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It is, I agree. But in looking at the league, there are very few teams that would consider themselves that one player - especially a quarterback - away from being a contender.

Denver comes to mind, but then I'm not sure they have the cap room to do it. Maybe if they cut Ware?

I'm not saying there are 31 other teams vying for his services. But Denver is literally a Romo away from being the super bowl favorite by a long shot. If you were Denver, would you want to go from AFC championship loser to super bowl champion? I know I would.
 

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your opinion but it is way off

CLE just won in NBA and MLB...they have a taste for it and would love a QB like Romo......trading for him is the only way to get him..... franchise QBs, even with warts, are gold in the NFL......they instantly re-build a team into a playoff team

Cleveland brought in an analytics team. They've been quite open about how they are in total rebuilding mold, trying to grab as many top picks as they can. They said the reason they didn't take Wentz is they didn't think he was a top pick and thought there was more value in grabbing multiple picks to rebuild. They've been pretty clear they are taking the long view here and are not into quick band aids.

So no, Romo makes no sense to them at all. He's got what, 2 more really good years left at best? He makes no sense for the Browns. They aren't a playoff team with him.
 

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I'm not saying there are 31 other teams vying for his services. But Denver is literally a Romo away from being the super bowl favorite by a long shot. If you were Denver, would you want to go from AFC championship loser to super bowl champion? I know I would.

Denver won the SB with a junk QB. So I wouldn't assume they'd be willing to part with multiple #1 picks for Romo. They balked at sending just one #1 pick to Philly for Bradford.
 

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Yeah. If you can't buy another truck because they aren't selling them anymore, then your 12 year old truck is worth a **** load more than you think it is. Or think of it this way, if YOU are trying to buy a truck, but no one will sell you one and YOU have to have one, you are likely overpay for that 12 year old truck. See how that works? Suppy and demand. Economics 1113 my friend.

You might overpay a bit........... but let's not act like you'd pay $50K for a truck that's worth only like $10K, even if there aren't many of them around. At that point, you look for other options.

Some of you are overplaying this whole notion that Romo would be in such demand that teams would literally drop their pants and throw multiple valuable picks at the Cowboys.
 

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There are a couple of issues here:

1) Romo doesn't make Cleveland very competitive. They have way too many holes that are going to take a couple of offseasons to fix before they could be considered competitive. So that's one big reason they would have no interest in Romo.

2) Romo's cap number would be $14MM next year based on his current deal. If the Browns take Watson or Kizer with their first pick next year, his cap number will be around $5-6MM. So for at least the few years Romo would play, no his cap number is not as favorable as if they took their next franchise QB in the draft.

3) Three, they've brought in baseball people to bring analytics into football. They've been about accumulating as many high picks as they can get. They aren't about to turn around and trade a high first round pick for an aging QB coming off two injury plagued years.

The Browns simply aren't in the position where taking Romo on would make sense.

In the end, this really isn't my overarching point. I think there is definitely a chance Romo could be traded. I do believe someone out there might take a chance on him. Where my issue comes in is the belief that he's uber valuable to the point where he's worth multiple first round picks and how there will be so many teams after him. I don't believe there is any chance in hell that's the case given his age and injury history.

So he might get moved but the compensation isn't going to be as high as you think. I'll put it another way. I like Romo but if someone came to the Cowboys and offered say a 2nd round pick for him and then maybe a conditional pick that could turn into another 2nd rounder.......... I'd think long and hard about taking that deal.

I believe the compensation would be higher than that or we would not move Romo at all, so that also factors in. But the rest of your post is a realistic way of looking at the issue.
 

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Cleveland brought in an analytics team. They've been quite open about how they are in total rebuilding mold, trying to grab as many top picks as they can. They said the reason they didn't take Wentz is they didn't think he was a top pick and thought there was more value in grabbing multiple picks to rebuild. They've been pretty clear they are taking the long view here and are not into quick band aids.

So no, Romo makes no sense to them at all. He's got what, 2 more really good years left at best? He makes no sense for the Browns. They aren't a playoff team with him.
Tony would be a great QB for CLE long view or not......they still have to sell tickets and TV/Radio ads

A QB like Romo instantly makes any team a playoff team because there is so much parity in the NFL

They have Crowell. Pryor, Coleman, Barnridge, Duke Johnson and JThomas

And they are just one example....there are plenty others

Any way you look at it, Tony Romo is way too good to be a back-up QB in this league
 

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all teams are one franchise QB away from being playoff teams or contenders...it is the single most important position in sports

I agree that it's the single most important position, but I don't agree with any assumption that Romo would make some of these teams playoff contenders.

Many of the teams with cap room are going for the slow, methodical build and not the quick fix a Romo acquisition would be.

Like the Browns for example. People keep mentioning them when there's zero chance they'd have interest based upon the moves they have and have not made.
 

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I'm not saying there are 31 other teams vying for his services. But Denver is literally a Romo away from being the super bowl favorite by a long shot. If you were Denver, would you want to go from AFC championship loser to super bowl champion? I know I would.

