn't matter anymore than anyone else's. The FO isn't asking for our opinion on how to run their team. Buy all the Cowboys gear you want, it doesn't make you anymore of an expert on football operation than the next guy and it most certainly doesn't add merit to your drivel.

Not putting words in your mouth. You said that smarter football minds disagree with me. So who are this smarter football minds that your referring to other than Jerry? If it ain't who then? So you make no sense with your accusations.

Like I stated before I'm entitled to my opinions just like your entitled to yours. So who are you to say that I'm not entitled to have my own opinions? Your being hypocritical to say the least.
 

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Not putting words in your mouth. You said that smarter football minds disagree with me. So who are this smarter football minds that your referring to other than Jerry? If it ain't who then? So you make no sense with your accusations.

Like I stated before I'm entitled to my opinions just like your entitled to yours. So who are you to say that I'm not entitled to have my own opinions? Your being hypocritical to say the least.

You said I was calling Jerry a smarter football mind so yes you are putting words in my mouth. Man up and claim your words, then we can move on. Who I am talking about does not matter when you are going to make up my words for me.
 

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I'm not upset we let Murray go, I thought under the circumstances it was the right move to make but I also thought we were going to get someone in here close to Murray's ability. So, let's not confuse the topic.

Our running game is the reason our team was so successful last year. Teams had to put an extra man in the box just to try and stop it and that opened up the passing game for us. Plenty of games teams just couldn't stop our running game even with them stacking the box.

You don't have an amazing season like we did due to our running game and then bring in Mcfadden who ONLY had one full season since 2008 and has had the lowest YPC in the entire NFL and then just drop the mic like everything is fine. Yes, our Oline is fantastic but in order to take full advantage of that you have to have a solid running back. Last year we proved the recipe for success on this team was a dominant run game. We need a solid back to do that again.

Did we need to improve the defense? Absolutely and we did. Before the draft alone we had the addition of Hardy who is an elite pass rusher, we got Sean Lee back, and we will now have a second year Lawrence. We needed to also add more through the draft and we did. What we shouldn't have done is completely ignored the running game.. which is what got us to the 2nd round of the playoffs and almost to the the NFC championship game.

If I would have known we would start the season with DMC, Randle...a brain dead underwear thief and Williams..a guy who has been in the league since 2011 and has only played in 5 games was going to be our RB's, I would have been screaming to keep Murray.

You don't mess with what works for you and expect the same great results the next year.

What works? Who is the one confused here?

Murray couldn't stay healthy to save his life until last year and even then he couldn't stay healthy as he broke a bone in his hand. He toughed it out and didn't miss any time to his credit, but he still got injured.

His emergence and success was correlated strictly to how this offensive line came together, pure and simple. We may not have a running back on our roster as good as him, but the gap is not nearly as wide as you make it out to be. Demarco Murray left alot on the field that a much more talented back would have taken. You know it, I know it and so does our front office and staff and that's exactly why we let our rivals pay him something he wasn't nearly worth.

You are right. You don't mess with something that works and we haven't. This offensive line is what carried this team last year and it will do it again.

Going your route and overpaying players what that aren't nearly worth it is what got us 20 years of loserville. I'm glad Jerry finally knows what is going on and has built this team on offense the way it should be.

We are going to run the ball a ton next year, just like we did last year, and we are going to have the same success if not more. Meanwhile, your boy Demarco will be in Philadelphia on the injury report with Sam Bradford and Ryan Matthews for stubbing his toe just like he was here for three years.
 
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