Twitter: Werder on why Jerry paid Zeke

conner01

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Agree on the draft stuff.

Disagree on the structure.

What's common is the upcoming year salary guaranteed within the first few days of the league year. That's quite common. The also rans and youngsters have to wait until after week one.

Elliott has/had the season AFTER the upcoming one guaranteed at that same time.

It was basically 4/60 fully guaranteed and why he is still on the team, assuming a cut over renegotiation.

Not bashing the guy, but he grossly underperforms the contract and needed to go as soon as reasonably possible, which isn't even after THIS season due to the structure.

His 2022 salary was guaranteed six months ago.
Mccaffeey has about the same structure
His next year is already guaranteed and part of 2023 is already guaranteed
 

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Wish you could go back to revisit.......yes we thought there was a chance he would hold out but NOT before the start of his 4th season, of course meaning he'd only played 3 years. In fact, not sure if you remember but there was not a lot of discussion about his contract among fans coz we knew he had 2 years left. Stephen even mention few times during the 2018 season he needed Zeke to be patient.

When zeke didn’t show up first day of TC that should have been the clue right there. Lol
 

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And it only continues the trend of round pegs in square holes.

Let's go back to Demarco Murray hitting free agency after leading the league in rushing.

The story was that the Cowboys had built an offensive line so good that they didn't need to spend big on a running back.

Everyone with me so far?

Then what did the Cowboys ultimately do?

Not only did they use the #4 overall pick - their highest draft asset in years - on a running back, but they then paid him tops in the league at his position. This after seeing the previous disastrous contracts given to guys like Le'veon Bell and Todd Gurley, where the teams dumb enough to get into those deals couldn't wait to get out of them!

All the while, this team has gone from one pass-happy offensive coordinator to another - From Garrett himself, to Scott Linehan, to Kellen Moore.

Be what you are! And invest accordingly! You don't build a team behind an offensive line and running game only to shift to being a passing team! It's an absolute waste of limited resources and you're doing yourselves and everyone involved a disservice.

And yet that's exactly what this team has done and continues to do.

Very well said!!
 

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Guessing it doesn't make many feel better but it's true. I think the holdout had a bigger impact than saving Jason's job. It caught them totally off guard, they simply didn't see it coming. They only had two options......pay him or call his bluff ( seeing if he wait until Oct to report ).


That makes zero sense. That’s Jerry though. Why make a Jason Garret decision? Make football decisions only.
 

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Lol Thanks JG. One last departing gift.

Zeke’s a good player but that contract is bad. At least he earns some of it unlike a few others.

Jason Garrett is the gift that keeps on giving the whooooooole year, Clark.
 

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Guessing it doesn't make many feel better but it's true. I think the holdout had a bigger impact than saving Jason's job. It caught them totally off guard, they simply didn't see it coming. They only had two options......pay him or call his bluff ( seeing if he wait until Oct to report ).


Too bad the Cowboys don't have an accountable GM on the job. That's a fantasy football club move.
 

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Fans are weird…you get more respect running for 2k yards on a bad team then you do running for 900 yards on a contender…

What's weird about that? You can root for the team while also acknowledging that they have made bad decisions.

I wouldn't even say Zeke is a "bad decision" at this point, but his contract doesn't look great for what he provides.
 

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Lol Thanks JG. One last departing gift.


Zeke’s a good player but that contract is bad. At least he earns some of it unlike a few others.

I don't know what the bigger lesson should be, don't take a RB that high to begin with or don't resign him. As you said, he's a good player but he'll never be worth the contract
 

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Exactly right. The difference is it appears to work a little better now.

But they can't go getting rid of Quinn in two years and start all over again if he doesn't win.

That's the problem when there's no organizational philosophy, it's about whichever assistant has Jerry's ear at the moment.
Unfortunately as a Dallas resident, the Mavs seem to have the same problem.
 

