We're going to have to cut a quality d-linemen

[BlindFaith]

I wouldn't call Mincey with 6 sacks last year a JAG. But if you feel better about yourself saying so, then go ahead.

It has nothing to do with feeling better about myself. The Cowboys obviously feel better about themselves since they acquired Lawrence, Hardy, Gregory, Russell to replace the legend.

 

[LittleD]

I'm not going to blast into Mincey. I'm sure everyone on this board knows how I feel about him. I just didn't see it from him. Stats back that up. But continue to sing his praise.

Being the best pass rusher on the worst pass rushing defense isn't a sign of being darn good. It means being better than guys who are no longer on the team. He is George Selvie. Selvie actually put up better numbers in his "breakout" year.

No arguments from me but Hardy will be gone for the first 4 games and they are not going to put a rookie over there to handle
the run full time. Nope, not the Cowboy way of things. Mincey will be here this year for sure.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I think the defense as a whole should be exciting. We won't be top 5 but I think we'll be top 10. If key players can stay healthy, each unit is strong. I really hope Lee can stay healthy this year because he's truly a superstar. We have play makers at all three levels. We're not relying on young guys to step up as much as we have in the past.

 

[gimmesix]

Hardy*

1. Lawrence
2. Mincey
3. Gregory
4. Russell
5. Gardner
6. Edwards
7. Crawford
8. Crawford
9. Hayden
10. Bishop
11. Coleman
12. McClain

With Hardy, you probably have to cut 3 at least.

I guess it depends on what you mean by quality. If you mean capable of making an NFL roster, then yes, we will. If you mean good enough to start or be a major contributor, then I'm not sure.

Our 1990s teams had some exceptional defensive depth, I don't believe the players we'll cut will be on that level. They'll find other teams, but I don't know if they'll ever excel.

In other words, I see more Nick Haydens in that group than Tyrone Crawfords.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

WDE - Hardy/Gregory
3DT - Crawford/Crawford
1DT - Hayden/Bishop
SDE - Lawrence/Mincey/Russell

 

[windjc]

It has nothing to do with feeling better about myself. The Cowboys obviously feel better about themselves since they acquired Lawrence, Hardy, Gregory, Russell to replace the legend.

Please tell me about these stats where leading the team in sacks as an interior lineman was a mediocre thing that should have him replaced by Lavar that has never had a sack.

Please share the stats where Selvie our performed Mincey.

I'm all ears. I didn't realize that Mincey was so terrible. So please bring some facts and drop that knowledge on me.

 

[BlindFaith]

No arguments from me but Hardy will be gone for the first 4 games and they are not going to put a rookie over there to handle
the run full time. Nope, not the Cowboy way of things. Mincey will be here this year for sure.

That seems to be the general thought. I wouldn't do it that way. Gregory will see all the passing downs while Hardy is out. I wouldn't be terribly upset using J Crawford at RDE on run downs until Hardy comes back.

Mincey will probably make the team though. Unless you think that Edwards or Gardner give you more long term upside. I think they do, but the 'Boys will probably roll with a known vs potential. They also like Hayden so I'm not going to pretend to understand why they do what they do.

 

[Jstopper]

Outside of T Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory and Hardy and possibly J Crawford - who is this quality that you speak of?

Russell has potential so he won't be going anywhere, but he's not exactly quality at this point.

Bishop and Coleman were both released last year, put on the practice squad and then signed back. No one was too interested in them last year. Have they improved to the point that they would now make another teams roster? I doubt it.

McClain is always hurt and basically a JAG even when healthy. Doubt very much any other team would be interested.

Edwards and Gardner are interesting. Edwards has been showing some potential. Gardner's best shot, as I said earlier this year, would be to try and bulk up and play 3T.

Hayden and Mincey are JAGS. I'd doubt that either would be signed by anybody if cut. I'd actually keep Edwards over Mincey. Mincey will not be back next year. Edwards has more upside. Heck, I'd probably keep Gardner over Mincey.

I'd be keeping an eye out for a 1T that gets cut from ANOTHER team before I'd be worried about loosing our DT "talent" that might get cut.

I agree with most of your analysis but you're way off on that Mincey being a JAG stuff. Not sure where in the world you're getting that from

 

[BlindFaith]

Please tell me about these stats where leading the team in sacks as an interior lineman was a mediocre thing that should have him replaced by Lavar that has never had a sack.

Please share the stats where Selvie our performed Mincey.

I'm all ears. I didn't realize that Mincey was so terrible. So please bring some facts and drop that knowledge on me.

Go find the knowledge I've dropped all year. I'm not your personal assistant.

 

[BigStar]

Outside of T Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory and Hardy and possibly J Crawford - who is this quality that you speak of?

