What about Steve Sarkisian

[stiletto]

As soon as NIL got implemented and paying players was legal, you heard a big cheer from the UT campus, LOL!

Texas has deep pockets, DEEP pockets. When you got alumni like Matthew McConaughey literally on the sideline every game, you ain’t got to worry about your NIL war chest being empty.

Their houses are burning down right now...literally.

 

[coult44]

Nobody outside of Austin cares about, or knows anything about Texas and Sark. I’m more than a casual college football fan. I’m an LSU fan though and only really care about them. I’m almost a degenerate and will pay attention to games I’m betting on.

With all that being said. I don’t know much about him. I don’t know the type of system he runs. I don’t know how good he is, or if his guys like him or not. If it wasn’t for the last couple of weeks, I probably wouldn’t know what he looks like. And because of all that I can say The DC job is too big for him.

 

[_sturt_]

Remind me again why he would leave UT.

Because college football is dying before our very eyes. The romance of that developmental football sector lies in loyalty to an alma mater, and it's now very quickly evolved into mercenary football. The "student" athlete has become a misnomer. It's going to change a little in the next year because the court decisions that will frame the game formerly known as "college football" will be coming, and it's widely suspected that there will be no alternative but to make every revenue sport athlete a legal employee of the schools they represent, with no requirement to actually be enrolled at the school (scholarship becoming a fringe benefit option), and signed to a contract according to guidelines brokered by a collective bargaining agreement. That's right. Your third string free safety will be carrying a union card just like the first string quarterback.

Granted, it takes a minute for the casual fan to understand what the hell is going on, so it will be a process of erosion in overall developmental interest, not all at once. But that's started. It's happening right now. And it will be mitigated for UT, and the very highest upper crust programs who've never been that worried about NIL or portal or any of that in the first place... their main roster drain mainly being attributed to the pro leagues absorbing the best players eligible to be drafted. But for Boise State? For Ole Miss? For Florida State? For Michigan State? For USC? As you get past those programs in the list of FBS schools that are expected practically every year to be within some reach of the top 5, ie the top 15-ish programs... they're going to be impacted. This is going to be out-and-out minor league baseball, just with the wrapping of school colors and logos. It's going to be popular, but never again like it has been. The romance is being sucked out of the sector in front of our very eyes, as fewer and fewer show up to cheer for the temporary unionized employees on services contracts. I cared when the players on the field shared with me a loyalty to my... nay, our school... where I graduated, and where they intended to graduate and often did. That's going away in real time.

And with the advent of a larger playoff system, already we see interest in the bowl game system hitting a wall... and why not? Why do athletes whose highest ambition is to get into an NFL training camp and get their chance want to play in meaningless games that only subject them to possible career-altering injury? In turn, why do fans care that a mix of primarily 2nd and 3rd string temp/mercenary players for Georgia Tech are playing against some similar composition of players from Vandy in Birmingham on a cold winter night?

Circling back, you're right though, that's still no reason to leave UT necessarily. It's like, why would anyone not want to editor in chief of the Dallas Morning News...or Houston Chronicle... or Atlanta Constitution-Journal... sure, the newspaper industry has had significant upheaval, but for the upper crust, they're going to survive and stick around.

I guess what I'm suggesting is that as college football morphs into something more like minor league baseball, maybe the allure of being top dog in that domain isn't nearly as interesting and appealing as interest appreciably wanes overall. Maybe the way you make a name for yourself is decreasingly about being top dog in that domain. Maybe the way you make a name for yourself is increasingly about competing in the big league... any franchise, but especially the one in Dallas.

 

[tomokawan]

Longhorns have done less with more than any college program in sports. Get all the top recruits and sucked for 10 years. Now they can openly pay players with unlimited resources, and finally are not a joke. Texas should have many college football titles by now. Sark is overrated just like the Longhorns always are. It would be laughable hiring him as our head coach.