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At the end of the day....if you want Jason Garrett to be successful, you have to supply him with the most talent. He was not an X and O guy, he was a motivator. He does not elevate lesser talented players. Zeke and his team (to their credit in my humble opinion) was not going to let Garrett stick it in his gut on 1st and 2nd down...then throw it to him on 3rd down or ask him to block on 3rd down...for rookie money. Garrett wants to make the game a "tough man" contest. With the size, speed and athleticism of today's player....you will come on the short end every time with that approach. Our WRs never caught the ball in space with the ability to avoid physical confrontations (he did not like rub routes or pick routes)...the windows the QB had to throw the ball in are small....and he wanted an Emmit Smith of a RB. And for the record...Emmit Smith would not be Emmit Smith in todays NFL...he would take to much of a beating before he would get to 15k+ yards. And that goes for any other RB as well....THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.

I never understood all the reports of Jason Garrett being the first person in the building and the last to leave. Almost every team we played made it very clear that we were the easiest team to prepare for. So what in God's name was Jason burning the midnight oil doing?

Zeke is not who he was....but it's also because we beat him up. With the load we put on him...It was almost as if he was the only person on offense. And we did this in a MAN's league to a 21 year old kid! He is physically and mentally beat up. He will NEVER be who he was. I don't care how much weight he loses. The body only has so many hits in it. And again, please don't minimize the beating his body takes with blitz pick up.
Those days are over? Tell that to him...
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What's weird about that? You can root for the team while also acknowledging that they have made bad decisions.

I wouldn't even say Zeke is a "bad decision" at this point, but his contract doesn't look great for what he provides.
This is what I don’t get though. So if Zeke would’ve got 25 carries last game he probably has what? 130 yards at least? A solid game. Instead, they split the carries and our concern is Zekes stats because of what we pay? Never mind that we pay Pollard peanuts. It just makes no sense to me. The objective is wins not fantasy stats.
 

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I like how Garrett is getting scapegoated for Zeke’s contract…Jerry was signing him regardless lol. No way he was tearing up Zeke and Dak.
 

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Guessing it doesn't make many feel better but it's true. I think the holdout had a bigger impact than saving Jason's job. It caught them totally off guard, they simply didn't see it coming. They only had two options......pay him or call his bluff ( seeing if he wait until Oct to report ).



Jerry has been in this business too long for this to have taken him off guard. Good players generally want an extension after their 3rd season. This is what Jerry does. He sees it all the time. I just think Jerry thought his team had a shot going into to 2019. He didn't want another Emmitt Smith problem going into the new year.
 

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This is what I don’t get though. So if Zeke would’ve got 25 carries last game he probably has what? 130 yards at least? A solid game. Instead, they split the carries and our concern is Zekes stats because of what we pay? Never mind that we pay Pollard peanuts. It just makes no sense to me. The objective is wins not fantasy stats.
yes brother exactly right! :hammer::cool:
 

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At the end of the day....if you want Jason Garrett to be successful, you have to supply him with the most talent. He was not an X and O guy, he was a motivator. He does not elevate lesser talented players. Zeke and his team (to their credit in my humble opinion) was not going to let Garrett stick it in his gut on 1st and 2nd down...then throw it to him on 3rd down or ask him to block on 3rd down...for rookie money. Garrett wants to make the game a "tough man" contest. With the size, speed and athleticism of today's player....you will come on the short end every time with that approach. Our WRs never caught the ball in space with the ability to avoid physical confrontations (he did not like rub routes or pick routes)...the windows the QB had to throw the ball in are small....and he wanted an Emmit Smith of a RB. And for the record...Emmit Smith would not be Emmit Smith in todays NFL...he would take to much of a beating before he would get to 15k+ yards. And that goes for any other RB as well....THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.

I never understood all the reports of Jason Garrett being the first person in the building and the last to leave. Almost every team we played made it very clear that we were the easiest team to prepare for. So what in God's name was Jason burning the midnight oil doing?

Zeke is not who he was....but it's also because we beat him up. With the load we put on him...It was almost as if he was the only person on offense. And we did this in a MAN's league to a 21 year old kid! He is physically and mentally beat up. He will NEVER be who he was. I don't care how much weight he loses. The body only has so many hits in it. And again, please don't minimize the beating his body takes with blitz pick up.
Did I read about Garrett...."he was a motivator."? I never saw that, team came out flat too many times under his watch. I don't think the claps or field trips helped.
 

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Did I read about Garrett...."he was a motivator."? I never saw that, team came out flat too many times under his watch. I don't think the claps or field trips helped.
I didn't say he was the best motivator. But his teams played hard for him. He was much more "motivator" than he was "tactician".
 
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