Russell has potential so he won't be going anywhere, but he's not exactly quality at this point.

Bishop and Coleman were both released last year, put on the practice squad and then signed back. No one was too interested in them last year. Have they improved to the point that they would now make another teams roster? I doubt it.

McClain is always hurt and basically a JAG even when healthy. Doubt very much any other team would be interested.

Edwards and Gardner are interesting. Edwards has been showing some potential. Gardner's best shot, as I said earlier this year, would be to try and bulk up and play 3T.

Hayden and Mincey are JAGS. I'd doubt that either would be signed by anybody if cut. I'd actually keep Edwards over Mincey. Mincey will not be back next year. Edwards has more upside. Heck, I'd probably keep Gardner over Mincey.

I'd be keeping an eye out for a 1T that gets cut from ANOTHER team before I'd be worried about loosing our DT "talent" that might get cut.

I would cut Jack Craw before Bishop or Coleman. Hayden is staying regardless of play for whatever reason. Edwards and Gardner haven't shown enough. Mincey will stay bc of the restructure bf camp. I almost forgot McClain was still on the team but he's been mostly a no show.

 

[conner01]

I think we will cut a guy or two who can play in this league
That's not really a bad thing I guess
But I expect we go long on the dline and carry 10 if not 11

 

[windjc]

Go find the knowledge I've dropped all year. I'm not your personal assistant.

I looked at your post history and saw nothing. You look like a hater to me.

I've been to practice and seen these guys. I think your dead wrong about Mincey and others in here apparently agree. But if actually have facts you should share them. If you don't just man up for the fact that you hate for hates sake.

 

[BlindFaith]

I agree with most of your analysis but you're way off on that Mincey being a JAG stuff. Not sure where in the world you're getting that from

Provide his highlight video. Ooops, there isn't one. What makes you think he's not a JAG? Look at his stats. Tackles, impact plays, stuffs, tackles for loss.

He was NEVER double teamed. And not all sacks are equal. Getting a sack after the QB has been in the pocket 7 seconds isn't a quality sack. How many sacks did he get where you said, "wow, that was impressive"? More like, there's Mincey around the pile. Or there's Mincey having the QB run into him and he get's a "sack".

Look at him in the preseason game. Mincey getting washed 5 yards down the line on the first TD.

 

[BlindFaith]

I would cut Jack Craw before Bishop or Coleman. Hayden is staying regardless of play for whatever reason. Edwards and Gardner haven't shown enough. Mincey will stay bc of the restructure bf camp. I almost forgot McClain was still on the team but he's been mostly a no show.

J Crawford is currently our backup 3T. Not Bishop or Coleman or anyone else for that matter.

 

[texbumthelife]

Most of these guys are the same guys that contributed to our atrocious pass rush last season, yet now they're all quality? That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[BlindFaith]

I looked at your post history and saw nothing. You look like a hater to me.

I've been to practice and seen these guys. I think your dead wrong about Mincey and others in here apparently agree. But if actually have facts you should share them. If you don't just man up for the fact that you hate for hates sake.

I hate Mincey. Yes. I've been a fan of the Cowboys for over 35 years. I'm also a realist. I quit being a homer years ago.

 

[BigStar]

J Crawford is currently our backup 3T. Not Bishop or Coleman or anyone else for that matter.

Huh. Did not know that. I thought Coleman was working both (1 and 3). Thanks for info!

 

[BlindFaith]

I thought Coleman was working both (1 and 3). Thanks for info!

You thought right. He's just doing it with the third string.

 

[jazzcat22]

This is a good problem to have. Though some of it is based on potential.
Mincey stays, he is not that overused stupid term JAG.
He came on last year and showed why he was signed once he got completely healthy.

I still don't get all the Hayden stuff, but the team likes him, and that's good enough for me. As he shows up and plays, does is what is asked of him. He takes up blockers so others can do their jobs. But yet he does not get the sacks because he is not supposed to. But fans see that as a bad sign.

Edwards has been having a good camp he can push for a roster spot. What helps with all of these DL, there are quite a few with the versatility to play inside or outside. So I think Edwards can push T. McClain off the roster if he doesn't show something very soon.

Coleman and Bishop and Gardner fighting for 2 of 3 spots, all 3 could make it, but more like 2 of the 3.

I think they go long at DL so chances all of these guys could be here until Hardy returns. Then one or most likely 2 are gone. Depending on how many DBs and OL they keep I can see 11 DL easily kept the 1st 4 games.

 

[windjc]

I hate Mincey. Yes. I've been a fan of the Cowboys for over 35 years. I'm also a realist. I quit being a homer years ago.

Like it or not Mincey is one of our top 5-6 defensive lineman. Thus it would be stupid to cut him. Too bad you let your personal feelings get in the way of logic.