What Are The Chances That Extension Talks With Dak Go Bad?

[Swagger]

Prescott is in the 11-16 range with the likes of Cousins, Carr and Jones. I.e., in the whatever you do, do not pay the man bracket otherwise you will be kneecapped until he has gone

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So it's hilarious for fans to realize Dak is going nowhere thereby that translates into the Cowboys going nowhere? I am glad you see a continued Super Bowl drought as hilarious so long as the Dak fan boys get their way.....as MC says: "Dak over Dallas" is your mantra.

Naw you thinking too deep into it. Dak will win us a SB. If the resident idiots don’t think so that’s in them. It’s hilarious they thought he was gonna get cut or traded lol.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Prescott is in the 11-16 range with the likes of Cousins, Carr and Jones. I.e., in the whatever you do, do not pay the man bracket otherwise you will be kneecapped until he has gone

Yeah god forbid we pay for a guy who had one of the best playoff performances of all time and has contributed to winning 25 games in two years. The horror!!!!

 

[Buzzbait]

That is true, but nobody forced the Cowboys to sign Dak or Zeke to new contracts, they could have let both of them walk in free agency if the team wanted to.

Dont blame the players because Jerry and the Cowboys caved, its not Dak or Zeke's job to distribute the pie, that is the job of the GM.

It's not just one side to blame, it's both sides. When a player holds out in Cabo for an outrageous amount of money, that gives the owners a choice, pay up and hurt his team with the resulting cap issues or let the player walk, so another team signs the talent and the original team goes without.
Like I said, the players do not get a pass on the greed while holding out for huge contracts, both sides are to blame.

 

[Buzzbait]

If they wanted to add some common sense to the equation they would establish a limit to the percentage of the cap that the QB position can control.

 

[acr731]

Yeah god forbid we pay for a guy who had one of the best playoff performances of all time and has contributed to winning 25 games in two years. The horror!!!!

Against an 8-9 team that shouldn't have even been in the playoffs. How did Dak do against real competition the following week?

 

[Buzzbait]

How about if he wants 50m a year?
Dak held this front office's feet to the fire last contract to extract every dime from Jerry that he could get.
Who's to say he wont do it again?

If he can, he will. He's already proved that.

 

[Buzzbait]

If push comes to shove the Cowboys will cave, making a decision that's better for Dak than it is from the team. They've done it before and they like their guys.

And Dak knows that.

 

[john van brocklin]

If he can, he will. He's already proved that.

Yikes!!!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Against an 8-9 team that shouldn't have even been in the playoffs. How did Dak do against real competition the following week?

It was a lot of teams that didn’t belong in the playoffs. They would’ve been 9-8 had they not rest their starters.

 

[ConstantReboot]

How about if he wants 50m a year?
Dak held this front office's feet to the fire last contract to extract every dime from Jerry that he could get.
Who's to say he wont do it again?

I blame Jerry and Stephen for waiting so long to get Dak's contract done. If they would have been more proactive in the beginning, they would have leverage in getting his contract done. Jerry & Stephen clown show is why we pay so much for our own players and not want to trade them or take in any FA. This causes our players to ask the highest amount given because they know that our FO won't trade them or sign FAs. I'm blaming our FO for such ineptness.

 

[USArmyVet]

Yeah god forbid we pay for a guy who had one of the best playoff performances of all time and has contributed to winning 25 games in two years. The horror!!!!

First off pointing to 1 game against a one-dimensional 8-9 TB team that barely made the playoffs while overlooking Dak's career and league-high INT's in spite of missing 5 games speaks volumes.

Secondly, you claiming Dak has contributed to winning 25 games the past 2 years (which of course you factor in the regular and post-season) is inaccurate given Dak has missed 6 games the past 2 years therefore the actual QB record breaks down as follows for the last 2 years: Dak 20-11(.645 win %) Rush 5-1 (.833 win %).

Lastly, you left out the last 3 years wherein Dak's record has been 22-13 (regular season and post-season) while missing 17 games.

So, you aren't paying a guy $40M AAV with a 2023 cap hit of $49.13M (currently ranking 2nd for all 2023 QB's) for 1 playoff game against a sub-par team but rather a QB that has compiled a 22-13 record (.629 win %) the last 3 years but also one that has missed 17 out of a possible 53 games (32.1% of games missed) and that led the league in INT's for 2022 in spite of missing 5 games.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

First off pointing to 1 game against a one-dimensional 8-9 TB team that barely made the playoffs while overlooking Dak's career and league-high INT's in spite of missing 5 games speaks volumes.