 

[zbeaster]

If we can't keep Mike McCarthy, what about Steve Sarkisian? He's done well with Texas. He seems to have built a great culture at Texas. He was the OC with the Falcons from 2017-2019, so, he's got NFL coaching experience. Perhaps we could have something there? Plus, he's not a HC retread

Definitely an interesting idea but it's hard to see him leaving Texas. I also feel that he may be a guy more well-suited to run a college program than an NFL team.

 

[_sturt_]

Just speculation from other uninformed talkers just like any of us. But still. That it makes some sense to them, too, is a little compelling. Not a lot. But a little.



Building on top of it all a bit... and forgive me if someone already said this, and I was just too lazy to read...

If Nick Saban was something under the age of 70, I'm one who feels super confident that the head coaching position in Dallas would already have been filled, while the talk in Chicago would be whether McCarthy should be prioritized ahead of the Lions OC.

And/but if Saban (73) isn't a plausible option because of age, then if you're the Joneses (and I keep saying "Joneses" b/c I'm persuaded Stephen should be regarded as legitimately constituting 51% or more of the "hiring committee" braintrust at this point) you've got to look at what options are possible from the Saban coaching tree.

 

[blueblood70]

I guess what I'm suggesting is that as college football morphs into something more like minor league baseball, maybe the allure of being top dog in that domain isn't nearly as interesting and appealing as interest appreciably wanes overall. Maybe the way you make a name for yourself is decreasingly about being top dog in that domain. Maybe the way you make a name for yourself is increasingly about competing in the big league... any franchise, but especially the one in Dallas.

This is true but I don't think it's now I think it's two years from now maybe 3 then you'll be able to to get Sarkeesian away from college football at least for one shot at it but I believe ,because I'm a Longhorn fan, you can tell he's on a mission...

his mission was to move Texas into the SEC, he did that, he wanted to prove to the SEC that they belong ,up to this point so far first year he was competitive but he lost to Georgia twice, he wants to at least go through the entire cycle of the SEC where he competes against all of them, he wins an SEC title ,and he does it by putting manning on the map and getting manning probably being the number one overall pick in the draft 2 years from now...

I think once he achieves those goals or gets fired lol he will then listen to offers in the NFL....

 

[_sturt_]

This is true but I don't think it's now I think it's two years from now maybe 3 then you'll be able to to get Sarkeesian away from college football at least for one shot at it but I believe ,because I'm a Longhorn fan, you can tell he's on a mission...

his mission was to move Texas into the SEC, he did that, he wanted to prove to the SEC that they belong ,up to this point so far first year he was competitive but he lost to Georgia twice, he wants to at least go through the entire cycle of the SEC where he competes against all of them, he wins an SEC title ,and he does it by putting manning on the map and getting manning probably being the number one overall pick in the draft 2 years from now...

I think once he achieves those goals or gets fired lol he will then listen to offers in the NFL....

We're not that far apart even if it seems at first we are...

I contend that head coaches knew in 2022 what 2024 was going to look like, or had a pretty good idea.

I contend that head coaches in 2025 are making decisions based on what they perceive the ecology will look like in 2027.

Thus, I have little doubt that Sarkisian would be highly, highly intrigued if he got a call to come visit the Joneses for a conversation. Will stop short of saying he'd automatically jump at any contract put in front of him because I don't think he would. It would require some time and internal argument, I'll grant that much. But he's going to listen, you'd have to grant that much (no?).

 

[blueblood70]

We're not that far apart even if it seems at first we are...

I contend that head coaches knew in 2022 what 2024 was going to look like, or had a pretty good idea.

I contend that head coaches in 2025 are making decisions based on what they perceive the ecology will look like in 2027.

Thus, I have little doubt that Sarkisian would be highly, highly intrigued if he got a call to come visit the Joneses for a conversation. Will stop short of saying he'd automatically jump at any contract put in front of him because I don't think he would. It would require some time and internal argument, I'll grant that much. But he's going to listen, you'd have to grant that much (no?).

We can only dream that the same conversation and energy being put into Deion Sanders and his players his quarterback son going to the same NFL team can be used for Sarkeesian and manning being a package deal...

imagine if they both are here in a couple of years, Oh yeah, we're dreaming but......