CFZ We're better than Kansas City and Philly

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It’s been many years since I’ve gone into a season with high expectations. We simply don’t match up well against the 49ers. Their style of play has been a real problem for us. I’m sure they’re feeling very confident heading into this game with the success they’ve had against us. The Cowboys haven’t won a game this season where they didn’t have either multiple takeaways or some defensive scores. In the games they’ve won everything has gone their way. In the game they lost no takeaways or defensive scores. It’s not going out on a limb to say we’re going to need some breaks on Sunday night against San Francisco. We’ve reached the part of the schedule we’re going to start finding out what kind of team the Cowboys really have. If we don’t beat San Francisco on Sunday night, I don’t believe we’ll beat them in the playoffs if we face them. We need to build some confidence against them or they’re going to continue getting the better of us.
All those years wasted by Garrett beat down my expectations (along with all the other years we've gone without making an NFC Championship Game).

I don't know if what happens Sunday night will have any bearing on playoff success. There have been years where we succeeded in the regular season against a team (even twice) and then lost to them in the playoffs. So many variables are unknown, such as injuries, who will be playing well when the playoffs roll around and who will have slipped, etc.

I go into Sunday knowing there's a chance, but certainly not believing we're going to win. Because if we lose and I have my expectations too high, it crushes me. I got tired of being crushed around 2014. Now, I hope for the best and expect the worst.

The point of this thread, though, wasn't my expectations, but just the fact that no one should say there's no chance.
 

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Fortunately, I think everyone but us is better than Arizona, so we thankfully won't have to play them again. We've got everyone
Well if everyone is better than Arizona....andbArizon is better than us....that means we're the WORST team in the league?
 

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All those years wasted by Garrett beat down my expectations (along with all the other years we've gone without making an NFC Championship Game).

I don't know if what happens Sunday night will have any bearing on playoff success. There have been years where we succeeded in the regular season against a team (even twice) and then lost to them in the playoffs. So many variables are unknown, such as injuries, who will be playing well when the playoffs roll around and who will have slipped, etc.

I go into Sunday knowing there's a chance, but certainly not believing we're going to win. Because if we lose and I have my expectations too high, it crushes me. I got tired of being crushed around 2014. Now, I hope for the best and expect the worst.

The point of this thread, though, wasn't my expectations, but just the fact that no one should say there's no chance.
My expectations fizzled out long before Garrett got there. The loss in the playoffs to the Giants in 2007 is when I started tempering my expectations. I go into every Sunday knowing we have a chance. Even the most negative fans know the Cowboys have a chance every week.
 

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Well if everyone is better than Arizona....andbArizon is better than us....that means we're the WORST team in the league?
Your logic isn't following the pattern. Arizona is only better than us. We're better than Philly because we beat a common opponent worse. We're better than KC because we beat a common opponent worse. San Fran is better than us because they beat Arizona, which is better than us, but the 49ers are also worse than us because we beat a common opponent by more.

So we're clearly the BEST team in the league ... unless we have to play the Cardinals.

(Of course, I guess Arizona would have to be better than the teams we beat since Arizona beat us ... but don't destroy the logic, man!)
 
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My expectations fizzled out long before Garrett got there. The loss in the playoffs to the Giants in 2007 is when I started tempering my expectations. I go into every Sunday knowing we have a chance. Even the most negative fans know the Cowboys have a chance every week.
I liked what I saw of Romo, but he was still a growing QB at that time (2007). I thought if we built on what we had that we had a chance. Although Romo had some really good years while he was here, he played at an MVP level in 2014. When we failed that year anyway, it just killed my expectations for this team going forward. Never my hope, though.
 

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Your logic isn't following the pattern. Arizona is only better than us. We're better than Philly because we beat a common opponent worse. We're better than KC because we beat a common opponent worse. San Fran is better than us because they beat Arizona, which is better than us, but the 49ers are also worse than us because we beat a common opponent by more.

So we're clearly the BEST team in the league ... unless we have to play the Cardinals.
I think you are misinterpreting the data.

I think it's obvious....that nobody is better than anyone this year. I think it's likely this might be on of those rare years where no teams makes the Playoffs.
 

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No one is saying that we will beat them. They beat us the last two times we played them, so until we show it, we shouldn't assume victory. I just think those who are saying we have no shot are going overboard. We've got three blowout victories and one illogical loss. San Fran has been solid in all four games. It should be a good game unless we look like we did against the Cardinals.
Bottom feeding for 3 out of 4 weeks. San Fran will take Dallas to pound town.
 

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I'm just trying to make sure I follow the logic rules of those who say we have no chance against San Francisco next week. I assume that's partly based on the fact that the 49ers beat Arizona 35-16 this week while we lost to Arizona 28-16 last week.

By that logic since Kansas City barely beat the Jets (23-20) this week and we drubbed New York 30-10, then we have to be a couple of touchdowns better than the defending Super Bowl champs. And since we clubbed New England 38-3 and the Eagles squeaked by the Patriots 25-20, Philly should be afeared to even get on the field with us.

We actually also have one-up on the 49ers with our 40-0 victory over the Giants because San Fran only beat them 30-12.

Now again, this is not my take on things. I'm an any given Sunday guy, but if we have no chance against the 49ers because of what they did Sunday to Arizona, this season is looking pretty bright for us in the division and even in the Super Bowl, if we face the Chiefs. Of course, we'll need someone to knock off San Fran for us to get there.
Right now we arr better then everyone not named the Cardinals
 

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I think you are misinterpreting the data.

I think it's obvious....that nobody is better than anyone this year. I think it's likely this might be on of those rare years where no teams makes the Playoffs.
Does that mean we automatically win the Super Bowl? Because I'm ready.
 

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Homers on CZ have confused stupidity and ignorance with logic for years, so this thread is nothing new
I'm not sure it's the homers. They think we should absolutely win. It's the factions at either extreme who usually speak loudest and with the least amount of logic.
 

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jerry said buy your gear early so you too can look like you play for the team. Nothing like running around in your backyard pretending to be Parson, or some other guy.
Hurry while supplies last, and we still have some taco jerseys and will grier....
 

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....IMO, from only what I've seen. I feel Dallas has better defense. SF has better offense.

Winner will come from who is coached better. I like our chances.

Yeah stopping CMC and those pass catchers is a tall task. I'm more concerned about their offense than their defense.
 

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I found a power ranking today that had us AHEAD of philly!!
 

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We definitely have a chance against San Francisco, but we’re not better than KC or Philly until we prove it. Those two teams have proven they can win knuckle busters this season. We got into a knuckle buster against an average team that’s lost three games this season, and they dominated us. The only games we’ve won have been in blowouts. We have to prove we can come from behind and withstand a real challenge that comes down to the fourth quarter.
I'd like Dallas' odds to beat KC a lot more than I would either of the NFC teams.

KC has hamstrung themselves by not investing resources at WR, and it's bitten them three times now in the first month of the season.
 

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It was supposed to be. I was merely trying to emphasize that it's silly to say Dallas has no chance against the 49ers next week.
I got ya, yes I agree many haters saying Dallas will get rolled over. I don’t think the 49ers are gonna steamroll us. Definitely going to need to score at will when we have the ball though.
 
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