Secondly, you claiming Dak has contributed to winning 25 games the past 2 years (which of course you factor in the regular and post-season) is inaccurate given Dak has missed 6 games the past 2 years therefore the actual QB record breaks down as follows for the last 2 years: Dak 20-11(.645 win %) Rush 5-1 (.833 win %).

Lastly, you left out the last 3 years wherein Dak's record has been 22-13 (regular season and post-season) while missing 17 games.

So, you aren't paying a guy $40M AAV with a 2023 cap hit of $49.13M (currently ranking 2nd for all 2023 QB's) for 1 playoff game against a sub-par team but rather a QB that has compiled a 22-13 record (.629 win %) the last 3 years but also one that has missed 17 out of a possible 53 games (32.1% of games missed) and that led the league in INT's for 2022 in spite of missing 5 games.

I said he contributed to winning 25 games I never said he won the 25 games. And y’all keep trying to discredit Dak but how come nobody else has had a great performances against the 8-9 teams that have entered in the playoffs? Or the bad teams who shouldn’t have been in the playoffs? They had Brady and went toe to toe with him. Put some respect on his name.

I don’t remember any Dak haters being confident we would beat the Buccs on the road.

 

[USArmyVet]

I said he contributed to winning 25 games I never said he won the 25 games. And y’all keep trying to discredit Dak but how come nobody else has had a great performances against the 8-9 teams that have entered in the playoffs? Or the bad teams who shouldn’t have been in the playoffs? They had Brady and went toe to toe with him. Put some respect on his name.

I don’t remember any Dak haters being confident we would beat the Buccs on the road.

How does a player contribute to wins when they don't play in 6 of them? That is the point I was making. As for why other teams haven't had a great performance against a sub .500 playoff team, given there have been only a handful of instances it's a rather small sample size.

 

[john van brocklin]

I blame Jerry and Stephen for waiting so long to get Dak's contract done. If they would have been more proactive in the beginning, they would have leverage in getting his contract done. Jerry & Stephen clown show is why we pay so much for our own players and not want to trade them or take in any FA. This causes our players to ask the highest amount given because they know that our FO won't trade them or sign FAs. I'm blaming our FO for such ineptness.

Jerry means well, but the job of GM is over his head.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Extending Dak's contract is like renewing your premium membership at Gold's Gym even though you only go every January 1st. This will only extend the non-championship game streak further down the road because we know this guy is not the one who will ever lead Dallas to the top of the hill. More like Death Valley. Jerry was such an idiot. Time to bite the bullet and move on and seek his replacement.

 

[AbeBeta]

I think people understand pretty well how a restructure functions.

What they criticize is that you gave him a contract where you are essentially forced to do it.
This is not about the player, its right now about the results of the resturcture for the franchise we have to deal with.

Forced to do it?

Dak was not under contract and had played on the franchise tag. We chose to give him that deal.

Don't put this on Dak or any player. They have a short window to make money. Players would be stupid to not leverage that.

And the "results of the restructure?" Please. Having more cap room and pushing cap dollars into the future when they will be a smaller percentage of the total cap? Gee, that is horrible.

It sort of sounds like you actually don't understand how a restructure functions.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

How does a player contribute to wins when they don't play in 6 of them? That is the point I was making. As for why other teams haven't had a great performance against a sub .500 playoff team, given there have been only a handful of instances it's a rather small sample size.

Excuses…..Commanders just made it a few years ago….

 

[LovinItAll]

I know I sound like a broken record, but:

Offer Dak a 7-10 year deal at $40MM/yr. That would give us the space to put the right players around him every year (see 2016 Dak or ‘22 Purdy). If he wants max money, move off of him. Teams that let the QB eat up the cap don’t win titles, period. If Dak cares about winning, he’ll take the deal. If he doesn’t, let’s find someone who does.

No more tags, no more big contacts.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Then they don't do it and play the yr out, and subtract 24 mil from 50 and that's Dallas new cap space. It's not really hard to put peices together.

They should have Dak play out the year anyway.

Dak and Zeke have had parallel careers, having their best seasons as rookies. This year was probably the worst season for both. Certainly for Zeke.

Dak has a greater chance to rebound, but he only squeezed into a Pro Bowl once since his rookie season and really hasn't been the same since the injury. Signing an average QB to "the going rate" is the recipe for going nowhere in the NFL.

I wouldn't extend him now, no way, no how — got to see a better season than the last two to even think about it.