From that lone perspective? Sure, they make a ton of sense. But you then have to look into the feasibility of making it happen. Given their current cap situation, can they afford Romo's contract? What do they then do about Paxton Lynch? Is Romo a one-year quick fix for another shot? If Siemien shows enough, do they even consider it next year?

A lot more variables to consider.
 

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Yeah. If you can't buy another truck because they aren't selling them anymore, then your 12 year old truck is worth a **** load more than you think it is. Or think of it this way, if YOU are trying to buy a truck, but no one will sell you one and YOU have to have one, you are likely overpay for that 12 year old truck. See how that works? Suppy and demand. Economics 1113 my friend.
If you get a contract and can make 200k over the next 2 years if you had a big truck you might buy that older truck for 50k knowing it will last for those 2 years instead of investing in a brand new truck that you will paying for 5 years

I like this game
 

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From that lone perspective? Sure, they make a ton of sense. But you then have to look into the feasibility of making it happen. Given their current cap situation, can they afford Romo's contract? What do they then do about Paxton Lynch? Is Romo a one-year quick fix for another shot? If Siemien shows enough, do they even consider it next year?

A lot more variables to consider.
Denver is the place. Lynch can sit and Siemien is currently their plan as a stop gap. Romo is a much better stop gap.
 

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It is, I agree. But in looking at the league, there are very few teams that would consider themselves that one player - especially a quarterback - away from being a contender.

Denver comes to mind, but then I'm not sure they have the cap room to do it. Maybe if they cut Ware?


Restructuring is also a possibility. It mortgages the future, but their future is now anyway.
 

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You overestimate the number of teams that would have interest in a QB that hasn't played only a handful of games in two seasons.

Further, just because there would be a bidding war, doesn't mean that's going to result in multiple first round picks or multiple high picks being the compensation. I think if you got one #1 pick and then later round picks, you'd be doing exceptionally well. If someone gave you the Vikings deal they gave up for Bradford, you should think long and hard about taking it.


Romo is a better QB than Bradford. He might be considered more brittle, so that is a consideration. But based on pure ability, the compensation would be higher for Romo than it was for Bradford.
 

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Denver is the place. Lynch can sit and Siemien is currently their plan as a stop gap. Romo is a much better stop gap.

I'm looking at Chicago, based on what kind of a team they feel they have and how soon they think they can contend.

They'll save money moving in from Cutler, and look to have the need and the cap room. They have a good offensive line, several good receivers and TE, and a good looking young running back. Add Romo, and that offense might be something.
 

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Denver won the SB with a junk QB. So I wouldn't assume they'd be willing to part with multiple #1 picks for Romo. They balked at sending just one #1 pick to Philly for Bradford.


They will likely not get by the Patriots this year unless they make a move. We had a similar situation when we went out and got the problem child Haley to help us beat the 49ers.
 

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Restructuring is also a possibility. It mortgages the future, but their future is now anyway.

Again, their situation next year depends very much on what the young quarterbacks show this year. They may not even be in the market next season.
 

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I'm looking at Chicago, based on what kind of a team they feel they have and how soon they think they can contend.

They'll save money moving in from Cutler, and look to have the need and the cap room. They have a good offensive line, several good receivers and TE, and a good looking young running back. Add Romo, and that offense might be something.


Yes, even though they would probably not make the playoffs this year even with Romo, the team becomes a lot more attractive to free agents and could be a contender next year with Romo.
 

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Again, their situation next year depends very much on what the young quarterbacks show this year. They may not even be in the market next season.


True. I thought that the Vikings look at Bradford's compensation differently than other teams. They agreed to pay two picks for him, but nothing says they can't trade him or Teddy and get part of that back when Bridgewater gets back.
 

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Again, their situation next year depends very much on what the young quarterbacks show this year. They may not even be in the market next season.


That is true. Lynch is currently looking like a long term project right now though.
 

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Yeah. If you can't buy another truck because they aren't selling them anymore, then your 12 year old truck is worth a **** load more than you think it is. Or think of it this way, if YOU are trying to buy a truck, but no one will sell you one and YOU have to have one, you are likely overpay for that 12 year old truck. See how that works? Suppy and demand. Economics 1113 my friend.


Yes availability of a resource does impact value. But what impacts price far more is perceived usefulness and cost.

Here is what any buyer asks:
How long can I use the resource? What can it do? How reliably will it function? What is the total cost of ownership?

There will be huge skepticism that Model T-R can function as well now as when the model "only" had 100,000 miles on it. It's well known: The TR Transmission could blow at any time.

And the cost of ownership is high even were the Cowboys to trade Tony for a 6th rounder...because his salary will be hard for teams to absorb in the salary-cap landscape.

One more thing: there is no football equivalent to collector model cars and trucks.

Yes a trade could theoretically happen. But even for a late round draft pick...Jerry will be hard pressed to find buyers because of the age, condition of the model and the existing note to the bank coming along with the asset.
 
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